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Dishwasher revival
I have a portable Whirlpool dishwasher that hasn't been needed in 10
years. If I use it right out of storage is it likely to leak from dried out and cracked nylon couplings or something? -- |
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On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 10:57:32 AM UTC-8, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
I have a portable Whirlpool dishwasher that hasn't been needed in 10 years. If I use it right out of storage is it likely to leak from dried out and cracked nylon couplings or something? Nylon is fine when dry, but ten years is likely to leave the hoses in poor condition (portable dishwashers usually have flex hoses to the plumbing attach point). Those aren't hard to replace, but if you want 'em to look pretty, get a factory-replacement part with the right crimps. As for 'likely', I'd say plug it in and find out. The external layer of the hoses might look cracked, but that ISN"T the layer that holds the water pressure. If youi can do the first test outdoors, or over a drain, and use a GCFI receptacle for power, faults can't hurt you. But maybe you don't want the best dishes in the tub when testing. |
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On 2019/02/23 10:57 a.m., Tom Del Rosso wrote:
I have a portable Whirlpool dishwasher that hasn't been needed in 10 years. If I use it right out of storage is it likely to leak from dried out and cracked nylon couplings or something? Also it is likely the door seals are dried out and it will happily leak all over the place. I'd test it outside instead of in my kitchen... John :-#)# |
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Generally, those gaskets are symetrical.
It might be fixed by mounting the gaset upside down. The bottom is more compressed than the top ans thus can leak. John Robertson a écrit le 23/02/2019 Ã* 23:10Â*: On 2019/02/23 10:57 a.m., Tom Del Rosso wrote: I have a portable Whirlpool dishwasher that hasn't been needed in 10 years.Â* If I use it right out of storage is it likely to leak from dried out and cracked nylon couplings or something? Also it is likely the door seals are dried out and it will happily leak all over the place. I'd test it outside instead of in my kitchen... John :-#)# |
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On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 10:33:38 +0100, Look165
wrote: Generally, those gaskets are symetrical. It might be fixed by mounting the gaset upside down. The bottom is more compressed than the top ans thus can leak. John Robertson a écrit le 23/02/2019 à 23:10*: On 2019/02/23 10:57 a.m., Tom Del Rosso wrote: I have a portable Whirlpool dishwasher that hasn't been needed in 10 years.* If I use it right out of storage is it likely to leak from dried out and cracked nylon couplings or something? Also it is likely the door seals are dried out and it will happily leak all over the place. I'd test it outside instead of in my kitchen... John :-#)# I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein shorted out the ''control card''. I now find I can live happily without one, no doubt saving heaps on power & water. Consider this option unless you run a boarding house. My front-load washing machine brochure advises to leave the front door open or ajar between washes to save on seal wear. |
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On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:
I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein shorted out the ''control card''. I now find I can live happily without one, no doubt saving heaps on power & water. Consider this option unless you run a boarding house. Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, and about 4.4 gallons for 'scrub-the-paint-off-a-board' mode - which we seldom use. And, as there is no direct heating element, there are no worries about melting anything or anyone getting burnt. It has the capacity to make its own hot water, although if the domestic hot water is enough (150F), it will not. As most of us do not keep our domestic water at 150F, that is also a useful feature. We do not have to scrape dishes, anything softer than a hard nut and smaller than walnut is fine, and crusty eggs, pasta sauce and similar are no challenge at all. Those hard nuts will simply wind up in the pan-filter, no clogs. Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing. Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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On Monday, 25 February 2019 12:56:00 UTC, wrote:
On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote: I had a dishwasher disaster when the steam therein shorted out the ''control card''. I now find I can live happily without one, no doubt saving heaps on power & water. 'no doubt' usually means a person hasn't worked it out & doesn't know. Consider this option unless you run a boarding house. Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, and about 4.4 gallons for 'scrub-the-paint-off-a-board' mode - which we seldom use. And, as there is no direct heating element, there are no worries about melting anything or anyone getting burnt. It has the capacity to make its own hot water, although if the domestic hot water is enough (150F), it will not. As most of us do not keep our domestic water at 150F, that is also a useful feature. We do not have to scrape dishes, anything softer than a hard nut and smaller than walnut is fine, and crusty eggs, pasta sauce and similar are no challenge at all. Those hard nuts will simply wind up in the pan-filter, no clogs. Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing. Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA Great for modern stuff too, just not relays or speakers etc. I calculated a few years ago that handwashing could save around 40p/hr compared to using a machine. If anyone wants to work for that much, what can one say. NT |
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On Monday, 25 February 2019 16:44:48 UTC, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/02/25 4:55 a.m., wrote: On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 3:54:24 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote: Per the literature, our Bosch uses 2.4 gallons of water for the typical load, ... Also useful for sterilizing radio chassis and other equipment that has been 'moused' or worse. Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine? Some folk have been known to wash bog seats in them. Those are the ones that don't stay married. |
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On 2/25/19 10:44 AM, John Robertson wrote:
Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine? I have three dishwashers. One in the kitchen at the house, one in the kitchen in the "mother in law" apartment behind the house, and one at the shop. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
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On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine? John: It is a division of labor that has worked now for very nearly 39 years, 36 of them married. I am in charge of appliance O&M and their proper function. My wife is a user of same, and as long as they operate smoothly when she needs them, she could care less on the throughput. As we are on a municipal sewer with the means to control phosphorous, and chelate heavy metals, I have no qualms about using conventional detergents. Which, in turn, contain enough bleach as to render any creepy-crawlies dead.. So, when she needs the Dishwasher, the inside (stainless) is pristine and odor-free. Our shared joke is that the hobby keeps me close to home, does not eat, and is cheaper than another woman. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 3:22:33 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 11:44:48 AM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote: Not if you want to stay married. Or do you have a separate machine for cleaning electronics gear than the kitchen machine? John: It is a division of labor that has worked now for very nearly 39 years, 36 of them married. I am in charge of appliance O&M and their proper function. My wife is a user of same, and as long as they operate smoothly when she needs them, she could care less on the throughput. As we are on a municipal sewer with the means to control phosphorous, and chelate heavy metals, I have no qualms about using conventional detergents.. Which, in turn, contain enough bleach as to render any creepy-crawlies dead. So, when she needs the Dishwasher, the inside (stainless) is pristine and odor-free. Our shared joke is that the hobby keeps me close to home, does not eat, and is cheaper than another woman. You must have some high falootin' women round your parts Peter.. |
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On Monday, February 25, 2019 at 3:26:16 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
You must have some high falootin' women round your parts Peter.. I would like to think so! Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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Dishwasher revival
That is all true -- except that the common detergent packs or liquids are extremely caustic. Much more so than the liquids used for hand-washing dishes. Something to consider.
Terry Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing. |
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:37:45 -0800 (PST), Terry
Schwartz wrote: That is all true -- except that the common detergent packs or liquids are extremely caustic. Much more so than the liquids used for hand-washing dishes. Something to consider. Terry Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing. Yes, I live alone in unalloyed bliss. Additionally, I can get by on but one shower/week (except during heat waves and the odd bone-chilling winter's day.) |
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On 28/2/19 12:15 pm, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:37:45 -0800 (PST), Terry Schwartz wrote: That is all true -- except that the common detergent packs or liquids are extremely caustic. Much more so than the liquids used for hand-washing dishes. Something to consider. Terry Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing. Yes, I live alone in unalloyed bliss. Additionally, I can get by on but one shower/week (except during heat waves and the odd bone-chilling winter's day.) This could be why you live alone. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:31:14 +1100, Clifford Heath
wrote: On 28/2/19 12:15 pm, Peter Jason wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 05:37:45 -0800 (PST), Terry Schwartz wrote: That is all true -- except that the common detergent packs or liquids are extremely caustic. Much more so than the liquids used for hand-washing dishes. Something to consider. Terry Point being that a well-designed unit will get dishes cleaner, using less water, less energy and fewer chemicals than hand-washing unless one is incredibly efficient about it. The dynamics change if one lives alone, or has on-site sanitation, tankless water heater and any of several other conditions that mitigate towards hand-washing. Yes, I live alone in unalloyed bliss. Additionally, I can get by on but one shower/week (except during heat waves and the odd bone-chilling winter's day.) This could be why you live alone. I don't care. Washing too often leaches the skin of natural oils and protective fauna. A occasional cat-lick at the sink keeps one clean & healthy. Don't believe everything advertisers tell you. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:29:32 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 13:31:14 +1100, Clifford Heath wrote: On 28/2/19 12:15 pm, Peter Jason wrote: Yes, I live alone in unalloyed bliss. Additionally, I can get by on but one shower/week (except during heat waves and the odd bone-chilling winter's day.) This could be why you live alone. I don't care. Washing too often leaches the skin of natural oils and protective fauna. A occasional cat-lick at the sink keeps one clean & healthy. Don't believe everything advertisers tell you. And, evaluate carefully the things you see espoused by idiots in the interweb! |
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