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Default PEX... fittings really supposed to be that loose before crimping?

Going to be adding a faucet in our laundry room and I've gotten all the
materials I need, except the crimper (picking it up today).

I did a dry run and the 1/2" pex fittings sure seem loose inside the 1/2"
line.

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing something?


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Default PEX... fittings really supposed to be that loose before crimping?

Sort of unrelated but I used PEX to replace some outside faucet runs
and used quick connect fittings from Lowes. They worked great and
everything just snaps together with a perfect seal. I hope it proves to
be a good product.

Noozer wrote:
Going to be adding a faucet in our laundry room and I've gotten all the
materials I need, except the crimper (picking it up today).

I did a dry run and the 1/2" pex fittings sure seem loose inside the 1/2"
line.

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing something?


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Default PEX... fittings really supposed to be that loose before crimping?

Sort of unrelated but I used PEX to replace some outside faucet runs
and used quick connect fittings from Lowes. They worked great and
everything just snaps together with a perfect seal. I hope it proves to
be a good product.

Noozer wrote:
Going to be adding a faucet in our laundry room and I've gotten all the
materials I need, except the crimper (picking it up today).

I did a dry run and the 1/2" pex fittings sure seem loose inside the 1/2"
line.

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing something?


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Default PEX... fittings really supposed to be that loose before crimping?

ianjones wrote:
Sort of unrelated but I used PEX to replace some outside faucet runs
and used quick connect fittings from Lowes. They worked great and
everything just snaps together with a perfect seal. I hope it proves to
be a good product.

Noozer wrote:

Going to be adding a faucet in our laundry room and I've gotten all the
materials I need, except the crimper (picking it up today).

I did a dry run and the 1/2" pex fittings sure seem loose inside the 1/2"
line.

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing something?



Hi,
Crimping tool has to be properly adjusted(calibrated), then no sweat!
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:36:05 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:


Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing something?


Yes. When you get the crimper, ensure you get the "go - no go" tool
to check crimps.

Good luck..


Oren

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and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:36:05 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing
something?


Yes. When you get the crimper, ensure you get the "go - no go" tool
to check crimps.


Typical Home Despot... They didn't have a clue what the "go - no go" gauge
was, even after I explained how it was used. The rental desk didn't have any
and there were none on the shelf to be purchased.

Unfortunately, HD rents the crimper for $9/day. Anyplace else wants $25/day.

Good luck..


I'll need it!

I've done a few crimps, they look good and are solid. I'm sure that all will
be well.


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"Oren" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:36:05 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing
something?


Yes. When you get the crimper, ensure you get the "go - no go" tool
to check crimps.


Typical Home Despot... They didn't have a clue what the "go - no go" gauge
was, even after I explained how it was used. The rental desk didn't have
any and there were none on the shelf to be purchased.

Unfortunately, HD rents the crimper for $9/day. Anyplace else wants
$25/day.

Good luck..


I'll need it!

I've done a few crimps, they look good and are solid. I'm sure that all
will be well.

I just finished repairing a large section of galvanized with PEX and yes the
thing is rather loose before you crimp it. It really holds a good amount of
pressue when its crimped, but using that tool is a gigantic pain in the ass,
especially when you're in awkward positions.

I'm not totally sure what good the go/no-go gauge is, but so far I pass the
tests. Seems like it the no-go gauge should be larger than the go guage,
maybe they're testing to make sure the crimp isn't too tight?


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"Noozer" wrote in message
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"Oren" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:36:05 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing
something?

Yes. When you get the crimper, ensure you get the "go - no go" tool
to check crimps.


Typical Home Despot... They didn't have a clue what the "go - no go"
gauge was, even after I explained how it was used. The rental desk didn't
have any and there were none on the shelf to be purchased.

Unfortunately, HD rents the crimper for $9/day. Anyplace else wants
$25/day.

Good luck..


I'll need it!

I've done a few crimps, they look good and are solid. I'm sure that all
will be well.

I just finished repairing a large section of galvanized with PEX and yes
the thing is rather loose before you crimp it. It really holds a good
amount of pressue when its crimped, but using that tool is a gigantic pain
in the ass, especially when you're in awkward positions.

I'm not totally sure what good the go/no-go gauge is, but so far I pass
the tests. Seems like it the no-go gauge should be larger than the go
guage, maybe they're testing to make sure the crimp isn't too tight?

The gages are to ensure that the crimped ring is neither too loose nor too
tight. To ensure that the outside of the crimped ring is between some 2 size
limits, the no-go must be smaller than the go. If you were measuring the
inside diameter the no-go would be larger.
Don Young


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"Oren" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:36:05 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing
something?

Yes. When you get the crimper, ensure you get the "go - no go" tool
to check crimps.

Typical Home Despot... They didn't have a clue what the "go - no go"
gauge was, even after I explained how it was used. The rental desk
didn't have any and there were none on the shelf to be purchased.

Unfortunately, HD rents the crimper for $9/day. Anyplace else wants
$25/day.

Good luck..

I'll need it!

I've done a few crimps, they look good and are solid. I'm sure that all
will be well.

I just finished repairing a large section of galvanized with PEX and yes
the thing is rather loose before you crimp it. It really holds a good
amount of pressue when its crimped, but using that tool is a gigantic
pain in the ass, especially when you're in awkward positions.

I'm not totally sure what good the go/no-go gauge is, but so far I pass
the tests. Seems like it the no-go gauge should be larger than the go
guage, maybe they're testing to make sure the crimp isn't too tight?

The gages are to ensure that the crimped ring is neither too loose nor too
tight. To ensure that the outside of the crimped ring is between some 2
size limits, the no-go must be smaller than the go. If you were measuring
the inside diameter the no-go would be larger.
Don Young

I think of go/no-go gauges in terms of bolt action firearms - since I do
early war model restorations. There the Go gauge means the clearance from
the bolt face to the chamber is within factory tolerances, the no-go gauge
means it exceeds those specifications, and the field gauge means it exceeds
the military's specifications.


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"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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"Don Young" wrote in message
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"Eigenvector" wrote in message
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"Noozer" wrote in message
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"Oren" wrote in message
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 12:36:05 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:

Will the metal crimp ring really tighten this up or am I missing
something?

Yes. When you get the crimper, ensure you get the "go - no go" tool
to check crimps.

Typical Home Despot... They didn't have a clue what the "go - no go"
gauge was, even after I explained how it was used. The rental desk
didn't have any and there were none on the shelf to be purchased.

Unfortunately, HD rents the crimper for $9/day. Anyplace else wants
$25/day.

Good luck..

I'll need it!

I've done a few crimps, they look good and are solid. I'm sure that all
will be well.
I just finished repairing a large section of galvanized with PEX and yes
the thing is rather loose before you crimp it. It really holds a good
amount of pressue when its crimped, but using that tool is a gigantic
pain in the ass, especially when you're in awkward positions.

I'm not totally sure what good the go/no-go gauge is, but so far I pass
the tests. Seems like it the no-go gauge should be larger than the go
guage, maybe they're testing to make sure the crimp isn't too tight?

The gages are to ensure that the crimped ring is neither too loose nor
too tight. To ensure that the outside of the crimped ring is between some
2 size limits, the no-go must be smaller than the go. If you were
measuring the inside diameter the no-go would be larger.
Don Young

I think of go/no-go gauges in terms of bolt action firearms - since I do
early war model restorations. There the Go gauge means the clearance from
the bolt face to the chamber is within factory tolerances, the no-go gauge
means it exceeds those specifications, and the field gauge means it
exceeds the military's specifications.

Yes, that type of gage is measuring space, as you would be if measuring an
inside diameter. If you are measuring outside diameter then the concepts are
a little different.

Think of a very crude go/no-go gage to check if a group of rods are between
2 inches and 3 inches in diameter. The go gage would be 3 inches so all good
rods would fit in it. Any rods over 3 inches would not fit in it. The no-go
gage would be a little less than 2 inches. No good rods would fit in it and
any that did would be too small. So any rod which fits into the go gage and
does not fit into the no-go gage must be between 2 and 3 inches and be okay.

Don Young




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Going to be adding a faucet in our laundry room and I've gotten all the
materials I need, except the crimper (picking it up today).


We rented the crimper from Home Depot..$ 10/day IIRC
You are using the proper pex connections, right? They look like cast brass
(yellow metal)


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On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 05:18:29 GMT, "Rudy" wrote:


"Noozer" wrote in message
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Going to be adding a faucet in our laundry room and I've gotten all the
materials I need, except the crimper (picking it up today).


We rented the crimper from Home Depot..$ 10/day IIRC
You are using the proper pex connections, right? They look like cast brass
(yellow metal)


I'm surprised that Harbor Freight doesn't sell one for $14.95


rj
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