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Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.

- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.

I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?

I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.

Thanks!

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Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument
I find somewhat demeaning.

- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.

I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?

I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.

Thanks!


I think the problem in part is they are using the fan to circulate the
air and to get the more moist air past the humidity sensor. If you don't
move the air the dehumidifier would not be very responsive.

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My preference is to let the normal diffusion of humidity handle this,
not the fan.

I don't believe that the corner of the bathroom with the dehumidifier
would be dry while the opposite corner is saturated. A dehumidifier
with "fan-auto-shutoff" might turn on & off a little more often, but I
choose the energy savings that come with having the fan & compressor
always off in the majority of time when the desired humidity has been
reached.

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Paul wrote:
Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument
I find somewhat demeaning.

- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.

I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?

I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.

Thanks!


I think the problem in part is they are using the fan to circulate the
air and to get the more moist air past the humidity sensor. If you don't
move the air the dehumidifier would not be very responsive.

--
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Dia duit


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My preference is to let the normal diffusion of humidity handle this,
not the fan.

I don't believe that the corner of the bathroom with the dehumidifier
would be dry while the opposite corner is saturated. A dehumidifier
with "fan-auto-shutoff" might turn on & off a little more often, but I
choose the energy savings that come with having the fan & compressor
always off in the majority of time when the desired humidity has been
reached.


Given the location of the sensor, it is very possible to have a large
variation in humidity. If there is enough of a draft or air movement, you
are somewhat correct. In a closed bathroom, there is going to be little
current to trigger the sensor, thus greater swings in humidity. Tolerable?
Maybe, but since you are so much in the minority the makers won't be taking
the added cost of that type of unit into consideration.


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My preference is to let the normal diffusion of humidity handle this,
not the fan.

I don't believe that the corner of the bathroom with the dehumidifier
would be dry while the opposite corner is saturated. A dehumidifier
with "fan-auto-shutoff" might turn on & off a little more often, but I
choose the energy savings that come with having the fan & compressor
always off in the majority of time when the desired humidity has been
reached.


Given the location of the sensor, it is very possible to have a large
variation in humidity. If there is enough of a draft or air movement, you
are somewhat correct. In a closed bathroom, there is going to be little
current to trigger the sensor, thus greater swings in humidity. Tolerable?
Maybe, but since you are so much in the minority the makers won't be taking
the added cost of that type of unit into consideration.


This is just a guess, but my thought is that the moisture on the heat exchanger
and the output bucket would cause the unit to cycle back on too
frequently if the fan turns off when the compressor does.

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My preference is to let the normal diffusion of humidity handle this,
not the fan.

I don't believe that the corner of the bathroom with the dehumidifier
would be dry while the opposite corner is saturated. A dehumidifier
with "fan-auto-shutoff" might turn on & off a little more often, but
I choose the energy savings that come with having the fan &
compressor always off in the majority of time when the desired
humidity has been reached.


Given the location of the sensor, it is very possible to have a large
variation in humidity. If there is enough of a draft or air movement,
you are somewhat correct. In a closed bathroom, there is going to be
little current to trigger the sensor, thus greater swings in
humidity. Tolerable? Maybe, but since you are so much in the minority
the makers won't be taking the added cost of that type of unit into
consideration.


In addition the whole unit would tend to be warm for some time after
shutdown and that would tend to cause an apparent low humidity reading. It
might however also increase some ventilation. Might be fun to test it out.
However I think I will just leave mine like they are.

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On 14 Aug 2006 11:16:39 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.


Silly maybe, I don't know for sure, but demeaning? Don't take these
things personally.

- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.

I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?


I'll bet it isn't too hard to rewire this one (although I suppose that
voids the warranty.)

I had a room ac where the fan ran all the time, all night even it
cooled down during the night, and it was right next to my bed, to
boot.

All the wires inside had slide on connectors, so I just rearranged 3
of them. (two wires won't be enough, but iirc, you only have to take
off one end of each wire. In this case it took about 15 minutes. Of
course I had the whole thing in my head when I started, and I'm not
sure if you do or not.) I made it so the thermostat (in your case
the humidistat) controlled the power to the compressor and the fan,
instead of the fan current not going through the thermost. Make a
sketch of the way it was so you don't get lost, and so if you do need
service, and you probably won't, you can put it back the way it was
before you bring it back. Use a quality phillips head screwdriver so
you won't leave traces that you've been inside. (How else do they
know?)

Why the comprssor kicks in when it is not humid, I don't know. Before
you do the above, call them and make sure it is meant to do that.
Maybe yours is broken (although I don't think it would be able to do
that if they didn't provide a part to make it happenn.)

I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.

Thanks!


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Thanks to everyone for the intelligent responses. I think this internet
thing is gonna be a hit.

Hmm...hadn't considered opening up the hood & doing some rewiring, but
I am somewhat of a tinkerer. I promise to post the result if I try it.

Based on responses it seems like I will NOT find a new dehumidifier
that turns the fan off when it's "resting", although geez, didn't the
old ones work this way?

The dehumidifier itself is currently in a small bathroom in my
basement, there is frequent traffic but no other circulation other then
the exhaust fan. Have already tried running exhaust fan constantly, but
that does not do the job.

My primary concern is energy consumption, although the dehumidifier
running constantly in the small bathroom is a mild annoyance to my
renter, and I really like to keep her happy.

I could put the dehumidifier in the furnace room (beside the bathroom)
- although I think to make the bathroom dry, it would mean "venting"
the bathroom to the furnace room somehow.

Does anyone know a good place to get energy consumption stats - I just
replaced nearly all my light bulbs with compact fluorescent. I'm not
really trying to save money, just to minimize my energy consumption.
(save the planet, not the money ;o)

Thanks

mm wrote:
On 14 Aug 2006 11:16:39 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.


Silly maybe, I don't know for sure, but demeaning? Don't take these
things personally.

- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.

I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?


I'll bet it isn't too hard to rewire this one (although I suppose that
voids the warranty.)

I had a room ac where the fan ran all the time, all night even it
cooled down during the night, and it was right next to my bed, to
boot.

All the wires inside had slide on connectors, so I just rearranged 3
of them. (two wires won't be enough, but iirc, you only have to take
off one end of each wire. In this case it took about 15 minutes. Of
course I had the whole thing in my head when I started, and I'm not
sure if you do or not.) I made it so the thermostat (in your case
the humidistat) controlled the power to the compressor and the fan,
instead of the fan current not going through the thermost. Make a
sketch of the way it was so you don't get lost, and so if you do need
service, and you probably won't, you can put it back the way it was
before you bring it back. Use a quality phillips head screwdriver so
you won't leave traces that you've been inside. (How else do they
know?)

Why the comprssor kicks in when it is not humid, I don't know. Before
you do the above, call them and make sure it is meant to do that.
Maybe yours is broken (although I don't think it would be able to do
that if they didn't provide a part to make it happenn.)

I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.

Thanks!


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very interesting thank you - I will check this out. Home Depot, here I
come.

DT wrote:
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Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on.



I have never had one that operates with the fan always on. I currently have a
Goldstar and a GE and they both shut off the fan. They come back on for a brief
period every so often to sample the air and and see if the compressor needs to
run.

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"Paul" wrote in message
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Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.


I'd bet that no matter how many facts they give you, nothing would change
your mind. Yes, under many circumstances they are correct.


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On 14 Aug 2006 19:32:29 -0700, "Paul" wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the intelligent responses. I think this internet
thing is gonna be a hit.

Hmm...hadn't considered opening up the hood & doing some rewiring, but
I am somewhat of a tinkerer. I promise to post the result if I try it.

Based on responses it seems like I will NOT find a new dehumidifier
that turns the fan off when it's "resting", although geez, didn't the
old ones work this way?


I don't know. About either question.

Interestingly enough, they now make room ACs the way I made mine with
a swtich to make the fan always on or on auto. Strangely, they call
this the power saver, when I would call it the noise saver.

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Hi All,

I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;

- the fan is always on.



I have never had one that operates with the fan always on. I currently have a
Goldstar and a GE and they both shut off the fan. They come back on for a brief
period every so often to sample the air and and see if the compressor needs to
run.


Ditto the LG and Sears/Kenmore models (which are manufactured by LG).


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Paul wrote:

Based on responses it seems like I will NOT find a new dehumidifier
that turns the fan off when it's "resting", although geez, didn't the
old ones work this way?


Yes. You might add an external humidistat like this one
($32, with a 4.4A contact rating):

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611632220

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pauldelange7 wrote:

Hi All,
I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.
- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.
I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?
I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.
Thanks!



I have the same issue with Danby's not turning off the fan and so am
probably going to return it to Costco since I have not opened the box. I
found one dehumidifier that turns off the fan when the dehumidifier shuts
down. It is Edgestar Model DEP701EW and is available online only as far
as I am aware. I have been using it for about 3 weeks. It has performed
very efficiently and has kept my basement dry. The only issue I have is
my concern about its durability. This model seems to be a replacement for
the discontinued model DEP700EW-1, which also worked well while it lasted
but which lasted only for one season, after which time it stopped working
properly. I took a chance on what I understood to be this redesigned
Model DEP701EW. All I can say right now is that it is performing very
well. I am not using a drain hose and have had to empty the bucket 2 and
3 times a day in this warm, humid, and sometimes rainy weather.

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replying to Paul, garlander wrote:
pauldelange7 wrote:

Hi All,
I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.
- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.
I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?
I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.
Thanks!



I have the same issue with Danby's not turning off the fan and so am
probably going to return it to Costco since I have not opened the box. I
found one dehumidifier that turns off the fan when the dehumidifier shuts
down. It is Edgestar Model DEP701EW and is available online only as far
as I am aware. I have been using it for about 3 weeks. It has performed
very efficiently and has kept my basement dry. The only issue I have is
my concern about its durability. This model seems to be a replacement for
the discontinued model DEP700EW-1, which also worked well while it lasted
but which lasted only for one season, after which time it stopped working
properly. I took a chance on what I understood to be this redesigned
Model DEP701EW. All I can say right now is that it is performing very
well. I am not using a drain hose and have had to empty the bucket 2 and
3 times a day in this warm, humid, and sometimes rainy weather.

Of all the dehumidifiers I have ever owned or worked on, they ALL
shut off the fan when the compressor was not running.. I've had
several old electrohome units, several old GE and the current one is a
5 or 6 year old GE. I usually end up ditching them when they are over
12 years old - several have been significantly over 12 years. This
one looks like it will likely last another 10.
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I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me
that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan
constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.


A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have seems to shut down.
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On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me
that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan
constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.


A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have seems to shut down.


My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every once in a
while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running, the true
humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor. Many
asked why compressor always started up, but got no answers. I find the
timed setting 2 or 4 hours max, useful. My bigger dehumidifier sometimes
sticks on, with the mechanical switch. With drain hose it will just keep
running.

I wonder if my LG just turns on both fan and compressor, because it only
has one output control function.

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On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:58:25 AM UTC-4, Gz wrote:
Davej wrote:

On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:


I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...


- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me


that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan


constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.




A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have seems to shut down.




My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every once in a

while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running, the true

humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor.




I thhink that's probably the reason most of them keep the fan running
all the time. With air circulating, the humidifier is going to get a
better representation of the typical air in the room.

I'd prefer if they had a mode where you can set an on/off duty cycle,
like on 4 hours, off 4 hours. The ones I've seen have a timer that will
shut it off after 2, 4, 6 hours, but won't start it up again.




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trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:58:25 AM UTC-4, Gz wrote:
Davej wrote:

On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:


I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...


- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me


that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan


constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.




A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I
have seems to shut down.




My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every
once in a

while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running,
the true

humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor.




I thhink that's probably the reason most of them keep the fan running
all the time. With air circulating, the humidifier is going to get a
better representation of the typical air in the room.


I'm not so sure about that "most of them" thing. I've never seen one that did
that. None of the 3 I have do it.


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On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:30:41 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:
I'm not so sure about that "most of them" thing. I've never seen one that did

that. None of the 3 I have do it.


I've never seen one that ran the fan all the time either. Mine doesn't.

I question putting one in a bathroom. Why? Run the exhaust fan when there's water running, otherwise you don't need it.

Mine is in the basement which is not air conditioned.

Also, I haven't seen airconditioners that run the fan, unless you leave the fan switch ON instead of AUTO.

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On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:45:06 PM UTC-4, TimR wrote:
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 10:30:41 AM UTC-4, Bob F wrote:

I'm not so sure about that "most of them" thing. I've never seen one that did




that. None of the 3 I have do it.




I've never seen one that ran the fan all the time either. Mine doesn't.



Maybe we should clarify what we mean by running the fan all the time.
The humidifier here doesn't exactly run the fan all the time. It only
runs it when the unit is turned on. But if the unit is turned on, then
the fan runs all the time, whether the compressor is running or not.
For example, it could be on and set to 60% humiditiy. If the humidity is
actually 50%, then the fan runs constantly, but the compressor is off.

I've also seen other units where you could set them to go on/off
following some duty cycle, eg 4 hours on, 4 off. That one the fan turned
off during the off period.




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On 7/9/2014 12:45 PM, TimR wrote:

Also, I haven't seen airconditioners that run

the fan, unless you leave the fan switch ON
instead of AUTO.


I have an old one in my living room. It has
"energy saver" switch which is like fan auto.

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trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:58:25 AM UTC-4, Gz wrote:
Davej wrote:

On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:


I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...


- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me


that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan


constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.




A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have seems to shut down.




My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every once in a

while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running, the true

humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor.




I thhink that's probably the reason most of them keep the fan running
all the time. With air circulating, the humidifier is going to get a
better representation of the typical air in the room.

I'd prefer if they had a mode where you can set an on/off duty cycle,
like on 4 hours, off 4 hours. The ones I've seen have a timer that will
shut it off after 2, 4, 6 hours, but won't start it up again.


My LG does have duty cycle. 2 or 4 hours. The humistat setting still works
in that mode.

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pauldelange7 wrote:

Hi All,
I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco & have the following
beefs;
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me that it's
actually more energy efficient to run the fan constanly - an argument I
find somewhat demeaning.
- even the the humdity is lower then the set-humidity, the compressor
kicks in periodically.
I'd REALLY prefer a dehumidifier that "shuts down" when the desired
humdity level has been reached - can anyone advise if there is such a
product out there?
I just replace all the light bulbs in the house with compact floresent
sp? - I a little miffed that this dehumidifier will now such as much
power out of the grid as I'd though I was saving.
Thanks!




You can, but it won't be some $200 POS from China. Take a look at the
recent recall. Practically every dehumidifier is made by Gree in China.

Anyway, I have an Aprilaire 1710 that runs the fan for 3 minutes about
once an hour to check the humidity. If the humidity is OK, it shuts
down for another hour. If not the compressor runs until the set point
is reached. It's not the kind of thing you would put in the living
room, but it is built like a tank and gets the job done.

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On 7/9/2014 12:58 AM, gregz wrote:
Davej wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me
that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan
constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.


A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have seems to shut down.


My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every once in a
while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running, the true
humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor. Many
asked why compressor always started up, but got no answers. I find the
timed setting 2 or 4 hours max, useful. My bigger dehumidifier sometimes
sticks on, with the mechanical switch. With drain hose it will just keep
running.

I wonder if my LG just turns on both fan and compressor, because it only
has one output control function.

Greg

I just bought a new Frigidaire which was paid for, by the refund on the
old GE (Gree MIC). The Frigidaire fan shuts off, however, because there
is wetness inside the unit, it will fire up again as the moisture
evaporates and make the humidity go up inside the case. It keeps going
on and off, ad nauseum. The Frigidaire is very quiet compared to the
old Gree. The digital humidity control is a dismal failure. Besides
the problem above, if you set it to 45% it will lower the humidity to
somewhere in the 40s. If you set it to 50%, it will hold it to about
55% ... What's this all about? Anyway, I have ordered an outboard
humidity controller, but it hasn't come yet. I'll see how that works?
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On 7/10/2014 1:34 PM, Art Todesco wrote:
On 7/9/2014 12:58 AM, gregz wrote:
Davej wrote:
On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...
- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me
that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan
constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.

A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have
seems to shut down.


My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every once
in a
while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running, the
true
humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor. Many
asked why compressor always started up, but got no answers. I find the
timed setting 2 or 4 hours max, useful. My bigger dehumidifier sometimes
sticks on, with the mechanical switch. With drain hose it will just keep
running.

I wonder if my LG just turns on both fan and compressor, because it only
has one output control function.

Greg

I just bought a new Frigidaire which was paid for, by the refund on the
old GE (Gree MIC). The Frigidaire fan shuts off, however, because there
is wetness inside the unit, it will fire up again as the moisture
evaporates and make the humidity go up inside the case. It keeps going
on and off, ad nauseum. The Frigidaire is very quiet compared to the
old Gree. The digital humidity control is a dismal failure. Besides
the problem above, if you set it to 45% it will lower the humidity to
somewhere in the 40s. If you set it to 50%, it will hold it to about
55% ... What's this all about? Anyway, I have ordered an outboard
humidity controller, but it hasn't come yet. I'll see how that works?


Well, I went through 2 Frigidaires and 1 GE before biting the bullet and
getting the Aprilaire. Collectively, those 3 lasted about 15 months in
total (9 months, 3 months and 3 months) before freezing themselves into
a brick.

The instructions said they controlled to +- 5%. Initially, I took that
to mean 5% of the reading. In practice, it turned out to mean a swing
of 5% to either side on the setting.
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On Friday, July 11, 2014 10:09:33 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
On 7/10/2014 1:34 PM, Art Todesco wrote:

On 7/9/2014 12:58 AM, gregz wrote:


Davej wrote:


On Monday, August 14, 2006 1:16:39 PM UTC-5, Paul wrote:


I just purchased a Danby dehumidifier from Costco...


- the fan is always on. Customer Service tried to tell me


that it's actually more energy efficient to run the fan


constantly - an argument I find somewhat demeaning.




A fan is insignificant compared to the compressor. The Soleus I have


seems to shut down.




My LG dehumidifier always starts up the fan and compressor every once


in a


while. It's annoying, yet energy compliant. Without a fan running, the


true


humidity can't be measured accurately if the tank is seeping vapor. Many


asked why compressor always started up, but got no answers. I find the


timed setting 2 or 4 hours max, useful. My bigger dehumidifier sometimes


sticks on, with the mechanical switch. With drain hose it will just keep


running.




I wonder if my LG just turns on both fan and compressor, because it only


has one output control function.




Greg




I just bought a new Frigidaire which was paid for, by the refund on the


old GE (Gree MIC). The Frigidaire fan shuts off, however, because there


is wetness inside the unit, it will fire up again as the moisture


evaporates and make the humidity go up inside the case. It keeps going


on and off, ad nauseum. The Frigidaire is very quiet compared to the


old Gree. The digital humidity control is a dismal failure. Besides


the problem above, if you set it to 45% it will lower the humidity to


somewhere in the 40s. If you set it to 50%, it will hold it to about


55% ... What's this all about? Anyway, I have ordered an outboard


humidity controller, but it hasn't come yet. I'll see how that works?




Well, I went through 2 Frigidaires and 1 GE before biting the bullet and

getting the Aprilaire. Collectively, those 3 lasted about 15 months in

total (9 months, 3 months and 3 months) before freezing themselves into

a brick.



The instructions said they controlled to +- 5%. Initially, I took that

to mean 5% of the reading. In practice, it turned out to mean a swing

of 5% to either side on the setting.


I think extended warranties are almost always a bad idea. But I
think they should be considered in the case of dehumidifiers. When I
went to buy one about 3 years ago, I had an online price that I was using
to negotiate with at the local appliance store. The guy finally made
me an offer, where it was about $35 more, but he his deal included an
extended warranty. Sure enough, it failed during the extended period.
And of course, when I went to get it honored, they didn't have the
same model, only one that was 10 pints a day larger in capacity. So,
I wound up paying another $30, but it was still an overall good deal.

Given that a lot of these fail at 2 or 3 years, I think an extended
warranty is worth at least considering.
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replying to Paul, Ann wrote:
Did you find a dehumidifier that turns off. I am looking for one too, the
manufactures think we believe in gold at the end of a rainbow.

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replying to Paul, Ann wrote:
Did you find a dehumidifier that turns off. I am looking for one too, the
manufactures think we believe in gold at the end of a rainbow.

Every one I've ever owned shut off the fan when the compressor shut
off, and over the last 45 years I have owned quite a few, and only
bought one new. I think I got ALL of the rest for free - possibly
bought one or two at garage sales.
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