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wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor
i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood
from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor
My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be
a problem at all. What issues do you see? wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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i want the building to be on the ground, but it can't be both plumb and
level, if it's touching on uneven ground. i'm not concerned if there are humps on the floor inside the buidling after its' up, so long as it's structurally sound. does that make any sense? Toller wrote: My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. What issues do you see? wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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wrote in message ups.com... i want the building to be on the ground, but it can't be both plumb and level, if it's touching on uneven ground. You just set the posts and build down until you get to the ground. At least that is how my barn is built. As long as the posts are all plumb, the ground doesn't matter much. i'm not concerned if there are humps on the floor inside the buidling after its' up, so long as it's structurally sound. does that make any sense? Toller wrote: My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. What issues do you see? wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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You should check locally to see if there are any codes that you need to meet. You also should consider the possible issue of moisture damage and depending on your design, remember that building without a foundation, especially in areas that freeze, is not a good idea. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit I second and third that espically for such a large building!!! Moisture is a problem with my shed and it has a concrete floor. I cant imagine the rust with a dirt floor |
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The shed will not last long if there is wood contacting the ground
(termites). Then also if it is not well built, the first good wind to come along will blow it down. Building it so it will last a long time and withstand heavy winds seems contrary to building it on the cheap if you ask me. Anyway I suppose you can sink poles in the ground which all raise up to the same height, then build your roof. And basically nail boards around the sides (all level) going from the top down. Just nail more boards on the side(s) where the ground is lower. Cut the last bottom boards so they have an angle to match the ground. Make door with a bottom angle to match ground level. wrote in message i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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i hadn't thought of that. thanks for the idea.
Toller wrote: wrote in message ups.com... i want the building to be on the ground, but it can't be both plumb and level, if it's touching on uneven ground. You just set the posts and build down until you get to the ground. At least that is how my barn is built. As long as the posts are all plumb, the ground doesn't matter much. i'm not concerned if there are humps on the floor inside the buidling after its' up, so long as it's structurally sound. does that make any sense? Toller wrote: My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. What issues do you see? wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor
Best way to build it is to make a pole foundation.
12 x 24 I assume you want to have an opening so I would set 4x4x6 post into the ground 36ins then be sure to put some form of concrete block under them. space your side post 6ft apart your gable end post 3ft. then get 2x6xthe longest length you can which is 14ft at most lumber stores pressure treated bandboard. get enough to make your skirt around the base. then cut off the excess post to be level with them. Then cap it with a 2x8 pressure treated board and you have a pole foundation. You can then build stud walls etc. with a shovel and a bit of work you can probably get the area around post level. Consider renting an auger at your local tool rental it'll make it short work. You need stainless 6in carriage bolts to attach the bandboard to the post and you can nail the sill plate aka 2x8 on top with 16's. Down the road with this foundation you can also have concrete poured. For now you should probably go with 1 1/2 limestone to cover the ground. For your walls and strength I would build a 2x4 16 on center then run purlins across the walls to accept your boards or t11 or metal. Truss roofs are nicer and hold up to heavy loads just remember to run a storm brace. Hope this helps, Cindy wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor
Best way to build it is to make a pole foundation.
12 x 24 I assume you want to have an opening so I would set 4x4x6 post into the ground 36ins then be sure to put some form of concrete block under them. space your side post 6ft apart your gable end post 3ft. then get 2x6xthe longest length you can which is 14ft at most lumber stores pressure treated bandboard. get enough to make your skirt around the base. then cut off the excess post to be level with them. Then cap it with a 2x8 pressure treated board and you have a pole foundation. You can then build stud walls etc. with a shovel and a bit of work you can probably get the area around post level. Consider renting an auger at your local tool rental it'll make it short work. You need stainless 6in carriage bolts to attach the bandboard to the post and you can nail the sill plate aka 2x8 on top with 16's. Down the road with this foundation you can also have concrete poured. For now you should probably go with 1 1/2 limestone to cover the ground. For your walls and strength I would build a 2x4 16 on center then run purlins across the walls to accept your boards or t11 or metal. Truss roofs are nicer and hold up to heavy loads just remember to run a storm brace. Hope this helps, Cindy wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor
the floor will come later. i don't have the money for a concrete or
wood floor right now. wrote: You should check locally to see if there are any codes that you need to meet. You also should consider the possible issue of moisture damage and depending on your design, remember that building without a foundation, especially in areas that freeze, is not a good idea. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit I second and third that espically for such a large building!!! Moisture is a problem with my shed and it has a concrete floor. I cant imagine the rust with a dirt floor |
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wanting to build a shed (12x24) with dirt floor
i was thinking of 4 posts (one in each corner), is that too little to
be sturdy for this little outbuilding? i was thinking of pressure treated 4x4's. if i do the 4 post thing, should i be considering larger sized posts? Bill wrote: The shed will not last long if there is wood contacting the ground (termites). Then also if it is not well built, the first good wind to come along will blow it down. Building it so it will last a long time and withstand heavy winds seems contrary to building it on the cheap if you ask me. Anyway I suppose you can sink poles in the ground which all raise up to the same height, then build your roof. And basically nail boards around the sides (all level) going from the top down. Just nail more boards on the side(s) where the ground is lower. Cut the last bottom boards so they have an angle to match the ground. Make door with a bottom angle to match ground level. wrote in message i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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i don't understand the part about cutting off the excess posts to be
level with "them" after the skirt part. also, if the posts are capped with a 2x8, there would be 4 inches extra. unless the are on the side like the skirt, i'm assuming. Cindy G wrote: Best way to build it is to make a pole foundation. 12 x 24 I assume you want to have an opening so I would set 4x4x6 post into the ground 36ins then be sure to put some form of concrete block under them. space your side post 6ft apart your gable end post 3ft. then get 2x6xthe longest length you can which is 14ft at most lumber stores pressure treated bandboard. get enough to make your skirt around the base. then cut off the excess post to be level with them. Then cap it with a 2x8 pressure treated board and you have a pole foundation. You can then build stud walls etc. with a shovel and a bit of work you can probably get the area around post level. Consider renting an auger at your local tool rental it'll make it short work. You need stainless 6in carriage bolts to attach the bandboard to the post and you can nail the sill plate aka 2x8 on top with 16's. Down the road with this foundation you can also have concrete poured. For now you should probably go with 1 1/2 limestone to cover the ground. For your walls and strength I would build a 2x4 16 on center then run purlins across the walls to accept your boards or t11 or metal. Truss roofs are nicer and hold up to heavy loads just remember to run a storm brace. Hope this helps, Cindy wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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are there good online resource with illustrations for constructing a pole building like this? |
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On 11 Sep 2006 05:10:35 -0700, "
wrote: You should check locally to see if there are any codes that you need to meet. You also should consider the possible issue of moisture damage and depending on your design, remember that building without a foundation, especially in areas that freeze, is not a good idea. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit I second and third that espically for such a large building!!! Moisture is a problem with my shed and it has a concrete floor. I cant imagine the rust with a dirt floor If you dig out 3" of dirt, put in plastic, and rake the dirt back in, ground-water is less of a problem. |
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i was thinking of 4 posts (one in each corner), is that too little to be sturdy for this little outbuilding? i was thinking of pressure treated 4x4's. if i do the 4 post thing, should i be considering larger sized posts? Here a link to a google.com search for "pole barn" "wind load". You can get a general idea from reading a lot of these links. If the link below does not work, go to google.com and paste the following in the search box (including quotes)... "pole barn" "wind load" http://www.google.com/search?num=20&...22&btnG=Search |
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i wasn't really thinking of the wind load. something that long would
probably act like a sail... Goedjn wrote: On 11 Sep 2006 07:48:59 -0700, wrote: i was thinking of 4 posts (one in each corner), is that too little to be sturdy for this little outbuilding? i was thinking of pressure treated 4x4's. if i do the 4 post thing, should i be considering larger sized posts? How are you planning on spanning the 24 feet between posts, to resist wind-loads? |
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building a structure like this, the only problem I forsee is making
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wrote: i was thinking of 4 posts (one in each corner), is that too little to be sturdy for this little outbuilding? i was thinking of pressure treated 4x4's. if i do the 4 post thing, should i be considering larger sized posts? ...snipped... I am not an engineer or architect but you will definitely need more than 4 4X4 posts for a 12X24' building. Just think about it; how are you ever going to build a wall of conventional sized lumber that is 24' long, supported only at the ends, without it sagging? And 24' long lumber is not exactly common, either. (I almost said it doesn't grow on trees ) -- Larry Wasserman Baltimore, Maryland |
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Mine is the same. If it's a pole building it dont matter. Just set
the building level and apply your siding near the ground. I'd apply center match treated boards at the ground level or else you will end up with rotted wood on the bottom. Of course, use treated posts too. You oculd always fill in the low end, or level the whole area too. On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 03:54:52 GMT, "Toller" wrote: My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. What issues do you see? wrote in message oups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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Why not?????????
Make the building level, fill in the bottom with treated boards..... Make the siding even all the way around, those treated boards will fill in the gaps, dig them in a little if you want, or else you'll have to rip cut them to fit the soil. On 10 Sep 2006 20:59:20 -0700, wrote: i want the building to be on the ground, but it can't be both plumb and level, if it's touching on uneven ground. i'm not concerned if there are humps on the floor inside the buidling after its' up, so long as it's structurally sound. does that make any sense? Toller wrote: My barn floor is dirt, and it is both sloped and uneven. Doesn't seem to be a problem at all. What issues do you see? wrote in message ups.com... i want to build a wood shed for very little money, i have salvaged wood from a garage that was needing torn down. Most of the wood is salvageable, but not all. I am planning to make this shed on a dirt floor. However, the area i am going to put it on, is not flat. i don't think the flatness would matter so much if i was going to put a floor in it, because i could raise the floor above the ground on one end. How should i go about doing this? It will be constructed like a pole building. |
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