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Hello,
I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power up. Swapped to different workstation same problem. Cleaned the dust out and checked for blown fuses and burned components and obvious arching around the flyback transformer and yoke/CRT. Scoped the flyback (10-pin) on the motherboard pins 1 & 2 and 5 & 6 are signals pins 3 & 4 are ground pins 7,8,9,10 no voltages. Noticed the horizonal output tansistor on heat sink not even getting a little bit warm. The repair facililty is within an hour of my location. The repair costs are $97 labor plus parts if it is not the flyback tranformer or tube[$35 plus tax for diagnostics]. My question is it worth the risk to run to the repair or dump it in the garbage and purchase another monitor. I like the monitor and don't have alot of money at this time to purchase a good replacement. I was running the monitor on a 2-port kvm switch. The other question is does anybody think I have a bad flyback or CRT. Best regards, ral |
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With a monitor of that make and age, I would get a new one, rather than sink
good money in to it. In a few months something else can go wrong with it. At least with a new monitor you will have a warranty. -- Greetings, Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG ========================================= WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm ========================================= "ral" wrote in message ... Hello, I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power up. Swapped to different workstation same problem. Cleaned the dust out and checked for blown fuses and burned components and obvious arching around the flyback transformer and yoke/CRT. Scoped the flyback (10-pin) on the motherboard pins 1 & 2 and 5 & 6 are signals pins 3 & 4 are ground pins 7,8,9,10 no voltages. Noticed the horizonal output tansistor on heat sink not even getting a little bit warm. The repair facililty is within an hour of my location. The repair costs are $97 labor plus parts if it is not the flyback tranformer or tube[$35 plus tax for diagnostics]. My question is it worth the risk to run to the repair or dump it in the garbage and purchase another monitor. I like the monitor and don't have alot of money at this time to purchase a good replacement. I was running the monitor on a 2-port kvm switch. The other question is does anybody think I have a bad flyback or CRT. Best regards, ral |
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ral wrote in message .. .
Hello, I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power up. Swapped to different workstation same problem. Cleaned the dust out and checked for blown fuses and burned components and obvious arching around the flyback transformer and yoke/CRT. Scoped the flyback (10-pin) on the motherboard pins 1 & 2 and 5 & 6 are signals pins 3 & 4 are ground pins 7,8,9,10 no voltages. Noticed the horizonal output tansistor on heat sink not even getting a little bit warm. The repair facililty is within an hour of my location. The repair costs are $97 labor plus parts if it is not the flyback tranformer or tube[$35 plus tax for diagnostics]. My question is it worth the risk to run to the repair or dump it in the garbage and purchase another monitor. I like the monitor and don't have alot of money at this time to purchase a good replacement. I was running the monitor on a 2-port kvm switch. The other question is does anybody think I have a bad flyback or CRT. Best regards, ral Check voltages on CRT board and tell us |
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ral:
The clicking usually means that the switching power supply is trying to start, it then detects an over-current situation (short), shuts down, then trys all over again. Have you checked the Horizontal Output Transistor (HOT) for shorts ? You can check this using the diode-check on your meter. Are you getting any secondary voltages from the power supply ? Any voltage on the collector of the HOT ? John |
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John Gill wrote:
ral: The clicking usually means that the switching power supply is trying to start, it then detects an over-current situation (short), shuts down, then trys all over again. Have you checked the Horizontal Output Transistor (HOT) for shorts ? You can check this using the diode-check on your meter. Are you getting any secondary voltages from the power supply ? Any voltage on the collector of the HOT ? John Hi John, Thanks for the reply. Okay I have checked the HOT in-circuit with my ohm meter. I'm reading shorted. The part number is (C5521.96). There is a flat pack diode on the same heat sink with the cathode going to the collector of the HOT it reads short as well. Part number 1G123S15 ral |
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ral wrote:
snip Thanks for the reply. Okay I have checked the HOT in-circuit with my ohm meter. I'm reading shorted. The part number is (C5521.96). snip The HOT part number is 2SC5521 and I just ordered one for $17.50 If this doesn't fix it. I'll move the monitor to the garbage. I'll keep the newsgroup posted on the final resolution. Thx's ral |
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Ral:
I would have taken the HOT transistor and dual-diode out of the circuit and tested it agin if it checked shorted in circuit. I find the diode-check function on my meter to be more accurate at finding shorted transistors. Many HOT transistors will check base-to-emitter short while in circuit. I usually check both combinations of base-collector and collector-emitter with the diode-check. John Hi John, Thanks for the reply. Okay I have checked the HOT in-circuit with my ohm meter. I'm reading shorted. The part number is (C5521.96). There is a flat pack diode on the same heat sink with the cathode going to the collector of the HOT it reads short as well. Part number 1G123S15 ral |
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ral:
Another thought: Many monitors use a Field Effect transistor (FET), a capacitor, and sometimes a diode in a regulator circuit that supplies the primary of the flyback with its operating voltage. This voltage, when it leaves the primary, flows through the collector of the HOT. It is fairly common for the FET or capacitor to go bad which causes the voltage to go up and also blow the HOT. Check it out before you install the new HOT transistor. John |
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John Gill wrote:
ral: Another thought: Many monitors use a Field Effect transistor (FET), a capacitor, and sometimes a diode in a regulator circuit that supplies the primary of the flyback with its operating voltage. This voltage, when it leaves the primary, flows through the collector of the HOT. It is fairly common for the FET or capacitor to go bad which causes the voltage to go up and also blow the HOT. Check it out before you install the new HOT transistor. John Good point, John I'll check everything out of circuit when the part gets here. I did check collector to emitter (ground) shorted on the HOT. Another tidbit from the OP is a closer look at the HOT showed burn marks on the component side of the HOT at the base, collector leads. I received the tracking number on the part should be 5 days. Thx's again ral |
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ral wrote:
Hello, I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power up. snip I received the replacement HOT and removed the bad HOT checked the diode and cap in the circuit good with an ohm meter. Installed the new HOT and tested and still no raster/display. Rechecked the HOT/diode with an ohm meter after power test in-circuit and still tested good. The electronics appeared to be working because of blinking amber led when video input signal removed. With power on and cover off visually checked heater on CRT neck and nothing. Suspect bad tube or flyback. Thanks to all who helped and commented. ral |
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ral:
If the heater within the picture tube is not glowing, check the voltage on the heater pins of the CRT socket. Should be about 6.3 VDC. If not, try to follow the heater lines down into the main board. Look for a bad capacitor or diode. Are you getting any high-voltage ? Do you hear the crackle when the high-voltage comes up ? If not: 1. Check the resistance between the CRT anode wire (heavy red to top of picture tube) and ground. Should read open circuit (greater than 200 Meg ohm). 2. Check the capactance between anode wire and ground. Should read about 2.75 nano-farads. Flyback is bad if less than 1 nano-farads. 3. I usually check the primary flyback winding with a flyback ring tester. But you probably do not have one. John |
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