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I know there are some PC gurus in here, perhaps I could prevail upon
you to give me a walk through on this.

This is a Dlink DI 804 HV. The other day my Win 98SE box's OS crashed
and it did a revert. It has reinstalled all drivers and reports that
the network card is working properly. Now I have built PCs, but I know
very little about networking. The last time something like this
happened I had to put in the address http://192.168.0.1 and put some
information in the window, like time zone and so forth.

However that now results in the "Page cannot be displayed", cannot
find server. I am on another PC connected to the same router so it is
not defective.

Dlink has told me on the phone that they no longer support Win 98, and
SBC was equally unhelpful. Last time it worked, I have gone to Dlink's
website and got the installation guide. It mentions hitting the reset
button. Last time I got walked through this setup process I was told
specifically NOT to hit reset. I am a bit leary of doing so, because I
can go downstairs and get online, which is what I did today.

As far as upgrading to XP, it is out of the question, not only because
of the age of the machine, but because I like 98 and I can and have
manipulated it quite a bit. What I have done goes alot farther than
changing a few file associations. In time I know I will have to load
XP, and I will then learn how to do the same or similar. Other than
that I could load Linux, but I just don't have the time to learn it
right now.

Should I hit reset and take my chances or what ? I know I have to
replace that 98 box soon, but I am looking for something suitable, I
am looking for the best PC I can run 98SE on, I'm thinking a high end
regular Athlon or P3. I've seen 98 run on PCs of that class and it is
fast. But for now, I'd like to get what I got running again.

Any help ?

Thanks for anything, I am lost.

JURB

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If you can get on the network from the other machine and it is attached to
the same router, then I doubt if there is a router configuration issue so it
would appear the issue is with the Windows desktop computer.

How is the network Interface configured on the Windows box: Static IP
address or DHCP? Do you get a link light and is the I/F at both the router
and on the desktop computer that is not working? If not, then check the
cables.

If you open a DOS command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" what do you
see? Is the I/F up and active or is the "media disconnected" or the I/F
shows as "not enabled"?

Assuming DHCP is enabled on the D-Link router, the config should be DHCP.
If there is no DHCP server on the router, then you will need to assign it an
address in the Private IP address range of the router's LAN side. You can
get an idea of that range by looking at the IP address on the working PC .
The default gateway on that other machine will most likely point to the IP
address of the router LAN port.

You should be able to get this working again assuming all the components are
OK and it just lost sanity. Good luck and post your results.

Bob

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I know there are some PC gurus in here, perhaps I could prevail upon
you to give me a walk through on this.

This is a Dlink DI 804 HV. The other day my Win 98SE box's OS crashed
and it did a revert. It has reinstalled all drivers and reports that
the network card is working properly. Now I have built PCs, but I know
very little about networking. The last time something like this
happened I had to put in the address http://192.168.0.1 and put some
information in the window, like time zone and so forth.

However that now results in the "Page cannot be displayed", cannot
find server. I am on another PC connected to the same router so it is
not defective.

Dlink has told me on the phone that they no longer support Win 98, and
SBC was equally unhelpful. Last time it worked, I have gone to Dlink's
website and got the installation guide. It mentions hitting the reset
button. Last time I got walked through this setup process I was told
specifically NOT to hit reset. I am a bit leary of doing so, because I
can go downstairs and get online, which is what I did today.

As far as upgrading to XP, it is out of the question, not only because
of the age of the machine, but because I like 98 and I can and have
manipulated it quite a bit. What I have done goes alot farther than
changing a few file associations. In time I know I will have to load
XP, and I will then learn how to do the same or similar. Other than
that I could load Linux, but I just don't have the time to learn it
right now.

Should I hit reset and take my chances or what ? I know I have to
replace that 98 box soon, but I am looking for something suitable, I
am looking for the best PC I can run 98SE on, I'm thinking a high end
regular Athlon or P3. I've seen 98 run on PCs of that class and it is
fast. But for now, I'd like to get what I got running again.

Any help ?

Thanks for anything, I am lost.

JURB



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The router, like all the other Internet components, is not subject to
damage because of your PC crashing. It doesn't need reprogramming,
you just need to tell the PC that it should connect through DHCP
protocol like all other router users do. As I recall Windows 98,
you have to install the Ethernet card's driver, then verify that it
shows up (start/settings/control panel/system, select the Device
Manager
tab, double-click Network Adapters and it should be there).
Then make sure all the cables are connected, and check for TCP/IP
(which is separate from Ethernet, though most folk think they were
always
joined at the hip). Start/settings/control panel/network,
configuration tab,
and you should see TCP/IP. If not, add/protocol... it should be
obvious.
Click on TCP/IP, select your card, select properties and be sure
'obtain
an IP address automatically' is selected.

That should do it.

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How about going into D-Link's router and check if it can see 2 PCs connected
to it through the working PC's explorer logging into the router possibly
through the IP 192. 168.0.1 (check the router's manual for I don't own a
D-Link).



"Bob Shuman" odigy.net...
If you can get on the network from the other machine and it is attached to
the same router, then I doubt if there is a router configuration issue so
it would appear the issue is with the Windows desktop computer.

How is the network Interface configured on the Windows box: Static IP
address or DHCP? Do you get a link light and is the I/F at both the
router and on the desktop computer that is not working? If not, then
check the cables.

If you open a DOS command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" what do
you see? Is the I/F up and active or is the "media disconnected" or the
I/F shows as "not enabled"?

Assuming DHCP is enabled on the D-Link router, the config should be DHCP.
If there is no DHCP server on the router, then you will need to assign it
an address in the Private IP address range of the router's LAN side. You
can get an idea of that range by looking at the IP address on the working
PC . The default gateway on that other machine will most likely point to
the IP address of the router LAN port.

You should be able to get this working again assuming all the components
are OK and it just lost sanity. Good luck and post your results.

Bob

wrote in message
ups.com...
I know there are some PC gurus in here, perhaps I could prevail upon
you to give me a walk through on this.

This is a Dlink DI 804 HV. The other day my Win 98SE box's OS crashed
and it did a revert. It has reinstalled all drivers and reports that
the network card is working properly. Now I have built PCs, but I know
very little about networking. The last time something like this
happened I had to put in the address http://192.168.0.1 and put some
information in the window, like time zone and so forth.

However that now results in the "Page cannot be displayed", cannot
find server. I am on another PC connected to the same router so it is
not defective.

Dlink has told me on the phone that they no longer support Win 98, and
SBC was equally unhelpful. Last time it worked, I have gone to Dlink's
website and got the installation guide. It mentions hitting the reset
button. Last time I got walked through this setup process I was told
specifically NOT to hit reset. I am a bit leary of doing so, because I
can go downstairs and get online, which is what I did today.

As far as upgrading to XP, it is out of the question, not only because
of the age of the machine, but because I like 98 and I can and have
manipulated it quite a bit. What I have done goes alot farther than
changing a few file associations. In time I know I will have to load
XP, and I will then learn how to do the same or similar. Other than
that I could load Linux, but I just don't have the time to learn it
right now.

Should I hit reset and take my chances or what ? I know I have to
replace that 98 box soon, but I am looking for something suitable, I
am looking for the best PC I can run 98SE on, I'm thinking a high end
regular Athlon or P3. I've seen 98 run on PCs of that class and it is
fast. But for now, I'd like to get what I got running again.

Any help ?

Thanks for anything, I am lost.

JURB





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On Aug 13, 12:55 pm, wrote:
I know there are some PC gurus in here, perhaps I could prevail upon
you to give me a walk through on this.

This is a Dlink DI 804 HV. The other day my Win 98SE box's OS crashed
and it did a revert. It has reinstalled all drivers and reports that
the network card is working properly. Now I have built PCs, but I know
very little about networking. The last time something like this
happened I had to put in the addresshttp://192.168.0.1and put some
information in the window, like time zone and so forth.

However that now results in the "Page cannot be displayed", cannot
find server. I am on another PC connected to the same router so it is
not defective.

Dlink has told me on the phone that they no longer support Win 98, and
SBC was equally unhelpful. Last time it worked, I have gone to Dlink's
website and got the installation guide. It mentions hitting the reset
button. Last time I got walked through this setup process I was told
specifically NOT to hit reset. I am a bit leary of doing so, because I
can go downstairs and get online, which is what I did today.

As far as upgrading to XP, it is out of the question, not only because
of the age of the machine, but because I like 98 and I can and have
manipulated it quite a bit. What I have done goes alot farther than
changing a few file associations. In time I know I will have to load
XP, and I will then learn how to do the same or similar. Other than
that I could load Linux, but I just don't have the time to learn it
right now.

Should I hit reset and take my chances or what ? I know I have to
replace that 98 box soon, but I am looking for something suitable, I
am looking for the best PC I can run 98SE on, I'm thinking a high end
regular Athlon or P3. I've seen 98 run on PCs of that class and it is
fast. But for now, I'd like to get what I got running again.

Any help ?

Thanks for anything, I am lost.

JURB


The routers I've used are 192.168.1.1 which I just tried. 192.168.0.1
went off into LaLa Land.

Dang, I thought I was the last one to dump Win98SE last year on the
wife's machine. XP is so much better for handling photos, USB devices
and no more of that confounded scandisk garbage. Don't miss THAT. Not
to mention files 4 gigs no longer an issue. Yes, HDTV files get BIG.

HTH
GG



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ups.com...
I know there are some PC gurus in here, perhaps I could prevail upon
you to give me a walk through on this.

This is a Dlink DI 804 HV. The other day my Win 98SE box's OS crashed
and it did a revert. It has reinstalled all drivers and reports that
the network card is working properly. Now I have built PCs, but I know
very little about networking. The last time something like this
happened I had to put in the address http://192.168.0.1 and put some
information in the window, like time zone and so forth.

However that now results in the "Page cannot be displayed", cannot
find server. I am on another PC connected to the same router so it is
not defective.

Dlink has told me on the phone that they no longer support Win 98, and
SBC was equally unhelpful. Last time it worked, I have gone to Dlink's
website and got the installation guide. It mentions hitting the reset
button. Last time I got walked through this setup process I was told
specifically NOT to hit reset. I am a bit leary of doing so, because I
can go downstairs and get online, which is what I did today.

As far as upgrading to XP, it is out of the question, not only because
of the age of the machine, but because I like 98 and I can and have
manipulated it quite a bit. What I have done goes alot farther than
changing a few file associations. In time I know I will have to load
XP, and I will then learn how to do the same or similar. Other than
that I could load Linux, but I just don't have the time to learn it
right now.

Should I hit reset and take my chances or what ? I know I have to
replace that 98 box soon, but I am looking for something suitable, I
am looking for the best PC I can run 98SE on, I'm thinking a high end
regular Athlon or P3. I've seen 98 run on PCs of that class and it is
fast. But for now, I'd like to get what I got running again.

Any help ?

Thanks for anything, I am lost.

JURB



Apparently, the router itself functions properly, so you do not need to
(re)configure it. Assuming your hardware is ok (likely as it worked until
the OS crashed) the only thing to do is to set the network configuration on
your WIN98 machine. So do:
Start - Setting - Control Panel - Network

The Network window will show at least three items:
- Client for Microsoft Networks
- The brand and type of your ethernet adapter
- TCP/IP - that adapter

Select the TCP/IP and hit the "Properties" button.
Now you'll have a TCP/IP properties window with seven tabs.

On the IP address tab select "Obtain an IP address automatically"
WINS Configuration tab: Disable
Gateway tab: Should be empty
DNS Configuration tab: Disable
Bindings tab: Client for Microsoft Networks should be marked
Advanced tab: Property should be none
BIOS tab: do nothing

This can be considered the standard setting for home networks, also
described in the manual of the DI-804-HV.

petrus bitbyter


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