"Fred Abse" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:22:10 +0000, Ian Field wrote:

Ending up on the side of right had nothing to do with decent morals -
Hitler made a formal declaration of war against America about a week
after
the nips hit Pearl harbour.

FDR was supporting Britain long before Pearl Harbor.

It appears that you have forgotten, or never knew about, Lease-Lend.


After the isolationist & pro-axis lobbies that was a bit half-assed until
hitler declared war on the US then America started selling us war materials
to do their job for them with.

America suffered the lowest casualties of any combatant nation and made the
most profit out of the war.

"flipper" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:25:05 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"flipper" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:22:10 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"John Fields" wrote in message
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If they had left Germany and Scotland in search of a better life, why
on Earth would you believe that they's want to go back?

No one said anything about anyone wanting to go back - they just wanted
America to be like Nazi Germany.

Oh those dastardly German-Americans like John Pershing, commander of
the American Army in WWI, and Dwight Eisenhower, Supreme Allied
Commander in WWII.

Your ridiculous hate fest is turning you onto a bigot.

A significant % of Americans wanted to back what at the start looked
like
the winning side (the axis).

Didn't have a blessed thing to do with what you claim allegedly
"looked like the winning side." Fact is the great majority of
Americans opposed getting involved in yet again another European War,
especially since we hadn't been attacked or even threatened.

Not exactly true - the U-boats had part of their "happy time" off one of
America's coasts, sinking American ships nicely silhouetted against the
great arrays of neon advertising signs, which astonishingly no one knew
how
to turn off!

So, instead of 'limiting' yourself to German-American bigotry you've
decided to go for the whole enchilada, eh?


Bigotry has nothing to do with it - this group has a couple of bad eggs who
remind people that Americans aren't nice guys.

"Fred Abse" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:17 -0600, flipper wrote:

Just how does your warped mind come up with a European war being "our
job?"

It's a trait of some (fortunately few) Brits who seem to believe that, as
a group of former colonies, the USA has a duty of deference to the "old
country".


Its a trait of some Americans to believe they single handedly won the war
after turning up a couple of years late.

Russia made the greatest contribution (and sacrifice) to bleeding the Reich
white, along with their unexpectedly nasty winter of course.

They also paid dearly to greedy American profiteers for lend-lease war
materials.

Ian Field wrote:

They also paid dearly to greedy American profiteers for lend-lease war
materials.


You're absolutely right. American citizen shouldn't have had to
sacrifice their food, medicine and fuel to send to you cretins. We
should have let you 'win' all by yourselves instead of shutting down
almost all civilian manufacturing to build planes, weapons and
ammunition for yet another of your lunatic induced wars. We shouldn't
have bothered to produce the penicillin that you couldn't, or build the
Magnetrons that you fad an almost a 100% fail rate, due to your crappy
manufacturing process. We should have let you face Hitler with your
just dull wits and tea. if we had, the war for England would have ended
in days and you would either be speaking german or your ancestors gassed
for being arrogant assholes like you. If we hadn't supplied you
ungrateful *******s with what saved your sorry asses, there is little
likelihood that the US would have been drawn into that mess.

The rest of the world was against a strong US military after WW I, so
we moved to an isolationist stance and we weren't rebuilding our
military. So, when you assholes started World War Ver. 2.0, we had to
retool and invest in materials, facilities training and transportation
to be able to even offer Lend Lease. Since the US War board set the
contracts and managed all the transactions, just how did any
Profiteering take place? You are as stupid as Sloman, and as bitter as
that loser Graham. I wish we hadn't got involved, because a lot of my
family on both sides served in both World Wars, and several were killed
or disabled for you ungrateful *******s. Our contribution to the next
big war you idiots start should just be to nuke the capital city of
whoever starts it.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

"flipper" wrote in message
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:15:02 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"flipper" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:25:05 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"flipper" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:22:10 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"John Fields" wrote in message
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If they had left Germany and Scotland in search of a better life,
why
on Earth would you believe that they's want to go back?

No one said anything about anyone wanting to go back - they just
wanted
America to be like Nazi Germany.

Oh those dastardly German-Americans like John Pershing, commander of
the American Army in WWI, and Dwight Eisenhower, Supreme Allied
Commander in WWII.

Your ridiculous hate fest is turning you onto a bigot.

A significant % of Americans wanted to back what at the start looked
like
the winning side (the axis).

Didn't have a blessed thing to do with what you claim allegedly
"looked like the winning side." Fact is the great majority of
Americans opposed getting involved in yet again another European War,
especially since we hadn't been attacked or even threatened.

Not exactly true - the U-boats had part of their "happy time" off one of
America's coasts, sinking American ships nicely silhouetted against the
great arrays of neon advertising signs, which astonishingly no one knew
how
to turn off!

So, instead of 'limiting' yourself to German-American bigotry you've
decided to go for the whole enchilada, eh?


Bigotry has nothing to do with it

Your following statement about "Americans" as a generality proves it

Or maybe I saw reports like this one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-weapons.html

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:15:07 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"John Fields" wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:15:06 -0000, "Ian Field"
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"Jim Thompson" wrote
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:06:36 -0600, John Fields
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:18:36 -0000, "Ian Field"
wrote:


"Jim Thompson"
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:36:25 -0600, John Fields
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 21:39:28 -0000, "Ian Field"
wrote:


In my school days I used to go scrounging round the factories - one
firm
gave me a big bag with loads of "doorknob" transistors.

Unfortunately someone decided I didn't keep my room tidy enough and
slung
the lot!

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You shouldn't have married so young.

Ian married his Mommy ?:-)


I'd ask where you get your weird ideas - but no, seriously I'd rather
not
know!!!

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Then why bring it up?

Ian is too ignorant to recognize an insult.

...Jim Thompson


In that case you must be braindead!

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So, what you're saying is that you _can_ recognize when you've been
insulted.


But I don't take it too seriously when it comes from slack jawed yokels like
you & JT.

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Well, since you don't understand the nature of the insult, of course
you can't.

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JF

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:12:46 -0600, flipper wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:22:10 -0000, "Ian Field"
wrote:


"John Fields" wrote in message
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If they had left Germany and Scotland in search of a better life, why
on Earth would you believe that they's want to go back?

No one said anything about anyone wanting to go back - they just wanted
America to be like Nazi Germany.

Oh those dastardly German-Americans like John Pershing, commander of
the American Army in WWI, and Dwight Eisenhower, Supreme Allied
Commander in WWII.

Your ridiculous hate fest is turning you onto a bigot.

A significant % of Americans wanted to back what at the start looked like
the winning side (the axis).

Didn't have a blessed thing to do with what you claim allegedly
"looked like the winning side." Fact is the great majority of
Americans opposed getting involved in yet again another European War,
especially since we hadn't been attacked or even threatened.

Ending up on the side of right had nothing to do with decent morals - Hitler
made a formal declaration of war against America about a week after the nips
hit Pearl harbour.

Get off your high horse, pal. Britain and France sat back and watched
fascists massacre minorities all over Europe throughout the 20s and
30s, did nothing as Hitler rearmed in violation of treaty, did nothing
as Hitler absorbed Austria, and 'gave away' Czechoslovakia for the
"peace of our time."

As for the U.S., "not our job," or so the sentiment went. We had
already gone over there, reluctantly, to fight "the war to end war"
and saw what Europe had done with it.

The Japanese attacked us because our "decent morals" objected to being
complicit with their aggression and massacres in the form of providing
them with war materials, which we declined to do.

Hitler then declared war on us because jackasses of a feather flock
together.

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Very nicely stated, indeed.

--
JF

Ian Field wrote:

Or maybe I saw reports like this one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/


You're using the British version of the "Weekly World News" as a
cite?


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You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:24:08 -0800, Fred Abse
wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:53:17 -0600, flipper wrote:

Just how does your warped mind come up with a European war being "our
job?"

It's a trait of some (fortunately few) Brits who seem to believe that, as
a group of former colonies, the USA has a duty of deference to the "old
country".

Notwithstanding the fact that a large proportion of the USA population
have other than British roots.

Indeed US heritage from the rest of Europe far exceeds that of the British
isles. And more recently immigration from Asia and Mexico/Central
America/South America thoroughly dilutes that presupposition further.

?-)