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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Just purchased a property and it has a lot of high end appliances. Among
them a double wide SubZero refrigerator probably was added when the house was originally built in 1972. The refrigerator doors have been altered to have the same wood finish as the rest of the kitchen cabinetry, but the refrigerator does not work. If I plug it in it does not cool and some smelly fumes come out from the bottom. The house has been vacant for a while and the owner is an elderly man now living in a nursing home, he had a stroke and was not able to remember much... Should I just toss out the refrigerator or try to fix it? It is 33 years old so is it even worth fixing it or not? If I try to fix it do I get a normal appliance guy or some special SubZero experts? If I toss it out this thing is huge I am not sure I can just roll it to the back alley and wait for bulk trash pick up. Also all of the appliances in the kitchen have the custom wood cabinetry finish, the dish washer, trash compactor, refrigerator, so if I buy a new refrigerator, it will stick out like a sore thumb, not to mention it will be smaller, so the custom built slot it slides in, will have room to one side and up. MC |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
"miamicuse" wrote in message ... Just purchased a property and it has a lot of high end appliances. Among them a double wide SubZero refrigerator probably was added when the house was originally built in 1972. The refrigerator doors have been altered to have the same wood finish as the rest of the kitchen cabinetry, I think I'd spend a few dollars to have someone come out and take a look. It won't be cheap, but neither will a new one to match the rest of the kitchen. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Door panels may be resuable.
Dealer / repair can give relative cost of new v fix. TB |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Since 03 or so refrigerators have been more efficient from gov
regulation, up to 60% better. With sub zeros equipment on top it is possibly replaceable, and should be repairable. With the wood you may want a new sub zero, their efficiency rating is very high compared to other makes. Your old unit might cost 15-30$ a month to run a new unit might be 5-7$ a month, there is a payback in new equipment, and utility rates are going up. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
miamicuse wrote:
Should I just toss out the refrigerator or try to fix it? It is 33 years old It is likely to cost large $$ to fix it and then you will still have a 33 year old frig that is an energy hog. I would consider replacing it if it were working. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Taking a lesson from businesses....
Some businesses will *always* repair instead of replacing if the repair cost is lower than the replacement. The exception to this rule is if a replacement will have lower energy costs or result in lower operating costs to the business. In that case, they will spend almost anything and replace with a quickness so their long term operating expenses are lower. So in your case, I would replace it with a quickness as this will result in lower electric bills. However you have the problem of matching it to the other appliances (wood) and finding the same size. Here is the Sub Zero web site showing a new built-in. Might want to call and ask them... http://www.subzero.com/subzero/600series.asp |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
I've worked on several Sub Zero refrigerators. Generally well made.
The energy hog is the compressor, which might need to be replaced. (So, you'd get a new one which is less hoggish). I'd call around, and get a couple folks opinion over the phone. I can think of a couple simple reasons why one might not cool. Including low on freon, inefficient condensor, and a couple others. Aren't new ones more like a thousand dollars? -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "miamicuse" wrote in message ... Just purchased a property and it has a lot of high end appliances. Among them a double wide SubZero refrigerator probably was added when the house was originally built in 1972. The refrigerator doors have been altered to have the same wood finish as the rest of the kitchen cabinetry, but the refrigerator does not work. If I plug it in it does not cool and some smelly fumes come out from the bottom. The house has been vacant for a while and the owner is an elderly man now living in a nursing home, he had a stroke and was not able to remember much... Should I just toss out the refrigerator or try to fix it? It is 33 years old so is it even worth fixing it or not? If I try to fix it do I get a normal appliance guy or some special SubZero experts? If I toss it out this thing is huge I am not sure I can just roll it to the back alley and wait for bulk trash pick up. Also all of the appliances in the kitchen have the custom wood cabinetry finish, the dish washer, trash compactor, refrigerator, so if I buy a new refrigerator, it will stick out like a sore thumb, not to mention it will be smaller, so the custom built slot it slides in, will have room to one side and up. MC |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message Aren't new ones more like a thousand dollars? Cheap ones are closer to $4000 and up, way up. http://www3.shopping.com/xGS-Sub-Zer...igerators~NS-1 |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
The inspector told me a comparable one to the size I have will run around
$12000. But it will be SS finish and I have to figure out how to redo the wood finish. Thanks, MC "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... I've worked on several Sub Zero refrigerators. Generally well made. The energy hog is the compressor, which might need to be replaced. (So, you'd get a new one which is less hoggish). I'd call around, and get a couple folks opinion over the phone. I can think of a couple simple reasons why one might not cool. Including low on freon, inefficient condensor, and a couple others. Aren't new ones more like a thousand dollars? -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. . "miamicuse" wrote in message ... Just purchased a property and it has a lot of high end appliances. Among them a double wide SubZero refrigerator probably was added when the house was originally built in 1972. The refrigerator doors have been altered to have the same wood finish as the rest of the kitchen cabinetry, but the refrigerator does not work. If I plug it in it does not cool and some smelly fumes come out from the bottom. The house has been vacant for a while and the owner is an elderly man now living in a nursing home, he had a stroke and was not able to remember much... Should I just toss out the refrigerator or try to fix it? It is 33 years old so is it even worth fixing it or not? If I try to fix it do I get a normal appliance guy or some special SubZero experts? If I toss it out this thing is huge I am not sure I can just roll it to the back alley and wait for bulk trash pick up. Also all of the appliances in the kitchen have the custom wood cabinetry finish, the dish washer, trash compactor, refrigerator, so if I buy a new refrigerator, it will stick out like a sore thumb, not to mention it will be smaller, so the custom built slot it slides in, will have room to one side and up. MC |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Stormin Mormon wrote:
I've worked on several Sub Zero refrigerators. Generally well made. The energy hog is the compressor, which might need to be replaced. (So, you'd get a new one which is less hoggish). I'd call around, and get a couple folks opinion over the phone. I can think of a couple simple reasons why one might not cool. Including low on freon, inefficient condensor, and a couple others. Aren't new ones more like a thousand dollars? New SubZero refrigerators are more like $8K+ and come in models that allow matching trim to be installed on the doors Yes, a new compressor with installation is likely to be on the order of $1k or more, and will dramatically improve the efficiency of the unit. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
miamicuse wrote:
The inspector told me a comparable one to the size I have will run around $12000. But it will be SS finish and I have to figure out how to redo the wood finish. Thanks, MC Other models in the sub zero line DO come with door panel kits that allow you to attach the SAME door panels and trim that are used on all other cabinets in the room. It may just be that for THIS size, the only choice is SS. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Given the unique situation, I would find a good repair company that
works on Sub Zero. I'd have them come out, figure out what's wrong with it, how much it would cost to fix it, and what the typical life left in it after that might be. If it needs a new compressor, ask if the new one will be more energy efficient, etc. Also ask about the interchange of door panels to other units. If these panels won't fit current models, it's possible they will fit other older Sub Zeros and if you can wait awhile, you might be able to locate a used one that you could sway out. Normally, I would say junk it. But in this case, it's certainly worth the cost of a service call to get some accurate info. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
That's more than I'd expected. Well, now I know the next time I go
repair one -- and help folks to appreciate how inexpensive I really am. Thank you, Ed. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message Aren't new ones more like a thousand dollars? Cheap ones are closer to $4000 and up, way up. http://www3.shopping.com/xGS-Sub-Zer...igerators~NS-1 |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
You mean I coulda got a grand for that compressor I installed? I'm way
too cheap. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Robert Gammon" wrote in message . net... Stormin Mormon wrote: I've worked on several Sub Zero refrigerators. Generally well made. The energy hog is the compressor, which might need to be replaced. (So, you'd get a new one which is less hoggish). I'd call around, and get a couple folks opinion over the phone. I can think of a couple simple reasons why one might not cool. Including low on freon, inefficient condensor, and a couple others. Aren't new ones more like a thousand dollars? New SubZero refrigerators are more like $8K+ and come in models that allow matching trim to be installed on the doors Yes, a new compressor with installation is likely to be on the order of $1k or more, and will dramatically improve the efficiency of the unit. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Im sure it is more than just the compressor that has made new units
60%+ more efficient, even replacing the whole cooling system is probably a good investment compared to buying a new unit. Since it is top mounted it should not be that hard to do. If it is recessed, lining the walls and back with R7.2" Polyisocyanurate foamboard will likely double or more the present insulation value. Wood inserts on the doors help alot in insulating. I would bet that if you measured the doors the panels you have that they can be interchanged with new models. I did that on a 60s Kitchen Aid diswasher, they fit perfectly. Definatly have a repairman get it running then review your options, find someone that Knows Sub Zero, not a student. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
Robert Gammon wrote:
wrote: Given the unique situation, I would find a good repair company that works on Sub Zero. I'd have them come out, figure out what's wrong with it, how much it would cost to fix it, and what the typical life left in it after that might be. If it needs a new compressor, ask if the new one will be more energy efficient, etc. Also ask about the interchange of door panels to other units. If these panels won't fit current models, it's possible they will fit other older Sub Zeros and if you can wait awhile, you might be able to locate a used one that you could sway out. Normally, I would say junk it. But in this case, it's certainly worth the cost of a service call to get some accurate info. A different SIZE unit DOES offer the door panel option. www.subzero.com shows all the options. www.subzero.com/subzero/600series.asp 36 inches wide, 42 inches wide, and 48 inches wide all with door panel options. 600 series models use less power than a 100 watt incandescent lamp. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
On Mon, 08 May 2006 10:30:23 GMT, Robert Gammon
wrote: miamicuse wrote: The inspector told me a comparable one to the size I have will run around $12000. But it will be SS finish and I have to figure out how to redo the Who is this inspector? Inspector Clouseau? Never take too seriously what just one guy says. wood finish. Thanks, MC Other models in the sub zero line DO come with door panel kits that allow you to attach the SAME door panels and trim that are used on all other cabinets in the room. It may just be that for THIS size, the only choice is SS. |
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Should I repair a 30 year old SubZero refrigerator?
replying to m Ransley, cheeto81 wrote:
according to energy star, a new fridge would only say $700 over 5 years, and a new subzero costs $10k so you never make your money back in energy savings -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...or-108323-.htm |
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