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I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.
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Malam wrote:
I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.


Hi...

Don't feel bad; had a 16 year old visit last summer. Looked
at my turntable and asked if that was what they used to
call a record player in the old days

Seriously doubt that you have an electronic problem at
all. Bet if you'll just lift the turntable off (sometimes
a C clip in the center) you'll find that the idler is
wanting cleaning. Perhaps a bit of lubrication as well.

Take care.

Ken

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Malam wrote:
I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync.

The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds.

SNIP)

you may need to clean or replace:
-speed selector switch/es
-speed adjust pot

I have had a sony and another pioneer with this problem.
regards, Ben

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Malam wrote:
I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.


Hi...

Don't feel bad; had a 16 year old visit last summer. Looked
at my turntable and asked if that was what they used to
call a record player in the old days

Seriously doubt that you have an electronic problem at
all. Bet if you'll just lift the turntable off (sometimes
a C clip in the center) you'll find that the idler is
wanting cleaning. Perhaps a bit of lubrication as well.

Take care.

Ken


Extremely doubtful this model even uses an idler wheel.

Mark Z.



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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam
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I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.



This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock.
I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC
ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the
pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back
the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the
ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and
if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained.
Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so
I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck


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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:48:17 GMT, Chuck wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam
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I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.



This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock.
I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC
ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the
pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back
the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the
ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and
if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained.
Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so
I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck


Yes, you are correct, the unit is crystall controlled. Before I take
it apart tomorrow, which is the pickup coil ? The platter has a
checkered kind of groove that works with a light (strobe light?). The
lines along the edge of the platter lines up when the speed is in
sync. The out of sync problem does not show up all the time, but when
it does it stays for a while.

What do I check for with the power supply that a handheld voltmeter
can be used for.

Thanks.
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:27:34 -0500, Malam
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:48:17 GMT, Chuck wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam
wrote:

I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.



This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock.
I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC
ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the
pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back
the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the
ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and
if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained.
Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so
I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck


Yes, you are correct, the unit is crystall controlled. Before I take
it apart tomorrow, which is the pickup coil ? The platter has a
checkered kind of groove that works with a light (strobe light?). The
lines along the edge of the platter lines up when the speed is in
sync. The out of sync problem does not show up all the time, but when
it does it stays for a while.

What do I check for with the power supply that a handheld voltmeter
can be used for.

Thanks.



I thought the PS-X6 had magnetic material on the inside of the platter
rim. The pickup coil was a square object with a wire running to it
that sits inside the platter rim. I could be wrong about this
particular model having this design. To test the capacitors in the
power supply, you need an esr meter and/ or an oscilloscope. I don't
know how hard it is to get one of these serviced these days. Most
turntable technicians have gone into other professions. Chuck
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:44:58 GMT, Chuck wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:27:34 -0500, Malam
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:48:17 GMT, Chuck wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam
wrote:

I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The
table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at
45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be
appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy
with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this.

Thanks.


This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock.
I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC
ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the
pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back
the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the
ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and
if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained.
Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so
I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck


Yes, you are correct, the unit is crystall controlled. Before I take
it apart tomorrow, which is the pickup coil ? The platter has a
checkered kind of groove that works with a light (strobe light?). The
lines along the edge of the platter lines up when the speed is in
sync. The out of sync problem does not show up all the time, but when
it does it stays for a while.

What do I check for with the power supply that a handheld voltmeter
can be used for.

Thanks.



I thought the PS-X6 had magnetic material on the inside of the platter
rim.


The rim of the platter has a magnetic ? material it a brown coating
about a quarter of an inch wide strips separated by a space of a
quarter inch. There is a neon light that sits on the main base and
when the speed is in sync, the strips on the platter appears to be
stationary. More like a strobe test light.
On my unit though, as soon as you turn the power on, even before the
platter begins to turn, you can see that the strobe light is
flickering instead of a steady light.


that sits inside the platter rim. I could be wrong about this
particular model having this design. To test the capacitors in the
power supply, you need an esr meter and/ or an oscilloscope. I don't
know how hard it is to get one of these serviced these days. Most
turntable technicians have gone into other professions. Chuck


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Malam wrotesnip)
The rim of the platter has a magnetic ? material it a brown coating
about a quarter of an inch wide strips separated by a space of a
quarter inch. There is a neon light that sits on the main base and
when the speed is in sync, the strips on the platter appears to be
stationary. More like a strobe test light.
On my unit though, as soon as you turn the power on, even before the
platter begins to turn, you can see that the strobe light is
flickering instead of a steady light.


dont want to get on your back or anything, but you *did* check the
speed switches or adjustment pot, didnt you? ;-)

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Ben

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Malam wrotesnip)
The rim of the platter has a magnetic ? material it a brown coating
about a quarter of an inch wide strips separated by a space of a
quarter inch. There is a neon light that sits on the main base and
when the speed is in sync, the strips on the platter appears to be
stationary. More like a strobe test light.
On my unit though, as soon as you turn the power on, even before the
platter begins to turn, you can see that the strobe light is
flickering instead of a steady light.


dont want to get on your back or anything, but you *did* check the
speed switches or adjustment pot, didnt you? ;-)



He said the strobe light is flickering, all it is is a NE-2 neon glow lamp
that flickers with the 60 (or 50)Hz power line. When they wear out they
start to flicker erratically, just replace the glow lamp and you should be
good to go.

FYI in this application it's called a stroboscope.




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I also have a Sony PS-X6 turntable inherited from my parents along
with a nice record collection. I haven't been able to figure out how
to get the arm to go down to the record. There is a blocking
mechanism that prevents lowering the arm to the record. Can someone
help with this? Thanks!

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The "blocking mechanism" that keeps the arm from going down could be that
the "CUE" (arm lift) lever is in the "up" position.
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I also have a Sony PS-X6 turntable inherited from my parents along
with a nice record collection. I haven't been able to figure out how
to get the arm to go down to the record. There is a blocking
mechanism that prevents lowering the arm to the record. Can someone
help with this? Thanks!



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"suzanneg45" wrote in
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I also have a Sony PS-X6 turntable inherited from my parents along
with a nice record collection. I haven't been able to figure out how
to get the arm to go down to the record. There is a blocking
mechanism that prevents lowering the arm to the record. Can someone
help with this? Thanks!


1. There could be an actual malfunction of the player.

2. The rubber mat must be aligned so the holes match the holes of the metal
platter. This is so the player can sense record size auto,
matically.

Some Sony models were prone to bad 100uF caps which caused a variety of
malfunctions; usually motors would not run, or there would be system control
issues.

Mark Z.


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