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ral January 2nd 04 07:26 AM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
Hello,
I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no
display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power
up. Swapped to different workstation same problem. Cleaned the dust
out and checked for blown fuses and burned components and obvious
arching around the flyback transformer and yoke/CRT. Scoped the
flyback (10-pin) on the motherboard pins 1 & 2 and 5 & 6 are signals
pins 3 & 4 are ground pins 7,8,9,10 no voltages. Noticed the horizonal
output tansistor on heat sink not even getting a little bit warm. The
repair facililty is within an hour of my location. The repair costs
are $97 labor plus parts if it is not the flyback tranformer or
tube[$35 plus tax for diagnostics].
My question is it worth the risk to run to the repair or dump it in
the garbage and purchase another monitor. I like the monitor and don't
have alot of money at this time to purchase a good replacement. I was
running the monitor on a 2-port kvm switch. The other question is
does anybody think I have a bad flyback or CRT.

Best regards,
ral


Jerry G. January 2nd 04 08:02 AM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
With a monitor of that make and age, I would get a new one, rather than sink
good money in to it. In a few months something else can go wrong with it.
At least with a new monitor you will have a warranty.

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"ral" wrote in message
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Hello,
I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no
display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power
up. Swapped to different workstation same problem. Cleaned the dust
out and checked for blown fuses and burned components and obvious
arching around the flyback transformer and yoke/CRT. Scoped the
flyback (10-pin) on the motherboard pins 1 & 2 and 5 & 6 are signals
pins 3 & 4 are ground pins 7,8,9,10 no voltages. Noticed the horizonal
output tansistor on heat sink not even getting a little bit warm. The
repair facililty is within an hour of my location. The repair costs
are $97 labor plus parts if it is not the flyback tranformer or
tube[$35 plus tax for diagnostics].
My question is it worth the risk to run to the repair or dump it in
the garbage and purchase another monitor. I like the monitor and don't
have alot of money at this time to purchase a good replacement. I was
running the monitor on a 2-port kvm switch. The other question is
does anybody think I have a bad flyback or CRT.

Best regards,
ral



GPG January 2nd 04 11:14 AM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
ral wrote in message .. .
Hello,
I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no
display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power
up. Swapped to different workstation same problem. Cleaned the dust
out and checked for blown fuses and burned components and obvious
arching around the flyback transformer and yoke/CRT. Scoped the
flyback (10-pin) on the motherboard pins 1 & 2 and 5 & 6 are signals
pins 3 & 4 are ground pins 7,8,9,10 no voltages. Noticed the horizonal
output tansistor on heat sink not even getting a little bit warm. The
repair facililty is within an hour of my location. The repair costs
are $97 labor plus parts if it is not the flyback tranformer or
tube[$35 plus tax for diagnostics].
My question is it worth the risk to run to the repair or dump it in
the garbage and purchase another monitor. I like the monitor and don't
have alot of money at this time to purchase a good replacement. I was
running the monitor on a 2-port kvm switch. The other question is
does anybody think I have a bad flyback or CRT.

Best regards,
ral


Check voltages on CRT board and tell us

John Gill January 2nd 04 04:38 PM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
ral:
The clicking usually means that the switching power supply is trying to
start, it then detects an over-current situation (short), shuts down,
then trys all over again.
Have you checked the Horizontal Output Transistor (HOT) for shorts ?
You can check this using the diode-check on your meter.

Are you getting any secondary voltages from the power supply ?
Any voltage on the collector of the HOT ?
John

ral January 2nd 04 06:16 PM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
John Gill wrote:
ral:
The clicking usually means that the switching power supply is trying to
start, it then detects an over-current situation (short), shuts down,
then trys all over again.
Have you checked the Horizontal Output Transistor (HOT) for shorts ?
You can check this using the diode-check on your meter.

Are you getting any secondary voltages from the power supply ?
Any voltage on the collector of the HOT ?
John

Hi John,

Thanks for the reply.
Okay I have checked the HOT in-circuit with my ohm meter. I'm reading
shorted. The part number is (C5521.96). There is a flat pack diode on
the same heat sink with the cathode going to the collector of the HOT
it reads short as well. Part number 1G123S15

ral


ral January 2nd 04 09:03 PM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
ral wrote:

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Thanks for the reply.
Okay I have checked the HOT in-circuit with my ohm meter. I'm reading
shorted. The part number is (C5521.96).

snip

The HOT part number is 2SC5521 and I just ordered one for $17.50 If
this doesn't fix it. I'll move the monitor to the garbage. I'll keep
the newsgroup posted on the final resolution.


Thx's
ral


John Gill January 4th 04 12:58 AM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
Ral:
I would have taken the HOT transistor and dual-diode out of the circuit and
tested it agin if it checked shorted in circuit. I find the diode-check
function on my meter to be more accurate at finding shorted transistors.
Many HOT transistors will check base-to-emitter short while in circuit.
I usually check both combinations of base-collector and collector-emitter
with the diode-check.
John


Hi John,

Thanks for the reply.
Okay I have checked the HOT in-circuit with my ohm meter. I'm reading
shorted. The part number is (C5521.96). There is a flat pack diode on
the same heat sink with the cathode going to the collector of the HOT
it reads short as well. Part number 1G123S15

ral


John Gill January 4th 04 01:06 AM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
ral:
Another thought:
Many monitors use a Field Effect transistor (FET), a capacitor, and sometimes
a diode in a regulator circuit that supplies the primary of the flyback
with its operating voltage. This voltage, when it leaves the primary,
flows through the collector of the HOT. It is fairly common for the FET
or capacitor to go bad which causes the voltage to go up and also blow
the HOT. Check it out before you install the new HOT transistor.
John

ral January 4th 04 02:34 AM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
John Gill wrote:
ral:
Another thought:
Many monitors use a Field Effect transistor (FET), a capacitor, and sometimes
a diode in a regulator circuit that supplies the primary of the flyback
with its operating voltage. This voltage, when it leaves the primary,
flows through the collector of the HOT. It is fairly common for the FET
or capacitor to go bad which causes the voltage to go up and also blow
the HOT. Check it out before you install the new HOT transistor.
John

Good point, John I'll check everything out of circuit when the part
gets here. I did check collector to emitter (ground) shorted on the
HOT. Another tidbit from the OP is a closer look at the HOT showed
burn marks on the component side of the HOT at the base, collector
leads. I received the tracking number on the part should be 5 days.

Thx's again
ral


ral January 5th 04 08:10 PM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
ral wrote:
Hello,
I have a 4.5 year old monitor (original owner) that has no
display/raster, power LED is good and I hear a clicking sound on power
up.


snip

I received the replacement HOT and removed the bad HOT checked the
diode and cap in the circuit good with an ohm meter. Installed the new
HOT and tested and still no raster/display. Rechecked the HOT/diode
with an ohm meter after power test in-circuit and still tested good.
The electronics appeared to be working because of blinking amber led
when video input signal removed. With power on and cover off visually
checked heater on CRT neck and nothing. Suspect bad tube or flyback.
Thanks to all who helped and commented.

ral



John Gill January 6th 04 04:45 PM

TTX 19" Monitor
 
ral:
If the heater within the picture tube is not glowing, check the voltage
on the heater pins of the CRT socket. Should be about 6.3 VDC.
If not, try to follow the heater lines down into the main board. Look
for a bad capacitor or diode.

Are you getting any high-voltage ? Do you hear the crackle when the
high-voltage comes up ? If not:
1. Check the resistance between the CRT anode wire (heavy red to top of
picture tube) and ground. Should read open circuit (greater than
200 Meg ohm).
2. Check the capactance between anode wire and ground. Should read about
2.75 nano-farads. Flyback is bad if less than 1 nano-farads.
3. I usually check the primary flyback winding with a flyback ring tester.
But you probably do not have one.
John


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