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Rant: F**k the Salvation Army
Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store
today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in message ups.com... Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... Yep, gotten screwed by them a few times. Always on electronics/DVDs or (in the day) VHS tapes. I don't think they even test stuff prior to shelving it. I have had better luck with Goodwill, but I never expect much from any charity shop. Think of what you are buying- crap people got rid of prior to moving, leftovers from their garage sale, etc. Not the best quality stuff to begin with. Ryan |
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Ryan Elkins wrote: Think of what you are buying- crap people got rid of prior to moving, leftovers from their garage sale, etc. Not the best quality stuff to begin with. Ryan Well I mainly look for the nicer audio gear, tube based electronics, and old analog synthesizer keyboards. Good thing is, the Goodwills seem fairly clueless as to any value the stuff may have. Example: I bought a mint condition Roland Juno-106 keyboard sans pwr cable for $19.99. Street value is at least 350$ in nice cond./working order. They regularly sell solid state organs you can't *give* away for 60-100$. Still waiting to find some old Moog or Sequential stuff....:-) I've made decent money on Ebay scooping up the old Marantz stuff for a few bucks, cleaning it up and taking care of any issues. At least it ends up with someone who actually wants it and won't shove it into the garage to rot. |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in message ups.com... Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Sorry to seem cold, but you bought a piece of electronic gear for A TINY FRACTION of what YOU KNEW to be the purchase price on an item that was CLEARLY LABELLED "AS-IS". If you sell something AS-IS, you don't have to test it. You don't have to guarantee it. A designation of "AS-IS" puts the onus on the buyer to make sure he's happy with something BEFORE he buys it. I buy stuff regularly on eBay and "as-is" is the same as "for parts only". Next time you'll drag a car battery in and test the damn thing. You should be ****ed off at your own stupidity for buying something for next to nothing and then assuming it's going to work perfectly. Duh, why would someone sell a 300-dollar monitor for 35 bucks? Oh, and by the way, the Salvation Army is a CHARITY. You just donated $35.. good for you! Dave |
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"Dave" wrote in message Sorry to seem cold, but you bought a piece of electronic gear for A TINY FRACTION of what YOU KNEW to be the purchase price on an item that was CLEARLY LABELLED "AS-IS". If you sell something AS-IS, you don't have to test it. You don't have to guarantee it. A designation of "AS-IS" puts the onus on the buyer to make sure he's happy with something BEFORE he buys it. I buy stuff regularly on eBay and "as-is" is the same as "for parts only". Next time you'll drag a car battery in and test the damn thing. You should be ****ed off at your own stupidity for buying something for next to nothing and then assuming it's going to work perfectly. Duh, why would someone sell a 300-dollar monitor for 35 bucks? Oh, and by the way, the Salvation Army is a CHARITY. You just donated $35.. good for you! Dave I agree! BH |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in message ups.com... Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Remember, they got it for FREE! How much could it be worth really? |
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"boardjunkie" ) writes:
Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... When buying used, people should never pay more than they are willing to lose. Obviously this works against the seller, but then if they set things out for the buyer to actually plug it in, they could make more money off it. But in this case, you could look at it as giving money to charity, and then getting a prize in return. These groups are trying to raise money, not for profit sake but to do other things that are likely good for the community. For the buyer, it is indeed better than a straight donation, since you see some sort of return on the item, but since the group is given the old items to sell, their overhead is low. (Of course, that overhead might go up if they had to test everything, and I should point out that one has to give thought to someone who knowingly gives a broken something to the Salvation Army.) So when buying from some group doing a fundraiser, think of it as giving that group money, and anything you get in return is a bonus. For years I've gone to one "Meals on Wheels" yard sale. One year they had an auction, and I bid on an old Mac laptop, and kept bidding even though it had gone more than I thought it was worth. It was fun, and I realized I'd much rather have that fun while giving the money than just giving the money. Turned out to be a more recent Powerbook than I thought, and was well worth the $40. But I'm not sure I'd have paid $40 for an old laptop if I couldn't actually try it out at some garage sale. And I should point out that you seem to be profiteering off the items you buy there, so losing some money should be considered part of the business expence. You might turn around and offer to test the stuff for them, or to evaluate what they have, which would help them to raise more money. After all, that seems to be what you are doing, albeit keeping the profit for yourself. Michael |
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Dave wrote: Sorry to seem cold, but you bought a piece of electronic gear for A TINY FRACTION of what YOU KNEW to be the purchase price on an item that was CLEARLY LABELLED "AS-IS". If you sell something AS-IS, you don't have to test it. You don't have to guarantee it. A designation of "AS-IS" puts the onus on the buyer to make sure he's happy with something BEFORE he buys it. I buy stuff regularly on eBay and "as-is" is the same as "for parts only". Next time you'll drag a car battery in and test the damn thing. You should be ****ed off at your own stupidity for buying something for next to nothing and then assuming it's going to work perfectly. Duh, why would someone sell a 300-dollar monitor for 35 bucks? Oh, and by the way, the Salvation Army is a CHARITY. You just donated $35.. good for you! Dave My point was that the unit was completely useless and shouldn't have been there to begin with. What....now I should haul in test equipment, soldering station and wire, and power supplies to test stuff? Sure...I'll just set up a test bench on some furniture and soak in the puzzled looks. I don't mind repairing the stuff I get from thrift shops, so long as its possible. If I wanted to just make a donation, I would have. The monitor was damaged, unrepairable, and just plain should have been trashed. Just for kicks I'm gonna go there tomorrow to see if its back on the shelf for sale. |
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"boardjunkie" wrote ...
My point was that the unit was completely useless and shouldn't have been there to begin with. What....now I should haul in test equipment, soldering station and wire, and power supplies to test stuff? Or do you want THEM to do that? Are you prepared to pay the price they will want for "tested-good" vs. "as-is"? I think your expectations were competely unreasonable. Do you really think SA, or GW or any of those charities can afford to hire people who know a power prick from a toaster? Sure...I'll just set up a test bench on some furniture and soak in the puzzled looks. I don't mind repairing the stuff I get from thrift shops, so long as its possible. If it were me, I would have gone home and grabbed a PS to use to test it with. If I wanted to just make a donation, I would have. The monitor was damaged, unrepairable, and just plain should have been trashed. Just for kicks I'm gonna go there tomorrow to see if its back on the shelf for sale. But if YOU didn't know whether it was damaged until you plugged it into a 12V PS, how on earth do you expect THEM to know that? This is the very definition of a "pig in a poke". I love scrounging for hidden treasures at GW, et.al., but when you buy stuff like that, untested, you gotta allow for a certain percentage of dissapointments. If you aren't willing to take the gamble, don't buy it. |
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"Ryan Elkins" wrote in message ...
Yep, gotten screwed by them a few times. Always on electronics/DVDs or (in the day) VHS tapes. I don't think they even test stuff prior to shelving it. I have had better luck with Goodwill, but I never expect much from any charity shop. Think of what you are buying- crap people got rid of prior to moving, leftovers from their garage sale, etc. Not the best quality stuff to begin with. I bought what I thought was a VHS Rush video concert which actually turned out to be 'Gentlemen Prefer Ginger', a porno starring Ginger Lynn...I told the guy at the front counter next time I was in, he laughed & said "oh we get that all the time!" :0| Needless to say I was pretty happy, since it was a pretty cool flick.. |
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I think your title is harsh and uncalled for...
boardjunkie wrote: Dave wrote: Sorry to seem cold, but you bought a piece of electronic gear for A TINY FRACTION of what YOU KNEW to be the purchase price on an item that was CLEARLY LABELLED "AS-IS". If you sell something AS-IS, you don't have to test it. You don't have to guarantee it. A designation of "AS-IS" puts the onus on the buyer to make sure he's happy with something BEFORE he buys it. I buy stuff regularly on eBay and "as-is" is the same as "for parts only". Next time you'll drag a car battery in and test the damn thing. You should be ****ed off at your own stupidity for buying something for next to nothing and then assuming it's going to work perfectly. Duh, why would someone sell a 300-dollar monitor for 35 bucks? Oh, and by the way, the Salvation Army is a CHARITY. You just donated $35.. good for you! Dave My point was that the unit was completely useless and shouldn't have been there to begin with. You need to understand the concept of donating to the Salvation Army. People donate stuff for various reasons, and you can never be sure which one applies to that item. They may donated it because they want to help the charity, because they'll pad the price for a tax deduction, or because it's junk that they don't want and it saves them the expense of taking it to the dump (or hazardous waste site, in the case of computer electronics in many localities)! What....now I should haul in test equipment, soldering station and wire, and power supplies to test stuff? Come on now! That's what it took for you to find out it didn't work??? You said that you knew that the sale was "as-is." When you buy AS IS, you factor the risk into the price. ...simple as that. Sure...I'll just set up a test bench You needed a test bench to find out it was busted??? Why not just return with your own power supply and try it there, if you wanted a guaranteed "steal of a deal"? Heck, most of these stores have a bin full of wall warts, you might've found one there. You took your chances and this gamble didn't pay off. At least you have a store credit! on some furniture and soak in the puzzled looks. I don't mind repairing the stuff I get from thrift shops, so long as its possible. If I wanted to just make a donation, I would have. The monitor was damaged, unrepairable, and just plain should have been trashed. Just for kicks I'm gonna go there tomorrow to see if its back on the shelf for sale. Now that's not a bad idea. If it is, you should talk with a manager. But I guess I just don't have much sympathy with this situation when you knew it was as-is and not refundable. |
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Michael Black wrote:
"boardjunkie" ) writes: Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... When buying used, people should never pay more than they are willing to lose. Obviously this works against the seller, but then if they set things out for the buyer to actually plug it in, they could make more money off it. But in this case, you could look at it as giving money to charity, and then getting a prize in return. These groups are trying to raise money, not for profit sake but to do other things that are likely good for the community. For the buyer, it is indeed better than a straight donation, since you see some sort of return on the item, but since the group is given the old items to sell, their overhead is low. (Of course, that overhead might go up if they had to test everything, and I should point out that one has to give thought to someone who knowingly gives a broken something to the Salvation Army.) So when buying from some group doing a fundraiser, think of it as giving that group money, and anything you get in return is a bonus. The IRS doesn't look at it that way. The only donation is the part of the purchase price that exceeds the fair market value. For years I've gone to one "Meals on Wheels" yard sale. One year they had an auction, and I bid on an old Mac laptop, and kept bidding even though it had gone more than I thought it was worth. It was fun, and I realized I'd much rather have that fun while giving the money than just giving the money. Turned out to be a more recent Powerbook than I thought, and was well worth the $40. But I'm not sure I'd have paid $40 for an old laptop if I couldn't actually try it out at some garage sale. And I should point out that you seem to be profiteering off the items you buy there, so losing some money should be considered part of the business expence. You might turn around and offer to test the stuff for them, or to evaluate what they have, which would help them to raise more money. After all, that seems to be what you are doing, albeit keeping the profit for yourself. Michael |
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"Dave" wrote in message news:baXRg.21060$KA6.15489@clgrps12...
Sorry to seem cold, but you bought a piece of electronic gear for A TINY FRACTION of what YOU KNEW to be the purchase price on an item that was CLEARLY LABELLED "AS-IS". Usually that means it's broken or there's something wrong with it.. |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in message My point was that the unit was completely useless and shouldn't have been there to begin with. What....now I should haul in test equipment, soldering station and wire, and power supplies to test stuff? Sure...I'll just set up a test bench on some furniture and soak in the puzzled looks. I don't mind repairing the stuff I get from thrift shops, so long as its possible. If I wanted to just make a donation, I would have. The monitor was damaged, unrepairable, and just plain should have been trashed. Just for kicks I'm gonna go there tomorrow to see if its back on the shelf for sale. I think you have a funny way of looking at things. You gotta be kinda naive to think every piece of electronic junk at the SA is in good working order. The Salvation Army doesn't have the resources to check everything. If it looks good they put it out there. Get over it! BH |
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"Navin R. Johnson" wrote in message I bought what I thought was a VHS Rush video concert which actually turned out to be 'Gentlemen Prefer Ginger', a porno starring Ginger Lynn...I told the guy at the front counter next time I was in, he laughed & said "oh we get that all the time!" :0| Needless to say I was pretty happy, since it was a pretty cool flick.. Your a lucky man Navin. lol BH |
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"Jim" wrote in message ... I think your title is harsh and uncalled for... Sure is. Here is a greedy bargain hunter who is clueless about charitable organizations. He needs to get a liberal education and then a life. |
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"Charles Schuler" wrote ...
"Jim" wrote ... I think your title is harsh and uncalled for... Sure is. Here is a greedy bargain hunter who is clueless about charitable organizations. He needs to get a liberal education and then a life. Or perhaps thats his problem. His education was "liberal" to the point of expecting he was entitled to something from the SA. |
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Richard Crowley wrote:
I think your expectations were competely unreasonable. Do you really think SA, or GW or any of those charities can afford to hire people who know a power prick from a toaster? You'd be surprised at what those pricks can afford. They aren't nearly as poor as they make themselves out to be. -- "When it comes to huge openings, a lot of people think of me." -Hedwig, 2001 |
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Don Bowey wrote:
Salvation Army good *bull***** Salvation Army - arseholes -- "When it comes to huge openings, a lot of people think of me." -Hedwig, 2001 |
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Jim wrote: I think your title is harsh and uncalled for... You needed a test bench to find out it was busted??? Why not just return with your own power supply and try it there, Non standard pwr connector I had to hack off. Then I would have needed a meter to determine pwr polarity since it wasn't marked. Then soldering stuff, wire, pwr supply, and connectors to get it powered up. Get my point? I doubt they would want anyone doing anything like that..... Heck, most of these stores have a bin full of wall warts, Not 12vdc 3a wall warts. This probably had a little switcher supply that ran it. Ok, so now I'm a "greedy bargain hunter" just looking to profit? I see....so my bench time isn't worth anything when I refurbish the stuff? I find things all grubby and neglected and spend hours disassembling, cleaning, and repairing them. Hell, I've even gone as far as to refinish the wooden enclosures. So that's bad. Putting items in the hands of those who will appreciate and enjoy them is a bad thing? Keeping lead out of landfills is a bad thing? Well I should stop doing that then 'cause I'm cheating the charities and fleecing consumers. Yawn.....arguing about this is making me sleepy...... |
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Frank Piotrowski wrote: What does this have to do with guitars? Well....nothing. Apparently I posted to 2 groups. Carry on. |
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"VampiressX" wrote in message ... You'd be surprised at what those pricks can afford. They aren't nearly as poor as they make themselves out to be. How many drunks did you offer a place to stay last night? |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in message ups.com... Ok, so now I'm a "greedy bargain hunter" just looking to profit? I see....so my bench time isn't worth anything when I refurbish the stuff? I find things all grubby and neglected and spend hours disassembling, cleaning, and repairing them. Hell, I've even gone as far as to refinish the wooden enclosures. So that's bad. Putting items in the hands of those who will appreciate and enjoy them is a bad thing? Keeping lead out of landfills is a bad thing? Well I should stop doing that then 'cause I'm cheating the charities and fleecing consumers. Next time make them an offer. |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in
oups.com: Ryan Elkins wrote: Think of what you are buying- crap people got rid of prior to moving, leftovers from their garage sale, etc. Not the best quality stuff to begin with. Ryan Well I mainly look for the nicer audio gear, tube based electronics, and old analog synthesizer keyboards. Good thing is, the Goodwills seem fairly clueless as to any value the stuff may have. Example: I bought a mint condition Roland Juno-106 keyboard sans pwr cable for $19.99. Street value is at least 350$ in nice cond./working order. They regularly sell solid state organs you can't *give* away for 60-100$. Still waiting to find some old Moog or Sequential stuff....:-) I've made decent money on Ebay scooping up the old Marantz stuff for a few bucks, cleaning it up and taking care of any issues. At least it ends up with someone who actually wants it and won't shove it into the garage to rot. ****, if my Salvation Army had stuff like that... I'd never leave!!!! I don't think mine has ANY music stuff. |
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boardjunkie wrote:
Jim wrote: I think your title is harsh and uncalled for... You needed a test bench to find out it was busted??? Why not just return with your own power supply and try it there, Non standard pwr connector I had to hack off. Then I would have needed a meter to determine pwr polarity since it wasn't marked. Then soldering stuff, wire, pwr supply, and connectors to get it powered up. Get my point? I doubt they would want anyone doing anything like that..... Heck, most of these stores have a bin full of wall warts, Not 12vdc 3a wall warts. This probably had a little switcher supply that ran it. Ok, so now I'm a "greedy bargain hunter" just looking to profit? I NEVER SAID THAT. Perhaps you're replying to somebody else's comment? I'm a bargain hunter myself! There is NOTHING wrong with that. I see....so my bench time isn't worth anything when I refurbish the stuff? I find things all grubby and neglected and spend hours disassembling, cleaning, and repairing them. Hell, I've even gone as far as to refinish the wooden enclosures. So that's bad. Putting items in the hands of those who will appreciate and enjoy them is a bad thing? Keeping lead out of landfills is a bad thing? Well I should stop doing that then 'cause I'm cheating the charities and fleecing consumers. Yawn.....arguing about this is making me sleepy...... |
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"Navin R. Johnson" wrote in
ink.net: "Ryan Elkins" wrote in message ... Yep, gotten screwed by them a few times. Always on electronics/DVDs or (in the day) VHS tapes. I don't think they even test stuff prior to shelving it. I have had better luck with Goodwill, but I never expect much from any charity shop. Think of what you are buying- crap people got rid of prior to moving, leftovers from their garage sale, etc. Not the best quality stuff to begin with. I bought what I thought was a VHS Rush video concert which actually turned out to be 'Gentlemen Prefer Ginger', a porno starring Ginger Lynn...I told the guy at the front counter next time I was in, he laughed & said "oh we get that all the time!" :0| Needless to say I was pretty happy, since it was a pretty cool flick.. Sounds like you got a better deal... At least I'd rather watch that more than once |
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Rant: F**k the Salvation Army
I cant believe you would get on here and post that . Expecting a junk
store to refund you money especially a Salvation Army who helps feed hungry children or people who have nothing and you go ripping through there bitching about 35 dollars . Why dont you just go to the poor peoples shelter and rip food out of childrens hands . |
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Brian Hill wrote:
"Navin R. Johnson" wrote in message I bought what I thought was a VHS Rush video concert which actually turned out to be 'Gentlemen Prefer Ginger', a porno starring Ginger Lynn...I told the guy at the front counter next time I was in, he laughed & said "oh we get that all the time!" :0| Needless to say I was pretty happy, since it was a pretty cool flick.. Your a lucky man Navin. lol BH At least it wasn't on a Disney movie handed to a kid. |
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Jim wrote: I NEVER SAID THAT. Perhaps you're replying to somebody else's comment? I'm a bargain hunter myself! There is NOTHING wrong with that. That wasn't pointed at you Jim. Just a collective reply. |
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How does that old saying go? "A fool and his money are soon parted"?
AS-IS in most cases should raise a red flag. Not being able to test the thing, you should have asked yourself How bad do I want/need it? Can I afford to take the loss? I guarantee you one thing - "I" can sell items tested, but still sell them AS IS. WHY? Because I've had some assholes burn the stuff up - not knowing how to use it, then try to get their money back. |
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boardjunkie wrote:
Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... You should sleep better tonight, knowing that somewhere some homeless person will have a place to sleep... or some addicted young person will have a warm meal, or..... there's a never ending list of good works that the Sally Ann does for the disadvantaged in our communities. Take care. Ken |
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"Jim" wrote in message At least it wasn't on a Disney movie handed to a kid. Very true! BH |
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"The Chris" wrote in message ...
"Navin R. Johnson" wrote in ink.net: "Ryan Elkins" wrote in message ... Yep, gotten screwed by them a few times. Always on electronics/DVDs or (in the day) VHS tapes. I don't think they even test stuff prior to shelving it. I have had better luck with Goodwill, but I never expect much from any charity shop. Think of what you are buying- crap people got rid of prior to moving, leftovers from their garage sale, etc. Not the best quality stuff to begin with. I bought what I thought was a VHS Rush video concert which actually turned out to be 'Gentlemen Prefer Ginger', a porno starring Ginger Lynn...I told the guy at the front counter next time I was in, he laughed & said "oh we get that all the time!" :0| Needless to say I was pretty happy, since it was a pretty cool flick.. Sounds like you got a better deal... At least I'd rather watch that more than once LOL! yeah, not a bad deal for $1.20 {cash..} That girl's got talent, man. heheh tape was in good quality too; no dropouts, fuzzy stuff {well....} or artifacts. |
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"Richard Crowley" wrote in message ...
I think your expectations were competely unreasonable. Do you really think SA, or GW or any of those charities can afford to hire people who know a power prick from a toaster? ^^^^^^ Interesting...power prick...never seen onna those at GW or SA.. ....would that be battery or AC ? |
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 02:14:54 +0000, Ken Weitzel wrote:
You should sleep better tonight, knowing that somewhere some homeless person will have a place to sleep... or some addicted young person will have a warm meal, or..... there's a never ending list of good works that the Sally Ann does for the disadvantaged in our communities. I hear ya there brother!! If folks want to pick a bone with a store, how bout raising some hell with Target, for banning Salvation Army Bell Ringers from their property, during the holiday season? Take care. You do the same. Ken taharka Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A. |
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"boardjunkie" wrote in message ups.com... Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... Go back and give them a twenty dollar donation. |
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"VampiressX" wrote in message ... Don Bowey wrote: Salvation Army good *bull***** Salvation Army - arseholes Why ? You've also said they didn't help you . . I've only known them to be the most likely people I'd ever donate to. Did you have a bad personal experience with them. |
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boardjunkie wrote: Ok.....found a flat panel monitor at a Salvation Army thrift store today. At 35$ it seemed it would make a nice little display for a second machine. Now I know the policy of "as is" from this place and you should power up and test before hauling anything of this nature out of the place. Trouble is, this monitor needed an external 12vdc pwr supply that was not included. So there was no way to test on site. So I bring it back and hook it up to a bench supply and pwr up only to find it had been broken due to pressure to the face of the unit. So I take it back and tell them the story and go so far as to power it up in front of them tp prove that it was obviously damaged and shouldn't have been sold to begin with. I get the runaround about store policy regarding returns on "as is" electronic items. No refund. They issued me "store credit"......which is more or less useless to me since I rarely buy anything from them as of late due to increased prices on what I would call junk. Add to that the rarely have anything close to good anymore. So in a nutshell I gave them 35$ and have nothing to show for it. Oh, I even called the head office and got the same bull**** from clueless drones. I regularly get older audio gear from the local Goodwill shop and have never had a problem returning anything, although I have never had to return anything electronic. I just assume I may have to do some work on it. There's no repairing flat panels. Needless to say I will no longer frequent the Scamnation Army. The Goodwills have way better junk at a fraction of the price. Anyone had a similar experience? Just curious....I'm a little steamed..... I lived a quarter mile from a second hand store for ten years, what makes the difference is the manager at the time. I have had your experience and another experience where I got to help myself to everything every night for free at the same store with a different manager. I have been welcomed and banded from the same store, manager again. But all of them over price some truly worthless junk. A toaster for ten bucks? I think I will get a new one. I do make a token purchase at times. The item is to good and it will disappear. Something like a state of the art bare bones hard drive that no has realized it yet, I take it up to counter with a bunch of old ones and ask how much are these things, and they say 2 bucks a piece, so I buy 2 or 3 so the 500gig does not get focused on. A thief? you tell me. |
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