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Looking for electrical tubing
jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search ,
buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton |
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"sheltech" wrote in message k.net... jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Are you talking about conduit? Usually comes in galvanised steel. |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:41 GMT, "sheltech"
wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. Google on 'mineral insulated cable'. Copper or stainless sheath, magnesium oxide insulation, copper conductors, all extruded as a unit to form a cable that is a fireproof BX. Naturally explosion proof, no sealing fittings needed - uses special termination nuts at each end. Popular for use around furnaces and foundries, and for fire alarm and suppression systems. And I suppose you could twirl it into a spring with a light fixture at the top. -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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Electrical tubing is often called EMT (Electrical Metalic Tubing. But I
don't know about 3/32" OD. Try a well supplied hobby store for brass and aluminum tubing in 1/32 inch increments. Pete Stanaitis ------------------------ sheltech wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 14:38:42 GMT, "nospam" wrote:
"sheltech" wrote in message nk.net... jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Are you talking about conduit? Usually comes in galvanised steel. He's looking for "fixture pipe" - but he wants the fancy stuff. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 11:20:14 -0500, spaco
wrote: Electrical tubing is often called EMT (Electrical Metalic Tubing. But I don't know about 3/32" OD. Try a well supplied hobby store for brass and aluminum tubing in 1/32 inch increments. Pete Stanaitis ------------------------ sheltech wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton Use copper or aluminum tubing - like fuel line *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:41 GMT, "sheltech" wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. Google on 'mineral insulated cable'. Copper or stainless sheath, magnesium oxide insulation, copper conductors, all extruded as a unit to form a cable that is a fireproof BX. Naturally explosion proof, no sealing fittings needed - uses special termination nuts at each end. Popular for use around furnaces and foundries, and for fire alarm and suppression systems. And I suppose you could twirl it into a spring with a light fixture at the top. -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. Now that sounds like some interesting stuff . Intentions are a bit more sophisticated than a twirled spring with a light fixture at the end. It would be for sophisticated twirly things with small light fixtures at the ends g. curious individuals can see the sort of thing I'm thinking about adding lighting elements to . http://www.sheltech.net (the lower right corner will linik to the page with pix and artistic jibberjabber , the upper left links to my mild-mannered -reporter -type business. Thanks for the info , all. Dar |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:41 GMT, "sheltech"
wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton http://www.smallparts.com look at part number TTRA-02 for aluminum, TTRB-02 for brass, TTRC-02 for copper, all 3/32" OD |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 21:51:12 -0500, Don Foreman
wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:41 GMT, "sheltech" wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton http://www.smallparts.com look at part number TTRA-02 for aluminum, TTRB-02 for brass, TTRC-02 for copper, all 3/32" OD But only available in 12 or 36" lengths. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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"sheltech" wrote in message k.net... jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton There's (or at least was) an outfit in Los Angeles that sold parts for chandeliers and such (and I'm sure there are similar in other cities....). Actually, they sold hundreds of different parts so that an artist could create a chandelier or repair an old one. Anyhow, they had lots and lots of tubing, fittings, glass parts, etc., etc., etc. So, Google on chandelier parts... Jerry |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 23:52:39 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
On Fri, 19 May 2006 21:51:12 -0500, Don Foreman wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:41 GMT, "sheltech" wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton http://www.smallparts.com look at part number TTRA-02 for aluminum, TTRB-02 for brass, TTRC-02 for copper, all 3/32" OD But only available in 12 or 36" lengths. You might also try google for Pyrotenax. I did not (too busy to do it right now, sorry), but that is the name of the copper-jacketed stuff they used to run fire alarm wiring in. I've only ever seen it, and I think it was more like 1/4" or 3/8". |
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 07:04:42 -0400, Brian Lawson
wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 23:52:39 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 21:51:12 -0500, Don Foreman wrote: On Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:41 GMT, "sheltech" wrote: jeez... If I knew what it was really called I could do a proper search , buuuut nnnnnnooooo ! . The stuff I want -and I know it's out there 'cause I saw something made with it- is small tubing/conduit with electrical wire running through it , or fed through it . It just DOH !!! dawned on me that maybe the approach is the same as with normal-sized conduit and wiring . What I saw though, was tubing about 3/32" dia. made into an attractive , medussa-like lighting fixture/sculpture. So... any refs for sources of such small tubing , either stainless , aluminum . And while we're at it , for small lighting supplies ,accessories , and etceteras ?. Thanks gents , DS http://www.sheltech.net http://www.soundclick.com/darshelton http://www.smallparts.com look at part number TTRA-02 for aluminum, TTRB-02 for brass, TTRC-02 for copper, all 3/32" OD But only available in 12 or 36" lengths. You might also try google for Pyrotenax. I did not (too busy to do it right now, sorry), but that is the name of the copper-jacketed stuff they used to run fire alarm wiring in. I've only ever seen it, and I think it was more like 1/4" or 3/8". There used to be something called aluclad as well. I think it is history though. I got some for a job about 3 years ago, and only one supplier had it avauilable, and the reel had almost an inch of dust on it.. Almost the same as pyrotenax, but not rated for as high a temperature. Pyrotenax is mineral insulated metallic sheathed, made by Philips Cables. It has a minimum temperature limit of 90C. Some is 2 hour fire rated, some is not. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 18:44:54 GMT, "sheltech"
wrote: Now that sounds like some interesting stuff . Intentions are a bit more sophisticated than a twirled spring with a light fixture at the end. It would be for sophisticated twirly things with small light fixtures at the ends g. curious individuals can see the sort of thing I'm thinking about adding lighting elements to . http://www.sheltech.net (the lower right corner will linik to the page with pix and artistic jibberjabber , the upper left links to my mild-mannered -reporter -type business. You want smaller - 3/32"? They make "hardline coax" for radio and radar internal wiring and coiled-up delay lines - factory made tinned copper tubing sheath with one conductor down the middle. Comes in big coils, you will need a wire straightening jig to get straight sections. If you make your lighting system 12V "Class II Low Power" you can use this for lights, but don't expect more than a few candlepower at each terminus. You would have to redesign your joint "arrows" to have a splice point at the center. -- Bruce -- |
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