Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing rather than
trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW: The information is
available via the Panasonic Service Manuals available from Panasonic
Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been into the
service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at least I can watch
a normal colored television until I can get the tv in for repair. The off
and on situation only happened one day. Since then, the television has
worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and coloring was all off and I tried
to do it through the main setup but it wouldn't work...so I entered the
service mode and tried to match it to what I THOUGHT was my identical set
downstairs. Turns out..they aren't the same model and I messed up the
codes. Need to reset them. I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but
wasn't able to get through. And all the repair shops keep it hush
hush...they act as if they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one
area...I know I can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes,
most definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there runs
into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any strong
person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt nearly
dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait. But, a nice
picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news
Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing rather
than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW: The
information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals available from
Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...

Or pay for a in-residence service call, telling the technician exactly what
you have done and the exact model and chassis numbers. Then bite the bullet
regarding the cost. That way, if indeed it needs in-shop-service the service
company can supply transportation for the set, at nominal fee, and then
repair the set, again at nominal fees. Sorry Gov. Don't have the slightest
remorse regarding this sort of thing. Customer induced problems can really
fustrate professionals in any field of service. Be it doctoring, automotive
repair, et al fin. Cheers
"x" wrote in message
...
I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been into
the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at least I can
watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv in for repair.
The off and on situation only happened one day. Since then, the television
has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and coloring was all off and I
tried to do it through the main setup but it wouldn't work...so I entered
the service mode and tried to match it to what I THOUGHT was my identical
set downstairs. Turns out..they aren't the same model and I messed up the
codes. Need to reset them. I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but
wasn't able to get through. And all the repair shops keep it hush
hush...they act as if they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one
area...I know I can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes,
most definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there runs
into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any strong
person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt nearly
dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait. But, a nice
picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news
Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing rather
than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW: The
information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals available from
Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...

Authorized Servicers for Panasonic and other manufactures get the
service manuals and service training at a cost. They pay a yearly
subscription fee for the manuals. They pay for technical manuals and
training. You want this information for free?



"Art" wrote in message ...
Or pay for a in-residence service call, telling the technician exactly what
you have done and the exact model and chassis numbers. Then bite the bullet
regarding the cost. That way, if indeed it needs in-shop-service the service
company can supply transportation for the set, at nominal fee, and then
repair the set, again at nominal fees. Sorry Gov. Don't have the slightest
remorse regarding this sort of thing. Customer induced problems can really
fustrate professionals in any field of service. Be it doctoring, automotive
repair, et al fin. Cheers
"x" wrote in message
...
I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been into
the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at least I can
watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv in for repair.
The off and on situation only happened one day. Since then, the television
has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and coloring was all off and I
tried to do it through the main setup but it wouldn't work...so I entered
the service mode and tried to match it to what I THOUGHT was my identical
set downstairs. Turns out..they aren't the same model and I messed up the
codes. Need to reset them. I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but
wasn't able to get through. And all the repair shops keep it hush
hush...they act as if they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one
area...I know I can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes,
most definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there runs
into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any strong
person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt nearly
dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait. But, a nice
picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news
Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing rather
than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW: The
information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals available from
Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...

"x" wrote in
:

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been
into the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at
least I can watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv
in for repair. The off and on situation only happened one day. Since
then, the television has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and
coloring was all off and I tried to do it through the main setup but
it wouldn't work...so I entered the service mode and tried to match it
to what I THOUGHT was my identical set downstairs. Turns out..they
aren't the same model and I messed up the codes. Need to reset them.
I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but wasn't able to get
through. And all the repair shops keep it hush hush...they act as if
they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one area...I know I
can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes, most
definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there
runs into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any
strong person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt
nearly dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait.
But, a nice picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news
Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing
rather than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW:
The information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals
available from Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...







Rebalancing the color isn't as easy as you make it sound. Copying the
settings from another unit won't help either. This is why service codes
are kept from end users or inexperienced techs. You're a perfect example
of the damage that can be done. A service code in your possesion will
probably cause more damage than good. What other settings will you
tamper with or corrupt? You've taken a probable simple repair and
seriously complicated it. You're next step may render the unit
unrepairable. The service manual will give you the code which I strongly
recommend you buy. The price is considerably cheaper than the damage
you'll do. It'll also educate you on what NOT to do......again.
Good luck,
Chris


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Well Said Chris!! Too bad many consumers realize these facts only after the
scenario explained in this particular post and it's threads.
"Chris" wrote in message
. 97.133...
"x" wrote in
:

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been
into the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at
least I can watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv
in for repair. The off and on situation only happened one day. Since
then, the television has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and
coloring was all off and I tried to do it through the main setup but
it wouldn't work...so I entered the service mode and tried to match it
to what I THOUGHT was my identical set downstairs. Turns out..they
aren't the same model and I messed up the codes. Need to reset them.
I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but wasn't able to get
through. And all the repair shops keep it hush hush...they act as if
they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one area...I know I
can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes, most
definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there
runs into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any
strong person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt
nearly dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait.
But, a nice picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news
Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing
rather than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW:
The information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals
available from Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...







Rebalancing the color isn't as easy as you make it sound. Copying the
settings from another unit won't help either. This is why service codes
are kept from end users or inexperienced techs. You're a perfect example
of the damage that can be done. A service code in your possesion will
probably cause more damage than good. What other settings will you
tamper with or corrupt? You've taken a probable simple repair and
seriously complicated it. You're next step may render the unit
unrepairable. The service manual will give you the code which I strongly
recommend you buy. The price is considerably cheaper than the damage
you'll do. It'll also educate you on what NOT to do......again.
Good luck,
Chris


--
Remove "NS" from the e-mail address to respond.

Thanks for the advice everyone. You are correct that I did more damage and
could make it worse if I were to continue without professional help.
However, in the beginning, didn't most of you want to get your hands on
experience and didn't you learn some of what you have through trial and
error? That's all I was trying to do. The way I became a good computer
tech is because in the beginning, I knew nothing about computers. And when
something went wrong, I didn't have the money to have it repared. So, I
learned through trial and error how to repair computers...often repairing my
own mistakes. Now, I am able to make the repairs that a lot of
professionals cannot. I was just hoping to be able to do the same with the
television. Never hurts to learn something new. In this case, I shall give
up and just return the tv to the thrift store that I purchased it from.
Investing more money into a tv that I purchased used, is not the way I
choose to spend the few bucks I have. I have a child who could benefit from
any funds that I have rather than a hobby.

Just a little note. I would imagine that a lot of people come to newsgroups
and forums for the same reason I did. There are a lot of people these days
that do not have extra bucks to spend and they try to make do with what they
have, including doing their own repair when they can. When I grew up, I was
raised by a Mother...no man in the house. She had to learn to do all the
fix-it-up jobs that most men do around the house. She did the car repair,
roof repair, leaky faucets, etc. I'm in the same boat she is. And you know
what? I feel glad that I am not an incapable person. I'll give up on the
tv because it's getting to the point that it's not worth it...but in the
future, think about your response to people. People are here for many
different reasons. Some are here to LEARN. And there are some people who
actually enjoy helping others learn when they can. There was a day of
bartering systems and helping your neighbor. It may not be a part of this
day and age, but it's still a part of me and who I am.

Take care everyone.




"Art" wrote in message
...
Well Said Chris!! Too bad many consumers realize these facts only after
the scenario explained in this particular post and it's threads.
"Chris" wrote in message
. 97.133...
"x" wrote in
:

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been
into the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at
least I can watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv
in for repair. The off and on situation only happened one day. Since
then, the television has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and
coloring was all off and I tried to do it through the main setup but
it wouldn't work...so I entered the service mode and tried to match it
to what I THOUGHT was my identical set downstairs. Turns out..they
aren't the same model and I messed up the codes. Need to reset them.
I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but wasn't able to get
through. And all the repair shops keep it hush hush...they act as if
they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one area...I know I
can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes, most
definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there
runs into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any
strong person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt
nearly dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait.
But, a nice picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing
rather than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW:
The information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals
available from Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...







Rebalancing the color isn't as easy as you make it sound. Copying the
settings from another unit won't help either. This is why service codes
are kept from end users or inexperienced techs. You're a perfect example
of the damage that can be done. A service code in your possesion will
probably cause more damage than good. What other settings will you
tamper with or corrupt? You've taken a probable simple repair and
seriously complicated it. You're next step may render the unit
unrepairable. The service manual will give you the code which I strongly
recommend you buy. The price is considerably cheaper than the damage
you'll do. It'll also educate you on what NOT to do......again.
Good luck,
Chris


--
Remove "NS" from the e-mail address to respond.

I want to apologize, my post sounded like a chastisement and a plea. It was
not meant to be either. You gave your professional opinion and I appreciate
it. I think I was actually expecting something more neighborly is all...I'm
from the country. ;-)

Have a good day all! :-)


"Art" wrote in message
...
Well Said Chris!! Too bad many consumers realize these facts only after
the scenario explained in this particular post and it's threads.
"Chris" wrote in message
. 97.133...
"x" wrote in
:

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been
into the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at
least I can watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv
in for repair. The off and on situation only happened one day. Since
then, the television has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and
coloring was all off and I tried to do it through the main setup but
it wouldn't work...so I entered the service mode and tried to match it
to what I THOUGHT was my identical set downstairs. Turns out..they
aren't the same model and I messed up the codes. Need to reset them.
I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but wasn't able to get
through. And all the repair shops keep it hush hush...they act as if
they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one area...I know I
can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes, most
definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there
runs into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any
strong person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt
nearly dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait.
But, a nice picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing
rather than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW:
The information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals
available from Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...







Rebalancing the color isn't as easy as you make it sound. Copying the
settings from another unit won't help either. This is why service codes
are kept from end users or inexperienced techs. You're a perfect example
of the damage that can be done. A service code in your possesion will
probably cause more damage than good. What other settings will you
tamper with or corrupt? You've taken a probable simple repair and
seriously complicated it. You're next step may render the unit
unrepairable. The service manual will give you the code which I strongly
recommend you buy. The price is considerably cheaper than the damage
you'll do. It'll also educate you on what NOT to do......again.
Good luck,
Chris


--
Remove "NS" from the e-mail address to respond.

"x" wrote in message
...
| Thanks for the advice everyone. You are correct that I did more damage
and
| could make it worse if I were to continue without professional help.
....
| Just a little note. I would imagine that a lot of people come to
newsgroups
| and forums for the same reason I did. There are a lot of people these
days
| that do not have extra bucks to spend and they try to make do with what
they
| have, including doing their own repair when they can....

Times have changed - for the better? Look in a public library for books on
how to repair TV sets etc. At least you'll have some idea of how to do it -
or whether you should try.

N

Not a bother, farm background with all the literal B#$#$ S6262 to shovel.
Many decades removed tho, for good or bad reasons.
Check out the posts by Sam Goldwasser, he has a very good site with all
kinds of information regarding servicing and repairs. May be of definite
assistance in the future to you.
There is no problem posting to this group for relevant information, may
consider doing so before having to shovel too much, Eh. Cheers, hope to
see you again on these N/G.
"x" wrote in message
news
I want to apologize, my post sounded like a chastisement and a plea. It
was not meant to be either. You gave your professional opinion and I
appreciate it. I think I was actually expecting something more neighborly
is all...I'm from the country. ;-)

Have a good day all! :-)


"Art" wrote in message
...
Well Said Chris!! Too bad many consumers realize these facts only after
the scenario explained in this particular post and it's threads.
"Chris" wrote in message
. 97.133...
"x" wrote in
:

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been
into the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at
least I can watch a normal colored television until I can get the tv
in for repair. The off and on situation only happened one day. Since
then, the television has worked fine. Problem is...the tinting and
coloring was all off and I tried to do it through the main setup but
it wouldn't work...so I entered the service mode and tried to match it
to what I THOUGHT was my identical set downstairs. Turns out..they
aren't the same model and I messed up the codes. Need to reset them.
I tried to get the codes through Panasonic but wasn't able to get
through. And all the repair shops keep it hush hush...they act as if
they never even HEARD of service codes. This is one area...I know I
can fix myself if I just had the codes. The other...yes, most
definitely I will have to take to a shop for repair but I have to wait
until I can find a STRONG person to put it in my car first. And there
runs into 2 problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any
strong person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt
nearly dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to wait.
But, a nice picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing
rather than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu?? BTW:
The information is available via the Panasonic Service Manuals
available from Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...







Rebalancing the color isn't as easy as you make it sound. Copying the
settings from another unit won't help either. This is why service codes
are kept from end users or inexperienced techs. You're a perfect example
of the damage that can be done. A service code in your possesion will
probably cause more damage than good. What other settings will you
tamper with or corrupt? You've taken a probable simple repair and
seriously complicated it. You're next step may render the unit
unrepairable. The service manual will give you the code which I strongly
recommend you buy. The price is considerably cheaper than the damage
you'll do. It'll also educate you on what NOT to do......again.
Good luck,
Chris


--
Remove "NS" from the e-mail address to respond.

Hmmmmmm.
What are you trying to learn? Electronics should be learned from
scratch, not a complicated circuit like a tv. And if you know
electronics then you should know to have some kind of reference, like a
service manual, to go by. I have more than 20 years experience and still
buy service manuals especially when venturing into new territory. Even
in computer repair you know to back up or make note of what you're
changing. You did neither. Hands on experience is great when you have an
idea of what you're working with. I have no problem helping those who
are sincere in learning. I'll even walk you through the circuits step by
step if needed. But judging by your approach, I would have to say that
you're looking for a quick fix for what appears to be a simple appliance
fouled up by pressing a few buttons. Not so simple, is it? Give us a
little more credit. We're not that stupid. I appologize if I sound harsh
but I have strong doubts in your statement of learning the field.
This forum offers a lot. It's a knowledge base of electronics. We
understand that techs will sometimes really mess things up. Sometimes in
really stupid ways. These situations are easy to pick out and the tech
who's posting usually knows that it was stupid. It's a hard learned
lesson. I don't see a credible lesson learned here. Only a situation
where the wrong person got into the wrong area of a digitally aligned
set. Sounds like an average customer to me. Sorry.
As for your upbringing, sounds like a walk in the park compared to mine.
But that was then and today is now. Get over it.





"x" wrote in
:

Thanks for the advice everyone. You are correct that I did more
damage and could make it worse if I were to continue without
professional help. However, in the beginning, didn't most of you want
to get your hands on experience and didn't you learn some of what you
have through trial and error? That's all I was trying to do. The way
I became a good computer tech is because in the beginning, I knew
nothing about computers. And when something went wrong, I didn't have
the money to have it repared. So, I learned through trial and error
how to repair computers...often repairing my own mistakes. Now, I am
able to make the repairs that a lot of professionals cannot. I was
just hoping to be able to do the same with the television. Never
hurts to learn something new. In this case, I shall give up and just
return the tv to the thrift store that I purchased it from. Investing
more money into a tv that I purchased used, is not the way I choose to
spend the few bucks I have. I have a child who could benefit from any
funds that I have rather than a hobby.

Just a little note. I would imagine that a lot of people come to
newsgroups and forums for the same reason I did. There are a lot of
people these days that do not have extra bucks to spend and they try
to make do with what they have, including doing their own repair when
they can. When I grew up, I was raised by a Mother...no man in the
house. She had to learn to do all the fix-it-up jobs that most men do
around the house. She did the car repair, roof repair, leaky faucets,
etc. I'm in the same boat she is. And you know what? I feel glad
that I am not an incapable person. I'll give up on the tv because
it's getting to the point that it's not worth it...but in the future,
think about your response to people. People are here for many
different reasons. Some are here to LEARN. And there are some people
who actually enjoy helping others learn when they can. There was a
day of bartering systems and helping your neighbor. It may not be a
part of this day and age, but it's still a part of me and who I am.

Take care everyone.




"Art" wrote in message
...
Well Said Chris!! Too bad many consumers realize these facts only
after the scenario explained in this particular post and it's
threads. "Chris" wrote in message
. 97.133...
"x" wrote in
:

I will get the other fixed...but the problem is...I've already been
into the service mode and need to undo what I've already done so at
least I can watch a normal colored television until I can get the
tv in for repair. The off and on situation only happened one day.
Since then, the television has worked fine. Problem is...the
tinting and coloring was all off and I tried to do it through the
main setup but it wouldn't work...so I entered the service mode and
tried to match it to what I THOUGHT was my identical set
downstairs. Turns out..they aren't the same model and I messed up
the codes. Need to reset them. I tried to get the codes through
Panasonic but wasn't able to get through. And all the repair shops
keep it hush hush...they act as if they never even HEARD of service
codes. This is one area...I know I can fix myself if I just had
the codes. The other...yes, most definitely I will have to take to
a shop for repair but I have to wait until I can find a STRONG
person to put it in my car first. And there runs into 2
problems...1, my car is in the shop, 2, I don't know any strong
person in the area. The person who carried the tv into the apt
nearly dropped it..it was too much for him. So, I just have to
wait. But, a nice picture would be very nice.
"Art" wrote in message
news Maybe you should repair the actual problems you are experiencing
rather than trying to fubar the set with the service only menu??
BTW: The information is available via the Panasonic Service
Manuals available from Panasonic Corporation at nominal cost.
"x" wrote in message
...







Rebalancing the color isn't as easy as you make it sound. Copying
the settings from another unit won't help either. This is why
service codes are kept from end users or inexperienced techs. You're
a perfect example of the damage that can be done. A service code in
your possesion will probably cause more damage than good. What other
settings will you tamper with or corrupt? You've taken a probable
simple repair and seriously complicated it. You're next step may
render the unit unrepairable. The service manual will give you the
code which I strongly recommend you buy. The price is considerably
cheaper than the damage you'll do. It'll also educate you on what
NOT to do......again. Good luck,
Chris


--
Remove "NS" from the e-mail address to respond.

Well said Chris...

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