Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a free LED
driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously denies any part in its
disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm beginning to
suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how it was packaged, glued
to the front cover/plastic envelope ........etc etc?

TIA.

On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a free
LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously denies any
part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how it
was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope ........etc
etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post. They
made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and distributing
150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they don't seem to have
even considered how to package it so that it would arrive safely at its
intended destination.

--
John B

"John B" wrote in message
t...
On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a free
LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously denies any
part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how it
was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope ........etc
etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post. They
made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and distributing
150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they don't seem to have
even considered how to package it so that it would arrive safely at its
intended destination.

That was pretty much about how they got them so cheap they could give
150,000 away - if it was so cheap maybe they could replace all the ones that
didn't make it one way or another.

John B posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a
free LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously
denies any part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how it
was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope ........etc
etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post. They
made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and distributing
150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they don't seem to have
even considered how to package it so that it would arrive safely at
its intended destination.


Sounds kind of typical in so many ways. The authors being hack
engineers presume that the publishers understand the reason that such
distribution takes place. The publishers not only do not, they are
seriously anathema against anything that requires any kind of special
handling, and they are ****ed about such inclusions and the impact on
the "bottom line". The authors only hope is to offset the added
costs with a payment from advertisers.

ian field posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:


"John B" wrote in message
t...
On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a
free LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously
denies any part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how
it was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope
........etc etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post. They
made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and distributing
150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they don't seem to
have even considered how to package it so that it would arrive
safely at its intended destination.

That was pretty much about how they got them so cheap they could
give 150,000 away - if it was so cheap maybe they could replace all
the ones that didn't make it one way or another.

No way, the labor involved would kill them. Except possibly using
cheap Chinese labor to just send duplicate inclusions to all
subscribers.

In message , ian field
writes
Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a free LED
driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously denies any part in its
disappearance.
Checked them in two local WH Smiths on Saturday, none had then and there
were no indications that they ever had them.

TIA.



--
Clint Sharp

"Clint Sharp" wrote in message
...
In message , ian field
writes
Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a free LED
driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously denies any part in
its
disappearance.
Checked them in two local WH Smiths on Saturday, none had then and there
were no indications that they ever had them.

If you look at the post from John B, you will see that his arrived but was
broken.

"JosephKK" wrote in message
t...
ian field posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:


"John B" wrote in message
t...
On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a
free LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously
denies any part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how
it was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope
........etc etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post. They
made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and distributing
150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they don't seem to
have even considered how to package it so that it would arrive
safely at its intended destination.

That was pretty much about how they got them so cheap they could
give 150,000 away - if it was so cheap maybe they could replace all
the ones that didn't make it one way or another.

No way, the labor involved would kill them. Except possibly using
cheap Chinese labor to just send duplicate inclusions to all
subscribers.

Why only subscribers?! - At least they got a broken one on the magazine
through the post, what I gather from subsequent posts I probably wasn't the
only one who bought from a newsagent that didn't get one at all!

flipper posted to alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:19:52 GMT, JosephKK
wrote:

John B posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a
free LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously
denies any part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me how
it was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope
........etc etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post.
They made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and
distributing 150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they
don't seem to have even considered how to package it so that it
would arrive safely at its intended destination.


Sounds kind of typical in so many ways.

Maybe, or maybe not, but in either case I disagree with your
analysis.

The authors being hack
engineers presume that the publishers understand the reason that
such distribution takes place.

Well, that would be not just a mistake but a whole raft of them.
What on earth would lead 'hack engineers' to presume the publisher's
understand their engineering, motivation, or unique expectations?
That isn't the publisher's job and it would be irrational to imagine
you could throw just whatever the heck you feel like at them and it
just 'magically' work out, and 'for free' no less.

The publishers not only do not, they are
seriously anathema against anything that requires any kind of
special handling, and they are ****ed about such inclusions and the
impact on the "bottom line".

Everybody works on a 'bottom line' and it's irrational to expect
someone else to not only read your mind and do your job for you but
eat the cost of it as well.

The authors only hope is to offset the added
costs with a payment from advertisers.

Part of that added cost is ensuring that their 'clever idea' works
and that appropriate publishing arrangements are made.

....

I rather suspect that neither were as 'unaware' as you suggest and
that they thought whatever the agreed upon means was would do the
job well enough but that, somewhere, somehow, someone missed or
underestimated a problem.

I had asserted that there was a mismatch between the engineers'
expectations and the publishers' constraints. Perhaps i conveyed it
poorly.

flipper posted to alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 05:04:25 GMT, JosephKK
wrote:

flipper posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:19:52 GMT, JosephKK
wrote:

John B posted to
alt.binaries.schematics.electronic:

On 26/08/2007 ian field wrote:

Apparently the September issue of Elektor is supposed to have a
free LED driver PCB - mine didn't and the newsagent vigorously
denies any part in its disappearance.

Its not the first time Elektor has arrived sans freebie and I'm
beginning to suspect foul play! Can any other reader tell me
how it was packaged, glued to the front cover/plastic envelope
........etc etc?

TIA.

Mine was attached to the top left corner with double sided tape.
Unfortunately the SM inductor had snapped in half in the post.
They made a great fuss in the magazine about developing and
distributing 150,000 units of this freebie, unfortunately they
don't seem to have even considered how to package it so that it
would arrive safely at its intended destination.


Sounds kind of typical in so many ways.

Maybe, or maybe not, but in either case I disagree with your
analysis.

The authors being hack
engineers presume that the publishers understand the reason that
such distribution takes place.

Well, that would be not just a mistake but a whole raft of them.
What on earth would lead 'hack engineers' to presume the
publisher's understand their engineering, motivation, or unique
expectations? That isn't the publisher's job and it would be
irrational to imagine you could throw just whatever the heck you
feel like at them and it just 'magically' work out, and 'for free'
no less.

The publishers not only do not, they are
seriously anathema against anything that requires any kind of
special handling, and they are ****ed about such inclusions and
the impact on the "bottom line".

Everybody works on a 'bottom line' and it's irrational to expect
someone else to not only read your mind and do your job for you
but eat the cost of it as well.

The authors only hope is to offset the added
costs with a payment from advertisers.

Part of that added cost is ensuring that their 'clever idea' works
and that appropriate publishing arrangements are made.

....

I rather suspect that neither were as 'unaware' as you suggest and
that they thought whatever the agreed upon means was would do the
job well enough but that, somewhere, somehow, someone missed or
underestimated a problem.

I had asserted that there was a mismatch between the engineers'
expectations and the publishers' constraints.

You did more than that. You detailed what you thought the 'mismatch'
was and it is that to which I disagreed.

Perhaps i conveyed it
poorly.

Naw, I think you conveyed what you meant just fine.

Then come up with better data and convince me.