Our through the wall sleeve air conditioner no longer functions. It is
about 35 years old & time for a replacement. This is a condo, we have one
in the front room & one in the back, in our computer room. The current unit
is 8500 BTUs in a 170 sqft room plugged into a 220 outlet.

We have located several choices that appear to fit. In particular, two
units, a 8,000 & a 13,200 BTU that we can purchase & bring home today.
The 8000 BTU is a 110 & would be on the same circuit as the computers.
The 13200 unit is 220 & would be on it's own circuit.


Problem ONE: How the hell do I get the old one out?!? It seems to be in
there solid, VERY solid. Any suggestions are welcome & I understand that
answering this one without seeing it is difficult.

Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure. However, keeping it
on it's own circuit is necessary. Is there such a thing as an adapter to go
from the 220 to the 110?

TIA!

"Bruin" wrote in message
. ..
Our through the wall sleeve air conditioner no longer functions. It is
about 35 years old & time for a replacement. This is a condo, we have one
in the front room & one in the back, in our computer room. The current
unit is 8500 BTUs in a 170 sqft room plugged into a 220 outlet.

We have located several choices that appear to fit. In particular, two
units, a 8,000 & a 13,200 BTU that we can purchase & bring home today. The
8000 BTU is a 110 & would be on the same circuit as the computers.
The 13200 unit is 220 & would be on it's own circuit.


Problem ONE: How the hell do I get the old one out?!? It seems to be
in there solid, VERY solid. Any suggestions are welcome & I understand
that answering this one without seeing it is difficult.

Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure. However, keeping
it on it's own circuit is necessary. Is there such a thing as an adapter
to go from the 220 to the 110?

TIA!



UPDATE!

Problem ONE is solved. With the right persuader, one can move mountains.
All I need is a dolly to cart it out of here (& bring the new one in when I
purchase it).

There is not an adapter that will take you from 220 and deliver
110. The very fact that you asked suggests that the cure is
beyond your present capabilities. You would be much safer to hire
an electrician.

Your 220 circuit might have 2 110 legs with a ground. It may or
may not have a neutral depending on age and code requirements when
installed.

Your new 110 circuit needs 1 110 leg, a ground, and a neutral.
These changes can be made in the breaker panel with the wires that
you have, but only by someone who knows what it is they are doing.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)




"Bruin" wrote in message
. ..
Our through the wall sleeve air conditioner no longer functions.
It is about 35 years old & time for a replacement. This is a
condo, we have one in the front room & one in the back, in our
computer room. The current unit is 8500 BTUs in a 170 sqft room
plugged into a 220 outlet.

We have located several choices that appear to fit. In
particular, two units, a 8,000 & a 13,200 BTU that we can
purchase & bring home today. The 8000 BTU is a 110 & would be on
the same circuit as the computers.
The 13200 unit is 220 & would be on it's own circuit.


Problem ONE: How the hell do I get the old one out?!? It
seems to be in there solid, VERY solid. Any suggestions are
welcome & I understand that answering this one without seeing it
is difficult.

Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure.
However, keeping it on it's own circuit is necessary. Is there
such a thing as an adapter to go from the 220 to the 110?

TIA!

Bruin wrote:
Our through the wall sleeve air conditioner no longer
functions. It is about 35 years old & time for a
replacement. This is a condo, we have one in the front
room & one in the back, in our computer room. The current
unit is 8500 BTUs in a 170 sqft room plugged into a 220
outlet.
We have located several choices that appear to fit. In
particular, two units, a 8,000 & a 13,200 BTU that we can
purchase & bring home today. The 8000 BTU is a 110 & would be
on the same circuit as the
computers. The 13200 unit is 220 & would be on it's own
circuit.


Problem ONE: How the hell do I get the old one out?!? It
seems to be in there solid, VERY solid. Any
suggestions are welcome & I understand that answering this
one without seeing it is difficult.
Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure.
However, keeping it on it's own circuit is necessary. Is
there such a thing as an adapter to go from the 220 to the
110?

No, but a contractor could make short work out of converting the
outlet to a pair of 110's. Any chance the 13200 is also
available in 220?

HTH
Pop



TIA!

Our through the wall sleeve air conditioner no longer functions. It is
about 35 years old & time for a replacement. This is a condo, we have
one in the front room & one in the back, in our computer room. The
current unit is 8500 BTUs in a 170 sqft room plugged into a 220 outlet.

We have located several choices that appear to fit. In particular, two
units, a 8,000 & a 13,200 BTU that we can purchase & bring home today.
The 8000 BTU is a 110 & would be on the same circuit as the computers.
The 13200 unit is 220 & would be on it's own circuit.


Problem ONE: How the hell do I get the old one out?!? It seems to be
in there solid, VERY solid. Any suggestions are welcome & I understand
that answering this one without seeing it is difficult.

Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure. However, keeping
it on it's own circuit is necessary. Is there such a thing as an adapter
to go from the 220 to the 110?

TIA!


There is not an adapter that will take you from 220 and deliver 110. The
very fact that you asked suggests that the cure is beyond your present
capabilities. You would be much safer to hire an electrician.

Your 220 circuit might have 2 110 legs with a ground. It may or may not
have a neutral depending on age and code requirements when installed.

Your new 110 circuit needs 1 110 leg, a ground, and a neutral. These
changes can be made in the breaker panel with the wires that you have, but
only by someone who knows what it is they are doing.

--
______________________________
Keep the whole world singing . . . .
DanG (remove the sevens)



Yes, it's true, I other than a bit of irrigation work, I have never done
anything electrical. The fact that I asked about a converter/adapter is
because the salesguy at an appliance dealer told me they existed. The guy
at Radio Shack tried to sell me a $48 & a $18 set of converters he claimed
would do the job. I pointed out there was no ground & he tells me "...it's
not needed." HAHAHA

Right now I got new 8000 BTU running & it is running well. With all three
computers. Computers are all on UPSs & seem to be ok. I hope to get
someone to convert the existing 220 to 110 as another suggested.

Thanks for your response!

"Pop" wrote in message
news:sdWpg.1166$J47.58@trndny02...
Bruin wrote:
Our through the wall sleeve air conditioner no longer
functions. It is about 35 years old & time for a
replacement. This is a condo, we have one in the front
room & one in the back, in our computer room. The current
unit is 8500 BTUs in a 170 sqft room plugged into a 220
outlet.
We have located several choices that appear to fit. In
particular, two units, a 8,000 & a 13,200 BTU that we can
purchase & bring home today. The 8000 BTU is a 110 & would be on the same
circuit as the
computers. The 13200 unit is 220 & would be on it's own circuit.


Problem ONE: How the hell do I get the old one out?!? It seems to be
in there solid, VERY solid. Any
suggestions are welcome & I understand that answering this
one without seeing it is difficult.
Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure. However, keeping
it on it's own circuit is necessary. Is
there such a thing as an adapter to go from the 220 to the
110?

No, but a contractor could make short work out of converting the outlet to
a pair of 110's. Any chance the 13200 is also available in 220?

HTH
Pop



TIA!



Excellent suggestion! Convert the 220 into 2 110s.

As I stated in another reply, I got the 8000 BTU unit installed & running.
Room when from 89 to 77F & is still dropping.

Thanks for your reply!

On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 19:13:46 -0400, "Bruin"
wrote:


Yes, it's true, I other than a bit of irrigation work, I have never done
anything electrical. The fact that I asked about a converter/adapter is
because the salesguy at an appliance dealer told me they existed. The guy
at Radio Shack tried to sell me a $48 & a $18 set of converters he claimed
would do the job. I pointed out there was no ground & he tells me "...it's
not needed." HAHAHA

He's selling kits that will allow you to plug your electric razor into
220 European outlets, IF your razor has a switch to change it to 220.
So he was close. And your razor doesn't need a ground.

Right now I got new 8000 BTU running & it is running well. With all three
computers. Computers are all on UPSs & seem to be ok. I hope to get
someone to convert the existing 220 to 110 as another suggested.

Or buy a 220 Volt AC. There are none that are smaller? 220 V
appliances are more efficient than 110. OTOH, too big a unit is not
good. I forget how to explain that.

Thanks for your response!

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 19:13:46 -0400, "Bruin"
wrote:


Yes, it's true, I other than a bit of irrigation work, I have never done
anything electrical. The fact that I asked about a converter/adapter is
because the salesguy at an appliance dealer told me they existed. The guy
at Radio Shack tried to sell me a $48 & a $18 set of converters he claimed
would do the job. I pointed out there was no ground & he tells me
"...it's
not needed." HAHAHA

He's selling kits that will allow you to plug your electric razor into
220 European outlets, IF your razor has a switch to change it to 220.
So he was close. And your razor doesn't need a ground.

Right now I got new 8000 BTU running & it is running well. With all
three
computers. Computers are all on UPSs & seem to be ok. I hope to get
someone to convert the existing 220 to 110 as another suggested.

Or buy a 220 Volt AC. There are none that are smaller? 220 V
appliances are more efficient than 110. OTOH, too big a unit is not
good. I forget how to explain that.

Thanks for your response!


No, the 13200 BTU was the smallest I could find locally. An item this large
is usually pricey to have it shipped plus we needed it ASAP. I bought
the 8000 BTU unit & it is working & the computer room is darn right chilly
now.

Thanks for your response!

"Bruin" wrote in message

No, the 13200 BTU was the smallest I could find locally. An item this
large is usually pricey to have it shipped plus we needed it ASAP. I
bought the 8000 BTU unit & it is working & the computer room is darn right
chilly now.

You did the right thing. Going that large, the unit would not run long
enough for proper dehumidification. You end up with a cold clammy room.

mm posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

220 V
appliances are more efficient than 110

How so?
--
Tekkie

On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 22:14:02 -0400, Tekkie® wrote:

mm posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

Fwiw, I didn't say that.

220 V
appliances are more efficient than 110

But I did say this.

How so?

That's what I've heard for 40 years. Maybe an engineer can explain
it.

"mm" wrote in message
appliances are more efficient than 110

But I did say this.

How so?

That's what I've heard for 40 years. Maybe an engineer can explain
it.

Minor differences. Motors will start faster, pull less amps (but the same
watts that we pay for ) so they can use smaller wires. Operating cost is
the same.

On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:55:18 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
appliances are more efficient than 110

But I did say this.

How so?

That's what I've heard for 40 years. Maybe an engineer can explain
it.

Minor differences. Motors will start faster, pull less amps (but the same
watts that we pay for ) so they can use smaller wires. Operating cost is
the same.

Hmmm. This post is very destructive to my mental state! It's
somethign like being told my wife of 40 years has always been cheating
on me.

mm posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom.

On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 03:55:18 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"mm" wrote in message
appliances are more efficient than 110

But I did say this.

How so?

That's what I've heard for 40 years. Maybe an engineer can explain
it.

Minor differences. Motors will start faster, pull less amps (but the same
watts that we pay for ) so they can use smaller wires. Operating cost is
the same.

Hmmm. This post is very destructive to my mental state! It's
somethign like being told my wife of 40 years has always been cheating
on me.



Only the last 7 years, she had a lesbian relationship before that.
--
Tekkie

In article ,
Bruin wrote:

Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure. However, keeping it
on it's own circuit is necessary. Is there such a thing as an adapter to go
from the 220 to the 110?

TIA!



I've learned that overkill is *good*!

That is, if you want to save money on the AC power-usage.

You can run it for maybe 15min each hour or two, and
it gets cold enough, and gets rid of the humidity.

(Of course, only if you don't mind being the controller
for it.)

Works for me.

David

In article ,
David Combs wrote:
In article ,
Bruin wrote:

Problem TWO: the 13200 BTU unit is overkill I am sure. However, keeping it
on it's own circuit is necessary. Is there such a thing as an adapter to go
from the 220 to the 110?

TIA!



I've learned that overkill is *good*!

That is, if you want to save money on the AC power-usage.

You can run it for maybe 15min each hour or two, and
it gets cold enough, and gets rid of the humidity.

(Of course, only if you don't mind being the controller
for it.)

Works for me.

David


Oh, I must add that I place a LARGE fan in front of the AC,
and it blasts the air into a circuit around the room.

So most (maybe all?) of the humid air gets run through the AC.

D.