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Harbor Freight Electronic Fly Swatter???
I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor
Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? |
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On Jun 7, 6:40*pm, "hr(bob) "
wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Ia have a few of them and they work great, well the one with fully expensed wires does, the other one has grids of plastic to make it Kid safe and it's harder to get the mosquitos in, it even kills bees and horse flies , one wire must be positive and one neutral , I used to walk my dog where there were deer flies and had to stop in summer till I got the racket, mine were 15$ , if the wires are fully exposed get a few of them. |
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Harbor Freight Electronic Fly Swatter???
I've had one of these for about four years. Gag gift from my Kids. IT does
work, if you get the flys to cooperate. Same principle as the Outside "Bug Zapper" Bill H. "hr(bob) " wrote in message ... I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? |
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ransley wrote:
On Jun 7, 6:40 pm, "hr(bob) " wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Ia have a few of them and they work great, well the one with fully expensed wires does, the other one has grids of plastic to make it Kid safe and it's harder to get the mosquitos in, it even kills bees and horse flies , one wire must be positive and one neutral , I used to walk my dog where there were deer flies and had to stop in summer till I got the racket, mine were 15$ , if the wires are fully exposed get a few of them. Glad to hear it works. I bought one for camp. Greg |
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On Jun 7, 7:40*pm, "hr(bob) "
wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? I have one. Works great...like a bug zapper. The only thing is, you can't swing it against things like you can with a flexible fly swatter since it's hard plastic. You have to hit bugs on the fly by startling them to leave wherever they're sitting and fly into the grid. Once that happens, the sparks and crackling begin. Just in case you're wondering, it hurts like heck if you touch the grid when it's energized. DAMHIKT |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
-snip- Just in case you're wondering, it hurts like heck if you touch the grid when it's energized. DAMHIKT I laughed at my son when he told me that. Then I was testing it one day. Glad I was outside-- Happy to report the swatter will survive being thrown 20 feet in the air and landing on the lawn. Jim |
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On Jun 8, 8:19*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) " wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Kill bugs! *with a loud SNAP and a big spark! * Where have you been, man. * * They are more fun than the twitchin' tool. That's a high price, though. * I buy a couple every time I see them for $4 at the 'dollar' stores or HF. Warning-- *If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. * *That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim I bought a bunch of them at HF as gag gifts a few years ago. $2 |
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:19:04 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) " wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Kill bugs! with a loud SNAP and a big spark! Where have you been, man. They are more fun than the twitchin' tool. That's a high price, though. I buy a couple every time I see them for $4 at the 'dollar' stores or HF. Warning-- If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? Quite easily. The three volts is fed to an oscillator. The output of the oscillator is fed to a 10,000:1 transformer. You end up with 30,000 volts (give or take) across the transformer's secondary winding. There's really no practical limit to the voltage output than can be had from a 3 volt input. |
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On 2012-06-08, Jim Yanik wrote:
I saw a video on America's Funniest Home Videos where a guy tried to use the zapper-swatter on wasps,and got stung. Yeah. Ya gotta get way too close, IMO. I'll stick with my can of Black Flag wasp killer. Sucker shoots a 10' stream that'll take 'em out mid-flight. nb -- vi --the heart of evil! Support labeling GMOs http://www.labelgmos.org/ |
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Oscillator and transformer.
I remember from some where, that tasers (used to shock people) might run on a 9 volt transistor battery. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "dgk" wrote in message Warning-- If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? |
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On Jun 8, 7:55*am, "
wrote: On Jun 8, 8:19*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) " wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Kill bugs! *with a loud SNAP and a big spark! * Where have you been, man. * * They are more fun than the twitchin' tool. That's a high price, though. * I buy a couple every time I see them for $4 at the 'dollar' stores or HF. Warning-- *If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. * *That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim I bought a bunch of them at HF as gag gifts a few years ago. *$2- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, with inflation they are now $2.49 on sale. |
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"HeyBub" wrote:
dgk wrote: -snip- From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? Quite easily. The three volts is fed to an oscillator. The output of the oscillator is fed to a 10,000:1 transformer. You end up with 30,000 volts (give or take) across the transformer's secondary winding. There's really no practical limit to the voltage output than can be had from a 3 volt input. And while it is the "amperage that kills you"- all those volts sure get your attention in a hurry. Oh-- and the best ones we've gotten so far use 2 c cells. The D cell ones we have either have flakey switches or a weird oscillator/transformer-- you can hit the bug for a while and nothing happens--- then it goes crazy when you shake it and nothing is on it. Heybub-- is 10K:1 the actual transformer on one of these-- or is that a guesstimate? An |
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On Jun 8, 8:21*am, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: -snip- Just in case you're wondering, it hurts like heck if you touch the grid when it's energized. DAMHIKT I laughed at my son when he told me that. * *Then I was testing it one day. * Glad I was outside-- Happy to report the swatter will survive being thrown 20 feet in the air and landing on the lawn. Jim I didn't throw mine, but my arm was sore for a while. By that I mean several minutes (IIRC). Certainly long enough that I won't test it again. Of course, it was nothing like the time during USCG Electronics School that I got hooked onto a 400VDC power supply, hand to hand, across the chest, until someone pulled the plug. I came back to class the next day but 2 other guys who had witnessed the event quit Electronics School and decide on a different career path. Wimps. |
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Jim Elbrecht wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote: dgk wrote: -snip- From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? Quite easily. The three volts is fed to an oscillator. The output of the oscillator is fed to a 10,000:1 transformer. You end up with 30,000 volts (give or take) across the transformer's secondary winding. There's really no practical limit to the voltage output than can be had from a 3 volt input. And while it is the "amperage that kills you"- all those volts sure get your attention in a hurry. Oh-- and the best ones we've gotten so far use 2 c cells. The D cell ones we have either have flakey switches or a weird oscillator/transformer-- you can hit the bug for a while and nothing happens--- then it goes crazy when you shake it and nothing is on it. Heybub-- is 10K:1 the actual transformer on one of these-- or is that a guesstimate? I have not idea what the actual voltage in a fly swatter might be. I picked 10,000:1 as an example of stepping up a DC voltage. I've seen the reverse, too. In making a home-made spot welder, you might use a 1:250 ratio transformer to convert 120v down to 0.5 volts at 200 amps. |
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"HeyBub" wrote:
Jim Elbrecht wrote: -snip- Heybub-- is 10K:1 the actual transformer on one of these-- or is that a guesstimate? I have not idea what the actual voltage in a fly swatter might be. I picked 10,000:1 as an example of stepping up a DC voltage. Thanks-- I'll tear one apart one of these days. In the meantime, my arm says 30,000V is about right.g [I just wiki-pedia'd it. *They* say 1K-2.5K --- but I'm stickin' with 30K.g] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyswatter Jim |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Oscillator and transformer. I remember from some where, that tasers (used to shock people) might run on a 9 volt transistor battery. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "dgk" wrote in message Warning-- If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? How can walking across a wool carpet on a cold (outside) winter day and touching a grounded object produce enough voltage/amperage to shock a person? In my dorm in Cambridge Mass, I could draw a 3/4" spark. How much more/less power than a couple D cells does a magnet moving past a coil in a lawnmower magneto produce. Try one of those. At enough voltage, it doesn't take much current to hurt. And it only takes a few milliamps to kill. |
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On Jun 8, 6:22*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: Oscillator and transformer. I remember from some where, that *tasers (used to shock people) might run on a 9 volt transistor battery. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "dgk" wrote in message Warning-- *If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. * *That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? How can walking across a wool carpet on a cold (outside) winter day and touching a grounded object produce enough voltage/amperage to shock a person? In my dorm in Cambridge Mass, I could draw a 3/4" spark. How much more/less power than a couple D cells does a magnet moving past a coil in a lawnmower magneto produce. Try one of those. At enough voltage, it doesn't take much current to hurt. And it only takes a few milliamps to kill.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - DC is worse than AC, with AC there is a momentary time when the voltage/current goes thru zero and muscles can relax and let go(sometimes), With DC there is no such chance. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:21 am, Jim Elbrecht wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: -snip- Just in case you're wondering, it hurts like heck if you touch the grid when it's energized. DAMHIKT I laughed at my son when he told me that. Then I was testing it one day. Glad I was outside-- Happy to report the swatter will survive being thrown 20 feet in the air and landing on the lawn. Jim I didn't throw mine, but my arm was sore for a while. By that I mean several minutes (IIRC). Certainly long enough that I won't test it again. Of course, it was nothing like the time during USCG Electronics School that I got hooked onto a 400VDC power supply, hand to hand, across the chest, until someone pulled the plug. I came back to class the next day but 2 other guys who had witnessed the event quit Electronics School and decide on a different career path. Wimps. I got 500 vdc once, no one around. High current. A fly swatter is likely to be less than 30 ma dc max peak. Greg |
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2012 08:48:04 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote:
dgk wrote: On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:19:04 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) " wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Kill bugs! with a loud SNAP and a big spark! Where have you been, man. They are more fun than the twitchin' tool. That's a high price, though. I buy a couple every time I see them for $4 at the 'dollar' stores or HF. Warning-- If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? Quite easily. The three volts is fed to an oscillator. The output of the oscillator is fed to a 10,000:1 transformer. You end up with 30,000 volts (give or take) across the transformer's secondary winding. No need for the transformer, even. A switch (oscillator) into an inductor will create a "flyback" voltage of pretty much anything you want. It's generally easier to combine the two, though; A "flyback" switch/inductor with a secondary step-up transformer. It's also known as an "ignition coil". ;-) There's really no practical limit to the voltage output than can be had from a 3 volt input. |
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Something in the dim recess of my memory, AC is much more dangerous, which
is why Thomas Edison wanted to make only DC power plants. But, DC doesn't travel down the wire very far. And, so AC won out for power transmission, cause it goes farther. Parts of NYC used to have a power plant every couple blocks, with DC power being supplied to the people. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "hr(bob) " wrote in message news:dbc829d4-2618-4702- And it only takes a few milliamps to kill.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - DC is worse than AC, with AC there is a momentary time when the voltage/current goes thru zero and muscles can relax and let go(sometimes), With DC there is no such chance. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Something in the dim recess of my memory, AC is much more dangerous, which is why Thomas Edison wanted to make only DC power plants. But, DC doesn't travel down the wire very far. And, so AC won out for power transmission, cause it goes farther. Parts of NYC used to have a power plant every couple blocks, with DC power being supplied to the people. DC is the method of choice these days for long distance transmission. Back then, converting to high voltage DC wasn't so easy. Converting AC was. Edison seemed to have a strong opinion, not well based in facts, perhaps. |
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On Jun 9, 8:19*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Something in the dim recess of my memory, *AC is much more dangerous, which is why Thomas Edison wanted to make only DC power plants. But, DC doesn't travel down the wire very far. And, so AC won out for power transmission, cause it goes farther. Parts of NYC used to have a power plant every couple blocks, with DC power being supplied to the people. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "hr(bob) " wrote in message news:dbc829d4-2618-4702- And it only takes a few milliamps to kill.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - DC is worse than AC, with AC there is a momentary time when the voltage/current goes thru zero and muscles can relax and let go(sometimes), With DC there is no such chance. The benefits of DC are that power losses for the same amount of power received at the far end. are lower. Transformers can't work on DC, and they are necessary to raise the voltage to high levels so current levels can be lower and losses lower. So, until transformers became understood, as Tesla did and Edison didn't, there was that controversy. Only with the advent of transistors capable of switching DC and making it into AC was high voltage long-distance transmission of DC practical. |
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:28:33 -0400, dgk wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:19:04 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote: On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:40:27 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) " wrote: I thought I had seen almost everything electronic, but a Harbor Freight ad in this weeks junk advertising flyer had a super coupon for a "7.99 electronic fly swatter on sale with the coupon for only $2.49, requires two D batteries (old separately)". It looks like an oversize tennis or badminton racquet. Not a clue if the batteries are hooked up to a grid to electrocute any fly that crosses paths with the swatter, or if you get a shock if you miss the fly, or whatever. Does anyone know what this thing actually is supposed to do "electronically"? Kill bugs! with a loud SNAP and a big spark! Where have you been, man. They are more fun than the twitchin' tool. That's a high price, though. I buy a couple every time I see them for $4 at the 'dollar' stores or HF. Warning-- If it doesn't seem like it is working, *DON'T* touch the damn thing. That jolt is stronger than the buzz you get from a 110 line. Jim From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? Guess you've never seen a cattle prod in use. The older ones run on D cells. I think they use 4 or 6 of them. The newer ones seem to be rechargable. http://www.flemingoutdoors.com/cattleprods.html They'll shock a cow real fast, and there is a large arc and loud snap. I've seen them in use. I'd sure hate to get zapped with one. If I ever find one cheap at a garage sale or auction, I'll buy it just to open it and play with the electronics inside. (I dont own cattle, and would not use it on them if I did..... seems cruel). On the other hand, I have gotten zapped with an electric fence many times. Once I was sweating and got it against my forehead. Knocked me right on my ass. |
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From two D cells? Well, I failed physics in the Rainbarrel thread, so I'll try again. How can 2 D cells produce enough voltage/amperage/whatever to shock a person? Guess you've never seen a cattle prod in use. The older ones run on D cells. I think they use 4 or 6 of them. The newer ones seem to be rechargable. http://www.flemingoutdoors.com/cattleprods.html They'll shock a cow real fast, and there is a large arc and loud snap. I've seen them in use. I'd sure hate to get zapped with one. If I ever find one cheap at a garage sale or auction, I'll buy it just to open it and play with the electronics inside. (I dont own cattle, and would not use it on them if I did..... seems cruel). Back in the day, when I was a cop, one or two officers had 6-cell Maglite flashlights. Except that the flashlight contained only FIVE cells. The space formerly taken up by the bottom D-cell contained an, um, "goblin getter," attached to two 1/4" pins in the base of the flashlight. If the stink-eye wouldn't cooperate by following some simplest request ("Okay, asshole, what is the largest prime number less than 100,000? Eh? Eh?"), he, or rarely she, could be encouraged to follow a righteous path. Sometimes for as long as ten minutes! In police equipment catalogs, I've seen punk-prods thinly disguised as regulation batons. |
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On 10 Jun 2012 11:37:34 GMT, notbob wrote:
On the other hand, I have gotten zapped with an electric fence many times. Gee... only took once fer me. That's pretty much the general idea. My friend tells me that. He tells the story of ****ing a hot fence wire.... I know better. Some things you don't have to learn the "hard way" :-\ |
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