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...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice  480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson "BMW said the proposals were "naive" steps that would distort the market in favour of makers of smaller cars." Well Duh. -- ---- Posted via Pronews.com - Premium Corporate Usenet News Provider ---- http://www.pronews.com offers corporate packages that have access to 100,000+ newsgroups |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Porsche is especially opposed to CO2 standards. They sell a 500 hp turbo Cayenne SUV. The US balance of trade will be radically affected if there is a worldwide food shortage, which may be shaping up. John |
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"John Larkin" wrote in
message On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Porsche is especially opposed to CO2 standards. They sell a 500 hp turbo Cayenne SUV. The US balance of trade will be radically affected if there is a worldwide food shortage, which may be shaping up. Are you saying there is a connection? -- Reply in group, but if emailing add another zero, and remove the last word. |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson I wish it were possible! But even developed countries such as the US, are both over populated, and have a growing population. I actually had to post numbers for the US on a group the other day because some idiot would not believe it. g |
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"PeterD" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson I wish it were possible! But even developed countries such as the US, are both over populated, and have a growing population. I actually had to post numbers for the US on a group the other day because some idiot would not believe it. g The USA is over-popluated? Cite? By what definition/std? MUCH of the US has less than a handful of persons per square mile. ???? Bo |
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PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham |
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Eeyore wrote:
PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham The "Balance of Trade" means the US needs to sell more cars. So "Balance" the number of cars in thrid world countries. The US has somewhere about 2.5 cars per family, and third world counties have about .5 cars per family. So to balance the trade, the US must ship cars over seas to help the balance of trade. We can ship any car over say three years old and make the families in the US buy new cars. This will help the car companies and balance the third world. easy donald |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:36:33 -0500, PeterD wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson I wish it were possible! But even developed countries such as the US, are both over populated, and have a growing population. I actually had to post numbers for the US on a group the other day because some idiot would not believe it. g Aren't we below "replacement"?... http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/census...abirthrate.htm ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:52:50 -0600, "Bo" wrote:
"PeterD" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson I wish it were possible! But even developed countries such as the US, are both over populated, and have a growing population. I actually had to post numbers for the US on a group the other day because some idiot would not believe it. g The USA is over-popluated? Cite? By what definition/std? MUCH of the US has less than a handful of persons per square mile. ???? Bo The United States is grossly overpopulated. Saying less than a handful is like saying that until we are all standing shoulder to shoulder things are just ducky. That's not true. Currently the US cannot produce enough food to feed the nation (we are now a food importer!), pollution (from overpopulation) is chokeing the air, and the quality of live is in a serious decline. OK, it's great if you are selling land to build new houses, but these people are the only ones who come out ahead, and that is not a substantial gain. A sustainable pouplation is one that can support itself, and not one person more. Saying that everyone needs to sacrifice so that a few more people can have more children (children that many can't afford to support, but that's a different issue) is not wise. |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:18:22 +0000, Eeyore
wrote: PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham Nature's working on it... bg |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:09:02 -0700, donald
wrote: Eeyore wrote: PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham The "Balance of Trade" means the US needs to sell more cars. So "Balance" the number of cars in thrid world countries. The US has somewhere about 2.5 cars per family, and third world counties have about .5 cars per family. So to balance the trade, the US must ship cars over seas to help the balance of trade. We can ship any car over say three years old and make the families in the US buy new cars. This will help the car companies and balance the third world. easy donald Bwa-ha-ha... I like that! bg |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:04:43 -0500, PeterD wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:52:50 -0600, "Bo" wrote: "PeterD" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson I wish it were possible! But even developed countries such as the US, are both over populated, and have a growing population. I actually had to post numbers for the US on a group the other day because some idiot would not believe it. g The USA is over-popluated? Cite? By what definition/std? MUCH of the US has less than a handful of persons per square mile. ???? Bo The United States is grossly overpopulated. Saying less than a handful is like saying that until we are all standing shoulder to shoulder things are just ducky. That's not true. Currently the US cannot produce enough food to feed the nation (we are now a food importer!), pollution (from overpopulation) is chokeing the air, and the quality of live is in a serious decline. OK, it's great if you are selling land to build new houses, but these people are the only ones who come out ahead, and that is not a substantial gain. A sustainable pouplation is one that can support itself, and not one person more. Saying that everyone needs to sacrifice so that a few more people can have more children (children that many can't afford to support, but that's a different issue) is not wise. What a crock of leftist-weenyism! We import food because of NAFTA and CHEAPER food from abroad! ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Eeyore wrote:
PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham Solyent Green, dumbAss. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:45:04 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Eeyore wrote: PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham Solyent Green, dumbAss. Leftist weenies, by definition, can't get it up ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson Thats the beauty of nature. If people dont control population, nature will take care of it, whether we like it or not. (Food /fuel running out ,antibiotic resistant bacteria and new plagues caused by overcrowding etc etc.) And if that does not do the trick, we always have war. |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote
in message What a crock of leftist-weenyism! We import food because of NAFTA and CHEAPER food from abroad! Not to mention that we also import 1.5 million people per year, and he's critisizing us for population growth. -- Reply in group, but if emailing add another zero, and remove the last word. |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? Pay them not to have babies. ;-) Thanks, Rich |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:07:14 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message What a crock of leftist-weenyism! We import food because of NAFTA and CHEAPER food from abroad! Not to mention that we also import 1.5 million people per year, and he's critisizing us for population growth. Now, now, I didn't say I in any way supported that import either! g |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:45:04 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Eeyore wrote: PeterD wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. It is ? News to me. How do you plan to reduce the population ? Graham Solyent Green, dumbAss. but... It's green! Proven fact, people don't like to eat green things! Try this: give someone a choice between a green colored donuts and a pink ones. Bet the pink one goes first! |
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"PeterD" wrote in message ... The USA is over-popluated? Cite? By what definition/std? MUCH of the US has less than a handful of persons per square mile. ???? Bo The United States is grossly overpopulated. Saying less than a handful is like saying that until we are all standing shoulder to shoulder things are just ducky. That's not true. That's a gross exaggeration... and a position I did not take. You claim we are grossly overpopulated. By what definition? And where's the data? Currently the US cannot produce enough food to feed the nation (we are now a food importer!), pollution (from overpopulation) is chokeing the air, and the quality of live is in a serious decline. Perhaps the USA is not producing enough to feed the nation--but IF that is true, its not because we lack the ability/resources. Your last statement.. can you back it up with any data? I am sure that some portion of the population's quality of lfe is in a decline. But, to make such a broad statement seems unsupported and disingenuous. http://esa.un.org/unpp/p2k0data.asp indicates by 2050 our poulation will be 42 people per sq. km. Japan's is CURRENTLY 338 persons/sq. km. So I guess your definition of overpopulated has nothing to do with population density? So I think we're OK for the foreseeable future. Unless we keep our southern border porous. But that's another subject... OK, it's great if you are selling land to build new houses, but these people are the only ones who come out ahead, and that is not a substantial gain. Which 'these people'? Most folks I know own or are making payments on their own land/houses. A sustainable pouplation is one that can support itself, and not one person more. Saying that everyone needs to sacrifice so that a few more people can have more children (children that many can't afford to support, but that's a different issue) is not wise. Seems that the difference in our views can be summarized by saying, I have faith in and that the people of the USA have the ability and resources to sustain themselves as a whole, whereas you do not. I wonder which countries you think are not overpopulated? and what your definition of overpopulated is? Bo |
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"PeterD" wrote in message
... Proven fact, people don't like to eat green things! Try this: give someone a choice between a green colored donuts and a pink ones. Bet the pink one goes first! Not on St. Patrick's Day. |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:04:43 -0500, PeterD wrote:
The United States is grossly overpopulated. Not by world standards. Saying less than a handful is like saying that until we are all standing shoulder to shoulder things are just ducky. That's not true. Currently the US cannot produce enough food to feed the nation (we are now a food importer!), Sure, but we export more, roughly $80 billion, and the trend seems to be towards more exports. pollution (from overpopulation) is chokeing the air, and the quality of live is in a serious decline. Wherever you live (next to a coal mine?), you should consider moving. In most of the US, air quality has improved greatly in the last few decades. John |
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On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:08:51 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:04:43 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:52:50 -0600, "Bo" wrote: "PeterD" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:19:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:43:53 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:04:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151862.stm ...Jim Thompson Idiots... The problem is over population, not cars. How do you get third world countries to practice birth control? ...Jim Thompson I wish it were possible! But even developed countries such as the US, are both over populated, and have a growing population. I actually had to post numbers for the US on a group the other day because some idiot would not believe it. g The USA is over-popluated? Cite? By what definition/std? MUCH of the US has less than a handful of persons per square mile. ???? Bo The United States is grossly overpopulated. Saying less than a handful is like saying that until we are all standing shoulder to shoulder things are just ducky. That's not true. Currently the US cannot produce enough food to feed the nation (we are now a food importer!), pollution (from overpopulation) is chokeing the air, and the quality of live is in a serious decline. OK, it's great if you are selling land to build new houses, but these people are the only ones who come out ahead, and that is not a substantial gain. A sustainable pouplation is one that can support itself, and not one person more. Saying that everyone needs to sacrifice so that a few more people can have more children (children that many can't afford to support, but that's a different issue) is not wise. What a crock of leftist-weenyism! We import food because of NAFTA and CHEAPER food from abroad! ...Jim Thompson And because we like brie, and grapes in February, and Swiss chocolate. We export a lot more. John |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:12:03 -0800, John Larkin
wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:04:43 -0500, PeterD wrote: The United States is grossly overpopulated. Not by world standards. Saying less than a handful is like saying that until we are all standing shoulder to shoulder things are just ducky. That's not true. Currently the US cannot produce enough food to feed the nation (we are now a food importer!), Sure, but we export more, roughly $80 billion, and the trend seems to be towards more exports. pollution (from overpopulation) is chokeing the air, and the quality of live is in a serious decline. Wherever you live (next to a coal mine?), you should consider moving. In most of the US, air quality has improved greatly in the last few decades. John Certainly that is so. I was involved with automotive pollution control devices in the '60's. Air quality was FAR worse than it is today. Now I can look to the SE and see the mountains near Tucson... almost 100 miles away. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message Certainly that is so. I was involved with automotive pollution control devices in the '60's. Did you feel at the time that it was unreasonable for the government to be mandating pollution controls? That perhaps just the "market" would sort things out -- consumers would demand cleaner-running cars once air pollution became bad enough? I'm just curious what your stance is on how society ought to decide what reasonable standards for pollution (or, almost equivalently, fuel efficiency) ought to be. Do you support Bush's approval yesterday or legislation to require average fuel economy to increase to 30MPG by 2010? By the way, the TCP/IP kid is certainly cute! Congratulations... ---Joel |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:25:57 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message Certainly that is so. I was involved with automotive pollution control devices in the '60's. Did you feel at the time that it was unreasonable for the government to be mandating pollution controls? Yes. That perhaps just the "market" would sort things out -- consumers would demand cleaner-running cars once air pollution became bad enough? Not then, but I think the public is more attuned to "clean" now. I'm just curious what your stance is on how society ought to decide what reasonable standards for pollution I'm for pollution standards. (or, almost equivalently, fuel efficiency) ought to be. I'm against the government, the dumbest bunch of people on the planet, deciding HOW it should be done. Do you support Bush's approval yesterday of legislation to require average fuel economy to increase to 30MPG by 2010? No. It's quite foolish. Most of the people will end up driving light weight cars that are unsafe. Of course I'll still be driving my tank. Want to collide ?:-) It would be better to tax gasoline, then let the marketplace find alternative fuels. By the way, the TCP/IP kid is certainly cute! Congratulations... ---Joel Thanks !-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:48:27 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:25:57 -0800, "Joel Koltner" wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message Certainly that is so. I was involved with automotive pollution control devices in the '60's. Did you feel at the time that it was unreasonable for the government to be mandating pollution controls? Yes. I mistyped... should be NO! That perhaps just the "market" would sort things out -- consumers would demand cleaner-running cars once air pollution became bad enough? Not then, but I think the public is more attuned to "clean" now. I'm just curious what your stance is on how society ought to decide what reasonable standards for pollution I'm for pollution standards. (or, almost equivalently, fuel efficiency) ought to be. I'm against the government, the dumbest bunch of people on the planet, deciding HOW it should be done. Do you support Bush's approval yesterday of legislation to require average fuel economy to increase to 30MPG by 2010? No. It's quite foolish. Most of the people will end up driving light weight cars that are unsafe. Of course I'll still be driving my tank. Want to collide ?:-) It would be better to tax gasoline, then let the marketplace find alternative fuels. By the way, the TCP/IP kid is certainly cute! Congratulations... ---Joel Thanks !-) ...Jim Thompson ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ... On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:25:57 -0800, "Joel Koltner" wrote: That perhaps just the "market" would sort things out -- consumers would demand cleaner-running cars once air pollution became bad enough? Not then, but I think the public is more attuned to "clean" now. OK. Would you go so far as to say the air would be as clean today as it is if government hadn't stepped in back in the '60s? That seems pretty unlikely to me. I'm against the government, the dumbest bunch of people on the planet, deciding HOW it should be done. Yeah, perennial problem though -- by definition the government is the only group that can compel auto-makers to meet emission requirements, but almost by definition government's actions always have a high degree of politics mixed in with any decent scientific reporting. No. It's quite foolish. Most of the people will end up driving light weight cars that are unsafe. Of course I'll still be driving my tank. Want to collide ?:-) Mmm... no. The comparison isn't entirely black and white, though: Yes, more people will likely be killed in collisions between larger vehicles and lighter ones, but how many people are saved due to less pollution kicking about? The former is easy to measure while the later is pretty much impossible... At times I have difficulty not just thinking, "You know, how about if we just halve the population and now everyone gets to drive a car that's half as fuel efficient and pollution still remains the same?" ---Joel |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ... I mistyped... should be NO! Ah, that makes more sense... it did seem a little non-sequitir based on the rest of your response. |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:09:04 -0800, "Joel Koltner"
wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:25:57 -0800, "Joel Koltner" wrote: That perhaps just the "market" would sort things out -- consumers would demand cleaner-running cars once air pollution became bad enough? Not then, but I think the public is more attuned to "clean" now. OK. Would you go so far as to say the air would be as clean today as it is if government hadn't stepped in back in the '60s? That seems pretty unlikely to me. I'm sure it made the air cleaner. It was noticeably cleaner by the early '70's. I'm against the government, the dumbest bunch of people on the planet, deciding HOW it should be done. Yeah, perennial problem though -- by definition the government is the only group that can compel auto-makers to meet emission requirements, but almost by definition government's actions always have a high degree of politics mixed in with any decent scientific reporting. No. It's quite foolish. Most of the people will end up driving light weight cars that are unsafe. Of course I'll still be driving my tank. Want to collide ?:-) Mmm... no. The comparison isn't entirely black and white, though: Yes, more people will likely be killed in collisions between larger vehicles and lighter ones, but how many people are saved due to less pollution kicking about? The former is easy to measure while the later is pretty much impossible... At times I have difficulty not just thinking, "You know, how about if we just halve the population and now everyone gets to drive a car that's half as fuel efficient and pollution still remains the same?" ---Joel Sno-o-o-ort ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:13:34 -0800, John Larkin
wrote: And because we like brie, and grapes in February, and Swiss chocolate. We export a lot more. John But not nearly enough: http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/ But again, nature is fixing that problem. The weak Dollar is making our exports more attractive, and making imports more expensive. |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:56:23 -0600, "Bo" wrote:
Seems that the difference in our views can be summarized by saying, I have faith in and that the people of the USA have the ability and resources to sustain themselves as a whole, whereas you do not. I wonder which countries you think are not overpopulated? and what your definition of overpopulated is? Bo This is a good discussion, and I think it should continue, but it is way off-topic here and perhaps we should move it elsewhere. Yes, I'm a bit (tiny bit!) radical on population... My utopian society is about the smallest that anyone would ever consider. I don't think it is a case of "we can make it work" but a case of "If we control our population, then some of the problems we have today will cease to be problems". You see a happy future, I'm a bit more pessimistic however. |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:03:13 -0500, "Greg Neill"
wrote: "PeterD" wrote in message .. . Proven fact, people don't like to eat green things! Try this: give someone a choice between a green colored donuts and a pink ones. Bet the pink one goes first! Not on St. Patrick's Day. I even thought of that when I made the post... g But I was thinking the other green stuff that day: green beer! hey, kids, I've got some nice lettuce flavored donuts, who want's some? |
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PeterD wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:45:04 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Solyent Green, dumbAss. but... It's green! Proven fact, people don't like to eat green things! Try this: give someone a choice between a green colored donuts and a pink ones. Bet the pink one goes first! I won't touch either color of Doughnut, I'm diabetic. I eat a lot of green foods. in fact, I just got home from the grocery where I bought four pounds of sliced green peppers (A mix of Red, Yellow, Green peppers, and onions) to make chili. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:10:17 -0500, PeterD wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:56:23 -0600, "Bo" wrote: Seems that the difference in our views can be summarized by saying, I have faith in and that the people of the USA have the ability and resources to sustain themselves as a whole, whereas you do not. I wonder which countries you think are not overpopulated? and what your definition of overpopulated is? Bo This is a good discussion, and I think it should continue, but it is way off-topic here and perhaps we should move it elsewhere. Yes, I'm a bit (tiny bit!) radical on population... My utopian society is about the smallest that anyone would ever consider. I don't think it is a case of "we can make it work" but a case of "If we control our population, then some of the problems we have today will cease to be problems". You see a happy future, I'm a bit more pessimistic however. You should be more concerned about the population of Africa. What are you doing about that ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:10:17 -0500, PeterD wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:56:23 -0600, "Bo" wrote: Seems that the difference in our views can be summarized by saying, I have faith in and that the people of the USA have the ability and resources to sustain themselves as a whole, whereas you do not. I wonder which countries you think are not overpopulated? and what your definition of overpopulated is? Bo This is a good discussion, and I think it should continue, but it is way off-topic here and perhaps we should move it elsewhere. Yes, I'm a bit (tiny bit!) radical on population... My utopian society is about the smallest that anyone would ever consider. I don't think it is a case of "we can make it work" but a case of "If we control our population, then some of the problems we have today will cease to be problems". You see a happy future, I'm a bit more pessimistic however. Only fairies and leftist weenies believe in utopia and man-caused global warming ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice 480)460-2350 | || E-mail Address at Website Fax 480)460-2142 | Brass Rat || http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:47:12 -0600, flipper wrote:
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:10:17 -0500, PeterD wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:56:23 -0600, "Bo" wrote: Seems that the difference in our views can be summarized by saying, I have faith in and that the people of the USA have the ability and resources to sustain themselves as a whole, whereas you do not. I wonder which countries you think are not overpopulated? and what your definition of overpopulated is? This is a good discussion, and I think it should continue, but it is way off-topic here and perhaps we should move it elsewhere. Yes, I'm a bit (tiny bit!) radical on population... My utopian society is about the smallest that anyone would ever consider. I don't think it is a case of "we can make it work" but a case of "If we control our population, then some of the problems we have today will cease to be problems". You see a happy future, I'm a bit more pessimistic however. Treating people like cattle only seems 'better' to those who fancy themselves cattle barons. The pro-"life"rs believe that women are cattle. In their twisted little version of reality, if a woman becomes pregnant, she no longer has any rights - only the fetus has rights. Gawd, I hate pro-lifers. :-[ Thanks. Rich |
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