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Sony PS-X6 Record Player
I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!).
The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. |
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Malam wrote: I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. Hi... Don't feel bad; had a 16 year old visit last summer. Looked at my turntable and asked if that was what they used to call a record player in the old days Seriously doubt that you have an electronic problem at all. Bet if you'll just lift the turntable off (sometimes a C clip in the center) you'll find that the idler is wanting cleaning. Perhaps a bit of lubrication as well. Take care. Ken |
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Malam wrote:
I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. SNIP) you may need to clean or replace: -speed selector switch/es -speed adjust pot I have had a sony and another pioneer with this problem. regards, Ben |
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"Ken Weitzel" wrote in message news:GXtTd.496759$6l.17702@pd7tw2no... Malam wrote: I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. Hi... Don't feel bad; had a 16 year old visit last summer. Looked at my turntable and asked if that was what they used to call a record player in the old days Seriously doubt that you have an electronic problem at all. Bet if you'll just lift the turntable off (sometimes a C clip in the center) you'll find that the idler is wanting cleaning. Perhaps a bit of lubrication as well. Take care. Ken Extremely doubtful this model even uses an idler wheel. Mark Z. |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam
wrote: I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock. I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained. Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck |
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:48:17 GMT, Chuck wrote:
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam wrote: I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock. I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained. Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck Yes, you are correct, the unit is crystall controlled. Before I take it apart tomorrow, which is the pickup coil ? The platter has a checkered kind of groove that works with a light (strobe light?). The lines along the edge of the platter lines up when the speed is in sync. The out of sync problem does not show up all the time, but when it does it stays for a while. What do I check for with the power supply that a handheld voltmeter can be used for. Thanks. |
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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:27:34 -0500, Malam
wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:48:17 GMT, Chuck wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam wrote: I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock. I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained. Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck Yes, you are correct, the unit is crystall controlled. Before I take it apart tomorrow, which is the pickup coil ? The platter has a checkered kind of groove that works with a light (strobe light?). The lines along the edge of the platter lines up when the speed is in sync. The out of sync problem does not show up all the time, but when it does it stays for a while. What do I check for with the power supply that a handheld voltmeter can be used for. Thanks. I thought the PS-X6 had magnetic material on the inside of the platter rim. The pickup coil was a square object with a wire running to it that sits inside the platter rim. I could be wrong about this particular model having this design. To test the capacitors in the power supply, you need an esr meter and/ or an oscilloscope. I don't know how hard it is to get one of these serviced these days. Most turntable technicians have gone into other professions. Chuck |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:44:58 GMT, Chuck wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 16:27:34 -0500, Malam wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 17:48:17 GMT, Chuck wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:27:59 -0500, Malam wrote: I have a Sony PS-X6 Record Player ( A turntable - yes, I am old!). The turntable has a strobe light to show if the speed is in sync. The table is turning out of sync. Its like the speed is varying both at 45 and at 33 rpm speeds. Please any help on this problem will be appreciated. I don't have a Sony shop close by, but I am a bit handy with electronics and I hope with some help I can fix this. Thanks. This turntable is crystal controlled so it isn't obtaining servo lock. I would check the power supply voltages and for the presence of AC ripple in addition to the other comments. Also, the position of the pick up coil at the platter lip was critical. If it has moved back the turntable will speed up too much to lock. I believe one of the ics and the hall effect devices failed occasionally on this unit, and if the inner platter edge is scratched, speed lock can't be obtained. Unfortunately, I haven't worked on one of these since the mid 80's so I can't remember which ic was failure prone. Chuck Yes, you are correct, the unit is crystall controlled. Before I take it apart tomorrow, which is the pickup coil ? The platter has a checkered kind of groove that works with a light (strobe light?). The lines along the edge of the platter lines up when the speed is in sync. The out of sync problem does not show up all the time, but when it does it stays for a while. What do I check for with the power supply that a handheld voltmeter can be used for. Thanks. I thought the PS-X6 had magnetic material on the inside of the platter rim. The rim of the platter has a magnetic ? material it a brown coating about a quarter of an inch wide strips separated by a space of a quarter inch. There is a neon light that sits on the main base and when the speed is in sync, the strips on the platter appears to be stationary. More like a strobe test light. On my unit though, as soon as you turn the power on, even before the platter begins to turn, you can see that the strobe light is flickering instead of a steady light. that sits inside the platter rim. I could be wrong about this particular model having this design. To test the capacitors in the power supply, you need an esr meter and/ or an oscilloscope. I don't know how hard it is to get one of these serviced these days. Most turntable technicians have gone into other professions. Chuck |
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Malam wrotesnip) The rim of the platter has a magnetic ? material it a brown coating about a quarter of an inch wide strips separated by a space of a quarter inch. There is a neon light that sits on the main base and when the speed is in sync, the strips on the platter appears to be stationary. More like a strobe test light. On my unit though, as soon as you turn the power on, even before the platter begins to turn, you can see that the strobe light is flickering instead of a steady light. dont want to get on your back or anything, but you *did* check the speed switches or adjustment pot, didnt you? ;-) - Ben |
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"b" wrote in message oups.com... Malam wrotesnip) The rim of the platter has a magnetic ? material it a brown coating about a quarter of an inch wide strips separated by a space of a quarter inch. There is a neon light that sits on the main base and when the speed is in sync, the strips on the platter appears to be stationary. More like a strobe test light. On my unit though, as soon as you turn the power on, even before the platter begins to turn, you can see that the strobe light is flickering instead of a steady light. dont want to get on your back or anything, but you *did* check the speed switches or adjustment pot, didnt you? ;-) He said the strobe light is flickering, all it is is a NE-2 neon glow lamp that flickers with the 60 (or 50)Hz power line. When they wear out they start to flicker erratically, just replace the glow lamp and you should be good to go. FYI in this application it's called a stroboscope. |
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I also have a Sony PS-X6 turntable inherited from my parents along
with a nice record collection. I haven't been able to figure out how to get the arm to go down to the record. There is a blocking mechanism that prevents lowering the arm to the record. Can someone help with this? Thanks! |
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The "blocking mechanism" that keeps the arm from going down could be that
the "CUE" (arm lift) lever is in the "up" position. -- Best Regards, Daniel Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "suzanneg45" wrote in message ... I also have a Sony PS-X6 turntable inherited from my parents along with a nice record collection. I haven't been able to figure out how to get the arm to go down to the record. There is a blocking mechanism that prevents lowering the arm to the record. Can someone help with this? Thanks! |
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"suzanneg45" wrote in message ... I also have a Sony PS-X6 turntable inherited from my parents along with a nice record collection. I haven't been able to figure out how to get the arm to go down to the record. There is a blocking mechanism that prevents lowering the arm to the record. Can someone help with this? Thanks! 1. There could be an actual malfunction of the player. 2. The rubber mat must be aligned so the holes match the holes of the metal platter. This is so the player can sense record size auto, matically. Some Sony models were prone to bad 100uF caps which caused a variety of malfunctions; usually motors would not run, or there would be system control issues. Mark Z. |
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