I've just stripped the gears in my close-quarter 379-1 Milwaukee drill again so it's time for something a little
heavier. Primary use is drilling 5/8" up to 1" holes through studs and joists for house wiring. The idea of 4 1/2"
capacity for the odd drain or whatever is nice. These are my possibilities so far. Prices are close enough not to care.

http://www.makita.com/Tools_Item_View.asp?id=325

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/weba...entProd=281143

thanks
Nigel

In article ,
Nigel Burnett wrote:

I've just stripped the gears in my close-quarter 379-1 Milwaukee drill again
so it's time for something a little
heavier. Primary use is drilling 5/8" up to 1" holes through studs and joists
for house wiring. The idea of 4 1/2"
capacity for the odd drain or whatever is nice. These are my possibilities so
far. Prices are close enough not to care.


I love my 379. But I use it as a screwdriver and as a cabinet drill. I
don't think it was ever designed for the bull-work you have in mind.
In that case, a plumber friend of mine swears by the Milwaukee. All his
guys use them. They throw some serious self-feed bits in those.
I just don't get 'the feel' off Makita. I'm horribly biased, my shop is
almost excluvely red with a hint of green, some grey and a little black
with fluorescent green buttons. A few blue pieces too. NO yellow. There
may be a yellow belt sander in my future, because I am getting sick and
tired of replacing motor bearings in both the 4x24 and 3x21 PC's
I have a Makita disc sander and a couple of laminate trimmers. No
complaints.
What the hell, buy the Milwaukee....USA made.

0?0

Rob

Get the hole hawg Milwaukee1676-6 - You will never have to buy another
angle drill - ever. (Unless it get stolen).

All others pale in comparison.

Dave



"Nigel Burnett" wrote in message
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I've just stripped the gears in my close-quarter 379-1 Milwaukee drill
again so it's time for something a little
heavier. Primary use is drilling 5/8" up to 1" holes through studs and
joists for house wiring. The idea of 4 1/2"
capacity for the odd drain or whatever is nice. These are my possibilities
so far. Prices are close enough not to care.

http://www.makita.com/Tools_Item_View.asp?id=325

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/weba...entProd=281143

thanks
Nigel

HoleHAWG is pretty good, but Milwaukee is NOT going to get any
right angle drill business from me, after the gears on my 379-1
stripped out three times, the last time NOT covered under warranty.

Local Milwaukwee repair place said that they see TONS of those drills
coming in with stripped gears.

Get a Bosch

John

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:54:12 -0500, Nigel Burnett
wrote:

I've just stripped the gears in my close-quarter 379-1 Milwaukee drill again so it's time for something a little
heavier. Primary use is drilling 5/8" up to 1" holes through studs and joists for house wiring. The idea of 4 1/2"
capacity for the odd drain or whatever is nice. These are my possibilities so far. Prices are close enough not to care.

http://www.makita.com/Tools_Item_View.asp?id=325

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/weba...entProd=281143

thanks
Nigel

"Robatoy" writes:

There
may be a yellow belt sander in my future, because I am getting sick and
tired of replacing motor bearings in both the 4x24 and 3x21 PC's

Those PC units are toys.

Must have burned up and rebuilt under warranty the 4x24 at least 6 times
before PC refused to rebuild again.

The only belt sander designed to survive is the PC50* unit which uses a
chain drive.

Don't be shocked at the price, but it is worth it.

It will be the last one you ever buy, but you won't find it at Home Depot.

HTH

Lew

"Robatoy" writes:

There
may be a yellow belt sander in my future, because I am getting sick and
tired of replacing motor bearings in both the 4x24 and 3x21 PC's

Those PC units are toys.

Must have burned up and rebuilt under warranty the 4x24 at least 6 times
before PC refused to rebuild again.

The only belt sander designed to survive is the PC50* unit which uses a
chain drive.

Don't be shocked at the price, but it is worth it.

It will be the last one you ever buy, but you won't find it at Home Depot.

HTH

Lew

Milwaukee hole hawg.
http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/weba...CategoryId=362

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"Nigel Burnett" wrote in message
news
I've just stripped the gears in my close-quarter 379-1 Milwaukee
drill again so it's time for something a little
heavier. Primary use is drilling 5/8" up to 1" holes through
studs and joists for house wiring. The idea of 4 1/2"
capacity for the odd drain or whatever is nice. These are my
possibilities so far. Prices are close enough not to care.

http://www.makita.com/Tools_Item_View.asp?id=325

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/weba...entProd=281143

thanks
Nigel

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:54:12 -0500, Nigel Burnett
wrote:

I've just stripped the gears in my close-quarter 379-1 Milwaukee drill again so it's time for something a little
heavier. Primary use is drilling 5/8" up to 1" holes through studs and joists for house wiring. The idea of 4 1/2"
capacity for the odd drain or whatever is nice. These are my possibilities so far. Prices are close enough not to care.

http://www.makita.com/Tools_Item_View.asp?id=325

http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/weba...entProd=281143

thanks
Nigel



try this:
http://www.milwaukeeconnect.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=27&catalogId=40027&langId=-1&productId=284307&mainHeader=Tools&categoryId=189 333&mainCategoryId=362&parentProd=281142

In article . net,
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:

There
may be a yellow belt sander in my future, because I am getting sick and
tired of replacing motor bearings in both the 4x24 and 3x21 PC's

Those PC units are toys.

They pretty much suck canal water.

I had a 4x24 Milwaukee that worked okay for a long time till it got
dropped for the last time and the case blew apart. The brushes were
running on shaft, the gears were round...but it paid for itself umpteen
times over. So I went to a PC...BOO hiss.

Thanks for thr tip on the PC50, I will look into it.

0¿0

Rob

In article ,
Robatoy wrote:

In article . net,
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:


Thanks for thr tip on the PC50, I will look into it.

Found it!

http://www.porter-cable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=2787

What a machine! It looks like a design collaberation between PC and
Lionel trains..*G* It truly has this 'locomotive' look to it. It will
look nice sitting next to my 9118 and 100H once I collect those.

500 smackeroonies....OUCH...ouch OUCH. Not this year.

"Robatoy" writes:

What a machine! It looks like a design collaberation between PC and
Lionel trains..

I refer to mine as the Choo-Choo.

500 smackeroonies....OUCH...ouch OUCH. Not this year.

If It will make you feel any better, I had to buy two (2)of them in order to
keep one (1).

The person that stole it probably hocked it for $10 worth of crack.

Lew

I picked up my hole hawg used at a garge sale 15 years ago. We still
use it every day. I do like the smaller head of the DeWalt right
angle, and the Super Hole Awg looks similiar, but seems to weigh a lot
more.

All of these drills are two-handed propositions; some have a clutch in
low gear if the bit binds. I bought the Hole Hawg for a good price and
condition at a pawn shop. I am very careful when drilling where a bind
is likely. Either unit will make all the holes that you will need.

Now that I see the original post, the two models which you are
comparing are the medium-duty units, quite serviceable, but not in the
Hole Hawg category.
Since most of your current work is with auger bits rather than
self-feeding, get the Hole Hawg for its compact size. Many electricians
and plumbers use the Milwaukee HH.

In article ,
John wrote:

HoleHAWG is pretty good, but Milwaukee is NOT going to get any
right angle drill business from me, after the gears on my 379-1
stripped out three times, the last time NOT covered under warranty.

Local Milwaukwee repair place said that they see TONS of those drills
coming in with stripped gears.

The 379 does what it was designed for rather well.
That was not to run selffeed bits.*S*
It's a lightweight tool. I buy the 1/2" versions because that one gives
me lower RPM.. nice for driving screws in narrow cabinets, etc.
Now when I see one of my helpers even LOOK at that 379......[snip]

It's tempting to reach for that tool and stick in a hole saw or a spade
bit for that 'quick dishwasher hook-up'.

Now I just grab a Magnum Holeshooter. If the bit grabs on that one, it
is *I* who will be spinning around.

On 27 Jan 2005 20:42:32 -0800, the inscrutable "IBM5081"
spake:

Now that I see the original post, the two models which you are
comparing are the medium-duty units, quite serviceable, but not in the
Hole Hawg category.
Since most of your current work is with auger bits rather than
self-feeding, get the Hole Hawg for its compact size. Many electricians
and plumbers use the Milwaukee HH.

Um, auger bits -are- self-feeding.


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On 27 Jan 2005 20:42:32 -0800, "IBM5081" wrote:

Now that I see the original post, the two models which you are
comparing are the medium-duty units, quite serviceable, but not in the
Hole Hawg category.
Since most of your current work is with auger bits rather than
self-feeding, get the Hole Hawg for its compact size. Many electricians
and plumbers use the Milwaukee HH.

The Bosch that someone suggested seems at bit of a light-weight:
http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tool...11&I=54992&T=1

I really can't justify the Milwuakee HH's price for the small amount of work that I do.
It's USD100 more than the 3107-6. I use decent spade bits rather than augers, btw.

When the 379's gears first went, I was told that I shouldn't have been using it as a screw-driver
(100s of 3" #8 coated) so I've only used it to drill holes (95% 5/8") since. It's rated as 1/2"
capacity in steel - but nothing online or in the manual about wood. It seems reasonable to
expect the capacity to be larger in wood. The manual also tells you how to drive screws,
thus belieing the original repair rep (not a Milwaukke repair centre anymore). Looks like Mil.
underengineered?

Can't imagine finding a HH at a garage sale though.

So does anyone have an opinion of the Mil 3107-6? I haven't seen any comments on it.

ciao
N.

On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:11:54 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On 27 Jan 2005 20:42:32 -0800, the inscrutable "IBM5081"
spake:

Now that I see the original post, the two models which you are
comparing are the medium-duty units, quite serviceable, but not in the
Hole Hawg category.
Since most of your current work is with auger bits rather than
self-feeding, get the Hole Hawg for its compact size. Many electricians
and plumbers use the Milwaukee HH.

Um, auger bits -are- self-feeding.

Very true. However a self-feeding bit and an auger bit are not the
same thing. The auger has flutes to carry away the chips while the
self-feeding bits use only chip lifters in the same plane as the
perimeter teeth that do the actual hole cutting.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:04:07 -0600, the inscrutable Thomas Kendrick
spake:

Very true. However a self-feeding bit and an auger bit are not the
same thing. The auger has flutes to carry away the chips while the
self-feeding bits use only chip lifters in the same plane as the
perimeter teeth that do the actual hole cutting.

I'm from Missouri (for this subject). Show me. Got JPGs?


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Here are the self feeding bits. As you can see, they are not augers.
http://www.allprotools.com/store/page140.html
The Google search argument is "self feeding bit"
Usually come in sizes up to 4-5/8" as I recall.

Here are augers. The Google is "auger bit".
http://www.mytoolstore.com/milwauke/accaugr.html
Both types of bits have a screw point to pull the cutters through the
material. Screw points for self feeding bits are replaceable. Those
for augers are not.

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:48:03 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:04:07 -0600, the inscrutable Thomas Kendrick
spake:

Very true. However a self-feeding bit and an auger bit are not the
same thing. The auger has flutes to carry away the chips while the
self-feeding bits use only chip lifters in the same plane as the
perimeter teeth that do the actual hole cutting.

I'm from Missouri (for this subject). Show me. Got JPGs?


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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 23:43:04 -0600, the inscrutable Thomas Kendrick
spake:

Here are the self feeding bits. As you can see, they are not augers.
http://www.allprotools.com/store/page140.html
The Google search argument is "self feeding bit"
Usually come in sizes up to 4-5/8" as I recall.

VERY cool. I'd never seen self-feeding forstners before.
Both those bits and extensions are reasonably priced, too.
I feel a "need" coming on.


Here are augers. The Google is "auger bit".
http://www.mytoolstore.com/milwauke/accaugr.html
Both types of bits have a screw point to pull the cutters through the
material. Screw points for self feeding bits are replaceable. Those
for augers are not.

I really like that idea. Several of the used augur bits I picked
up from Ebay sellers had stripped feed screws. Idiots and their
files, I swear...


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