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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that
using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Yeah, and putting a penny behind an old fashioned glass fuse will keep the
fuse from blowing g. Seriously, I'd first try chagng the bulb and if that didn't work Id change out the socket. I sure wouldnt coat the contacts or bulb threads with vaseline. There is a dielectric grease used in autombiles for the plug wire boot to spark plug connection. Id have more confidence in that to withstand temperatures and current flowthan I would mere vaseline, which, IIRC, liquifies at relatively low temperatures and which will ignite. -- Jim McLaughlin Reply address is deliberately munged. If you really need to reply directly, try: jimdotmclaughlinatcomcastdotcom And you know it is a dotnet not a dotcom address. "Teh Suck" wrote in message ... I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:33:10 GMT, "Teh Suck"
wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? I don't know if vaseline will give problems or not, although I think it would be easy enough to clean after the problems start. There was a long thread about this in sci.electronics.repair within the last 18 months iirc. You can find it with groups.google . The simple answer is that you can get what you want at an autoparts store, and it's called electrical grease, or something. If that's not it, the clerk should know. IIRC it was between 5 and 10 dollars which is a lot for grease! It's used a lot in parking and tail lights, or high current switches. In my case, I was trying to repair an auto heater fan speed switch. My favorite speed, 2, didn't work. The other three did. My first repair, where I just cleaned the contact and moved the grease around a little, worked fine until the final step in reassembly, and then it was as bad as before, so I wanted to try again and maybe replace the grease. I took it apart again, spread the old grease around again, and when I put it back together, it worked fine, and has for a year now. Thanks. Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let me know if you have posted also. |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Teh Suck wrote:
I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. Sure it is ok. Worst case, if the temperature is too high, it might char and the bulb could start to flicker. But, a lubricant on bulbs is used mainly to keep bulbs from sticking in the socket. A high temperature silicone grease, e.g., spark plug boot grease, is usually suggest as the best. Costly but all you need is very thin smear. |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Vaseline works fine for this. You just need a little bit. Back in the
60's my dad had a motel down in GA. Big sign out front must have had a hundred bulbs or more and the installer reccomended using vaseline on the bulbs. Never had a stuck bulb or corroded socket. Where I work we use silicon dielectric grease, again a little dab will do ya. Keeps the contacts from oxidizing and keeps the bulb and socket from siezing. |
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I sure wouldnt coat the contacts or bulb threads with vaseline. You might, after looking up "fretting corrosion." Nick |
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Teh Suck wrote:
I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. I would suggest that a better solution is to clean the contacts of the lamp and the socket (center contact and threads). Of course you need to make sure the power is off. It is a sad fact that many lamps today are using cheap poor materials for the lamp bases. Usually aluminum rather than the brass that works well. They even often color it to look like brass. The result is poor contacts and overheated sockets. As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
I fix office machines for a living.
vaseline when heated can turn to rock Its a bad idea, clean the contacts of the socket or replace the socket BEFORE it causes a fire!. sockets are generally cheap die electric grease is ok but non conductive, the original poster is probably using the vaseline as a minor conductor. had a idiot customer grease 10 machines drive systems with vaseline,. geez what a mess. had to clean them all with gasoline he was greasing VCRs with vasoline too He hadnt got the bill for that one yet when I last saw him. on my next visit he wasnt around, i asked they said he is no longer working here/ he probably got fired WD40 is another no no its not a lubricant either and turns to crud ater awhile |
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... Jim McLaughlin wrote: I sure wouldnt coat the contacts or bulb threads with vaseline. You might, after looking up "fretting corrosion." Nick No, I wouldn't. If I used a lube, as I said in my reply to the OP, I'd, in order: 1. Replace bulb 2. replace socket 3. Use the spark plug boot di electric. Which seems to be the uniform response here among folks who have replied. - Jim McLaughlin Reply address is deliberately munged. If you really need to reply directly, try: jimdotmclaughlinatcomcastdotcom And you know it is a dotnet not a dotcom address. |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Teh Suck wrote:
I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. The flickering was probably being caused by the bulb threads galling on the socket threads and preventing the bulb from making that last little bit of turning needed to establish firm contact between the tip and the socket center contact. The Vaseline greased the way for it to tighten more. But, for a light bulb lubricant......Do what I do guys... Just use squalene, which is the oil which appears on the OUTSIDE of your nose. Rub the base of the bulb on the side of your nose while rotating it a bit. Squaline (nose oil) was being used as a lubricant by clockmakers long before the light bulb was invented. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Joseph Meehan wrote:
Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. I would suggest that a better solution is to clean the contacts of the lamp and the socket (center contact and threads). Of course you need to make sure the power is off. It is a sad fact that many lamps today are using cheap poor materials for the lamp bases. Usually aluminum rather than the brass that works well. They even often color it to look like brass. The result is poor contacts and overheated sockets. As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. At high temperatures it can char and possibly cause conductivity problems, but in that case the Vaseline should be the least of ones worries. |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. The flickering was probably being caused by the bulb threads galling on the socket threads and preventing the bulb from making that last little bit of turning needed to establish firm contact between the tip and the socket center contact. The Vaseline greased the way for it to tighten more. But, for a light bulb lubricant......Do what I do guys... Just use squalene, which is the oil which appears on the OUTSIDE of your nose. Rub the base of the bulb on the side of your nose while rotating it a bit. Squaline (nose oil) was being used as a lubricant by clockmakers long before the light bulb was invented. Jeff I thought they used sperm oil (from the sperm whale). Gotta put this in the historical context of hunting whales and clock and watch making. People have had oil lamps long before metal clockworks were invented, so they all had a supply of oil some of which worked and some of which didn't. You don't suppose the salt in whatever you wipe off your nose would corrode metal? |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
"Teh Suck" wrote in message ... I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. Here is a link that someone posted to this group a while back. I haven't tried this stuff, but it seems to be what you are looking for: http://lampsplus.com/Products/Light-Bulbs/page_12/03877 |
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An electrical grease for a light bulb?
Some may laugh, but I have heard of that several times from reliable
sources. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit "Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message ... Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. The flickering was probably being caused by the bulb threads galling on the socket threads and preventing the bulb from making that last little bit of turning needed to establish firm contact between the tip and the socket center contact. The Vaseline greased the way for it to tighten more. But, for a light bulb lubricant......Do what I do guys... Just use squalene, which is the oil which appears on the OUTSIDE of your nose. Rub the base of the bulb on the side of your nose while rotating it a bit. Squaline (nose oil) was being used as a lubricant by clockmakers long before the light bulb was invented. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
... Joseph Meehan wrote: Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. I would suggest that a better solution is to clean the contacts of the lamp and the socket (center contact and threads). Of course you need to make sure the power is off. It is a sad fact that many lamps today are using cheap poor materials for the lamp bases. Usually aluminum rather than the brass that works well. They even often color it to look like brass. The result is poor contacts and overheated sockets. As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. At high temperatures it can char and possibly cause conductivity problems, but in that case the Vaseline should be the least of ones worries. Frankly I don't have an answer to it. I have read it, I recall it being a reliable source, but I no longer remember the source and I do not recall the exact reason. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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Joseph Meehan wrote:
Some may laugh, but I have heard of that several times from reliable sources. Don't laff at this one either, but If I'm suffering from dry chapped lips in the winter, using my finger to transfer some of that squalene from the outside of my nose to my lips makes them feel decidedly better. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:43:24 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" wrote: wrote: I fix office machines for a living. vaseline when heated can turn to rock Of course it does, as does any petroleum product. Its a bad idea, clean the contacts of the socket or replace the socket BEFORE it causes a fire!. sockets are generally cheap Humbug. A large proportion of problems with sockets is the result of screwing the bulb to tight and deforming the center contact. Then the next person screws in a bulb and lack of good contact causes some sparking. In most cases, all you need to do is clean the center contact if it shows signs of burning and bend it back to where it is suppose to be. Most of these problems could be avoided by not screwing bulbs in like an ape. die electric grease is ok but non conductive, the original poster is probably using the vaseline as a minor conductor. Another humbug. Vaseline is non conductive. "Vaseline" is often combined with other substances, and that may not be obvious to the casual observer. You cannot ever assume that any given container labeled "Vaseline" contains a product that is non-conductive. Nonsense. Vaseline is a tradename for petroleum jelly and is not combined with other products, otherwise it would not be Vaseline. Anything that says it is white petroleum jelly or white petrolatum USP is the same substance. It is nonconductive, just like most any pure oil or grease made from petroleum. You have it backwards, it is other products that may not list the petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly is used in lots of products such as mentholatum and vaporub, they may not say that the inactive ingredient is petroleum jelly. |
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Joseph Meehan wrote:
"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Joseph Meehan wrote: Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. I would suggest that a better solution is to clean the contacts of the lamp and the socket (center contact and threads). Of course you need to make sure the power is off. It is a sad fact that many lamps today are using cheap poor materials for the lamp bases. Usually aluminum rather than the brass that works well. They even often color it to look like brass. The result is poor contacts and overheated sockets. As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. At high temperatures it can char and possibly cause conductivity problems, but in that case the Vaseline should be the least of ones worries. Frankly I don't have an answer to it. I have read it, I recall it being a reliable source, but I no longer remember the source and I do not recall the exact reason. It obviously wasn't and isn't a reliable source, since the statement isn't true. |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote: Some may laugh, but I have heard of that several times from reliable sources. Don't laff at this one either, but If I'm suffering from dry chapped lips in the winter, using my finger to transfer some of that squalene from the outside of my nose to my lips makes them feel decidedly better. Jeff Isn't that called picking your nose? |
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"Teh Suck" wrote in
: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. Sounds like a good joke on the SWMBO;send her to the store for "light bulb grease". -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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George E. Cawthon wrote:
Joseph Meehan wrote: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... .... As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. At high temperatures it can char and possibly cause conductivity problems, but in that case the Vaseline should be the least of ones worries. Frankly I don't have an answer to it. I have read it, I recall it being a reliable source, but I no longer remember the source and I do not recall the exact reason. It obviously wasn't and isn't a reliable source, since the statement isn't true. What statement are you talking about? What source are you saying is not reliable? In any case the statements I referred to have not been proven wrong any more than the idea that Vaseline is safe for the indicated use has been proven right. Both appear to be a matter of opinion and memory (which at least in my case is subject to imperfections. I will stick with the proper product, it's cheap and I keep some in my garage. -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:45:38 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" wrote: Mys Terry wrote: On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:43:24 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" wrote: wrote: I fix office machines for a living. vaseline when heated can turn to rock Of course it does, as does any petroleum product. Its a bad idea, clean the contacts of the socket or replace the socket BEFORE it causes a fire!. sockets are generally cheap Humbug. A large proportion of problems with sockets is the result of screwing the bulb to tight and deforming the center contact. Then the next person screws in a bulb and lack of good contact causes some sparking. In most cases, all you need to do is clean the center contact if it shows signs of burning and bend it back to where it is suppose to be. Most of these problems could be avoided by not screwing bulbs in like an ape. die electric grease is ok but non conductive, the original poster is probably using the vaseline as a minor conductor. Another humbug. Vaseline is non conductive. "Vaseline" is often combined with other substances, and that may not be obvious to the casual observer. You cannot ever assume that any given container labeled "Vaseline" contains a product that is non-conductive. Nonsense. Vaseline is a tradename for petroleum jelly and is not combined with other products, otherwise it would not be Vaseline. Anything that says it is white petroleum jelly or white petrolatum USP is the same substance. It is nonconductive, just like most any pure oil or grease made from petroleum. You have it backwards, it is other products that may not list the petroleum jelly. Petroleum jelly is used in lots of products such as mentholatum and vaporub, they may not say that the inactive ingredient is petroleum jelly. You are emphatically and totally WRONG. There are a wide variety of products labled as "vaseline" that are not pure petroleum jelly. Who are you hoping to kill with your ignorance? And you don't know that Vaseline is a tradename owned by Chesebrough-Pond's? Yes under the tradename there are many products including lip balm and various lotions. But "Vaseline" alone is generally considered to mean petroleum jelly. Just like "thermos" is used to mean any brand of vacuum bottle. But just for you, be sure if it the container says "Vaseline" or any other trade name that it also says petroleum jelly or petrolatum. Wouldn't want you putting an electrically conductive (or is it?) product like Vaseline Intensive Care (a lotion) on your lightbulbs. Bye-bye! |
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:55:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" wrote: Joseph Meehan wrote: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Joseph Meehan wrote: Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. I would suggest that a better solution is to clean the contacts of the lamp and the socket (center contact and threads). Of course you need to make sure the power is off. It is a sad fact that many lamps today are using cheap poor materials for the lamp bases. Usually aluminum rather than the brass that works well. They even often color it to look like brass. The result is poor contacts and overheated sockets. As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. At high temperatures it can char and possibly cause conductivity problems, but in that case the Vaseline should be the least of ones worries. Frankly I don't have an answer to it. I have read it, I recall it being a reliable source, but I no longer remember the source and I do not recall the exact reason. It obviously wasn't and isn't a reliable source, since the statement isn't true. Some products sold and labeled as "Vaseline" can and will produce carbon particles when heated. FACT Some products sold and labled as "Vaseline" may be either acidic or caustic. FACT George Cawthon may be belligerent, but he's also often incorrect. Ask him for independant cites that can be checked when he makes claims. I'm not belligerent, I'm happy for you! |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:09:29 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:55:48 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" wrote: Joseph Meehan wrote: "George E. Cawthon" wrote in message ... Joseph Meehan wrote: Teh Suck wrote: I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. At high temperatures it can char and possibly cause conductivity problems, but in that case the Vaseline should be the least of ones worries. It obviously wasn't and isn't a reliable source, since the statement isn't true. Some products sold and labeled as "Vaseline" can and will produce carbon particles when heated. FACT Some products sold and labled as "Vaseline" may be either acidic or caustic. FACT Calling this a FACT is bending the truth a bit. You should be a bit more specific. Pure vaseline, known as petrolatum is neither acidic or basic on the normal acidity or basicity scales we are talking about here. It is a mixture of high flashpoint aliphatic hydrocarbons. Now for many commercial applications, the term vaseline is often used with other descriptive words or phrases. Those other words represent materials added to petrolatum which may impart acidity, bascity, or other desirable properties to the petrolatumvaseline base. If the petrolatum itself is modified by oxidation or has not been subjected to to strict quality control, then as an impure material, it may have a small amount of low acidity materia or aromatic hydrocarbons present, but this is no longer considered pure vaseline/petrolatum. Gary Dyrkacz Radio Control Aircraft/Paintball Physics/Paintball for 40+ http://home.comcast.net/~dyrgcmn/ |
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Gary Dyrkacz wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:09:29 GMT, Mys Terry ... Some products sold and labled as "Vaseline" may be either acidic or caustic. FACT Calling this a FACT is bending the truth a bit. You should be a bit more specific. Pure vaseline, known as petrolatum is neither acidic I believe that Mys Terry was very clean with the phrase "Some products sold and labled as 'Vaseline'.." -- Joseph Meehan Dia duit |
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"Gary Dyrkacz" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:09:29 GMT, Mys Terry wrote: As for Vaseline, I have heard that it can cause problems (corrosion). If you are going to use a product like that I suggest the dielectric grease made for electrical contacts. It is available in many auto part stores in small inexpensive sizes. I can't see how Vaseline could cause corrosion. That's like someone suggesting that motor oil causes corrosion or that wheel grease causes bearing corrosion. Some products sold and labeled as "Vaseline" can and will produce carbon particles when heated. FACT Some products sold and labled as "Vaseline" may be either acidic or caustic. FACT Calling this a FACT is bending the truth a bit. One time a thing occured to me What's real, and what's for sale? Blew a kiss and tried to take it home It isn't you, isn't me Search for things that you can't see Going blind, out of reach Somewhere in the vaseline Two times and it has rendered me Punch drunk and without bail Think I'd be safer all alone Flys in the vasoline we are Sometimes it blows my mind Keep getting stuck here all the time You'll see the look and you'll see the lies You'll eat the lies, and you will. It isn't you, isn't me Search for things that you can't see Going blind, out of reach Somewhere in the vasoline. |
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Teh Suck posted for all of us...
I don't top post - see either inline or at bottom. I was having some problems with a flickering light bulb and I read that using Vaseline on the contacts can remedy this problem. I tried this and worked great. Is this okay to use long term? Or would some kind of grease made specifically for electric purposes be better? If so, can anyone recommend one? Thanks. I use a product called 'Bulb Grease" made by ITW/Devcon only place around here that carries it is Sears Hardware. -- My boss said I was dumb and apathetic. I said I don't know and I don't care... Tekkie |
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