Lot's of books to choose from! I've listed some I found from Amazon
below. I want one that covers mixing finishes like wax topcoats on
Danish oil, or shellac as a top coat, etc. I also want a chart (that
I've seen somewhere but don't recall) that compares various finishes
in terms of durability, repairability, water resistence, shine, etc. I
don't care about spraying techniques, I'm only doing hand
finishing....

BTW, I'd welcome a recommendation from Jeff Jewitt, a sometimes
contributor to this group and the author of many of the books listed
below. Jeff, are you out there reading this?

Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Great Wood Finishes: A Step-by-Step Guide to Consistent and Beautiful
Results by Jeff Jewitt

Hand-Applied Finishes by Jeff Jewitt

Finishes and Finishing Techniques: Professional Secrets for Simple and
Beautiful Finishes in Fine Woodworking by Tauton Press

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

More Finishes and Finishing Techniques: The Best of Fine Woodworking
by Fine Woodworking

The New Wood Finishing Book by Michael Dresdner

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, Never Enough Money wrote:

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

^__ my vote

I read one of the Jewitt books (GWF) at the same time I
first read the Flexner. I found the Flexner to be better. Jewitt
does have a lot of info regarding UK enviro/safety regs, so it might be a
good choice for UK readers.

Here's a sideways generalization for you: I just read the Taunton
sharpening book by Lie-Nielsen. If I didn't already own Lee's sharpening
book, I'd consider buying about the L-N book. So, with a sample size of 1,
I find the Taunton books to be well-done.

--
"Keep your ass behind you"

The best book is the one you can find at the library. You'll
likely find one on your list at the library.

Thunder

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Lot's of books to choose from! I've listed some I found from Amazon
below. I want one that covers mixing finishes like wax topcoats on
Danish oil, or shellac as a top coat, etc. I also want a chart (that
I've seen somewhere but don't recall) that compares various finishes
in terms of durability, repairability, water resistence, shine, etc. I
don't care about spraying techniques, I'm only doing hand
finishing....

BTW, I'd welcome a recommendation from Jeff Jewitt, a sometimes
contributor to this group and the author of many of the books listed
below. Jeff, are you out there reading this?

Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Great Wood Finishes: A Step-by-Step Guide to Consistent and Beautiful
Results by Jeff Jewitt

Hand-Applied Finishes by Jeff Jewitt

Finishes and Finishing Techniques: Professional Secrets for Simple and
Beautiful Finishes in Fine Woodworking by Tauton Press

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

More Finishes and Finishing Techniques: The Best of Fine Woodworking
by Fine Woodworking

The New Wood Finishing Book by Michael Dresdner

"Rolling Thunder" wrote in message
...
The best book is the one you can find at the library. You'll
likely find one on your list at the library.


Why?

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:51:37 -0500, Australopithecus scobis
calmly ranted:

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, Never Enough Money wrote:

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

^__ my vote

I read one of the Jewitt books (GWF) at the same time I
first read the Flexner. I found the Flexner to be better. Jewitt
does have a lot of info regarding UK enviro/safety regs, so it might be a
good choice for UK readers.

Here's a sideways generalization for you: I just read the Taunton
sharpening book by Lie-Nielsen. If I didn't already own Lee's sharpening
book, I'd consider buying about the L-N book. So, with a sample size of 1,
I find the Taunton books to be well-done.

I own a dozen Taunton books and have read a dozen more. I found
that nearly all of them, despite the topic or subject, are very
well done. (But I still call 'em the Taunt Me Press)

I found Flexner's book to be dry, limp, & lifeless (like my hair)
but good in content. I wasn't dippy about the photography.

My favorite wood discoloration book is Jewitt's "Hand Applied
Finishes", followed by the Flexner and Dresdner books, in
that order.

I read Flexner's "Understanding Wood Finishing", Jewitt's "Hand
Applied Finishes", and Dresdner's "The Woodfinishing Book" in that
order in a period of a couple months a few years ago.

Flexner concerned himself more with theory and science, Jewitt
with hands-on work/appraisals/experience, and Dresdner with
his experiences (with which I often found myself disagreeing.)

I'd recommend the first two for inclusion in any WW's library.


-
Yea, though I walk through the valley of Minwax, I shall stain no Cherry.
http://diversify.com

"Australopithecus scobis" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, Never Enough Money wrote:

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

^__ my vote

I whole heartedly agree. This book's title describes its mission perfectly.
It gives you an education about what's available, strengths and weaknesses,
compabilities, and application. It spends a lot of effort devoted to
debunking so-called myths of wood finishing and gives some insight into what
commercial finishes actually contain. I think its really increased my
awareness of paying attention to how a finish will hold up.

Bob

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Lot's of books to choose from!

It's not a good generalist book, but one of the most detailed on
classic French polishing is George Frank's "Classic Wood Finishing"
--
Smert' spamionam

The library is not a good option if you want the book on your
nightstand to peruse at any time for the next, say, 10 years.


Rolling Thunder wrote in message . ..
The best book is the one you can find at the library. You'll
likely find one on your list at the library.

Thunder

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Lot's of books to choose from! I've listed some I found from Amazon
below. I want one that covers mixing finishes like wax topcoats on
Danish oil, or shellac as a top coat, etc. I also want a chart (that
I've seen somewhere but don't recall) that compares various finishes
in terms of durability, repairability, water resistence, shine, etc. I
don't care about spraying techniques, I'm only doing hand
finishing....

BTW, I'd welcome a recommendation from Jeff Jewitt, a sometimes
contributor to this group and the author of many of the books listed
below. Jeff, are you out there reading this?

Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Great Wood Finishes: A Step-by-Step Guide to Consistent and Beautiful
Results by Jeff Jewitt

Hand-Applied Finishes by Jeff Jewitt

Finishes and Finishing Techniques: Professional Secrets for Simple and
Beautiful Finishes in Fine Woodworking by Tauton Press

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

More Finishes and Finishing Techniques: The Best of Fine Woodworking
by Fine Woodworking

The New Wood Finishing Book by Michael Dresdner

Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 12:13pm (EDT-3)
(Never=A0Enough=A0Money) says:
The library is not a good option if you want the book on your nightstand
to peruse at any time for the next, say, 10 years.

For someone who posts as Never Enough Money, you sure aren't
thinking. The library is an EXCELLENT option.

It's one Hell of a lot cheaper to go to the library, read the books
there, then decide which one(s) you want to purchase. There's a good
chance the libray has the ones on your list. And, if they don't, they
can borrow them.

Or, you can just go ahead and buy the books first, and maybe wind up
unhappy with your choice. Up to you.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

Good point, maybe....

The book was $11 plus shipping. The tools I lust for are much more.
E.g. I still need a bandsaw -- 1.5 HP Delta plus a good fence will
clock in around $1100. That's the sort of thing I never have enough
money for. I've been hoping to find a used one -- it's been two months
now.

Anyway, my logic is that $15 for a book will save numerous trips to
the library since I will consult the book any times over the next
umpteen years. At 32 cents per miile (including wear and tear) a trip
to the library would cost me approximately $1.60. So I'd break even
after ten saved trips. In this case (a reference book), buying could
easily be cheaper than the library...
I do about two finishing jobs a year so I might consult the book twice
ayear. So we're talking five years. Although there maybe other
reasons to go to the library and it'd be unfair to book those trips at
$1.60. Ah heck, having the book is just so much more convenient. Plus,
I'm a book junkie as much as I am a tool junkie. Perhaps that's why I
never have enough money!

So far my buddies on rec.woodowrking have steered me right on both
tools and books and finishes. The only thing rec.woodworking does
poorly at is steering one's politics. However, I see you and I might
admire the same bumper stickers....


(J T) wrote in message ...
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 12:13pm (EDT-3)
(Never Enough Money) says:
The library is not a good option if you want the book on your nightstand
to peruse at any time for the next, say, 10 years.

For someone who posts as Never Enough Money, you sure aren't
thinking. The library is an EXCELLENT option.

It's one Hell of a lot cheaper to go to the library, read the books
there, then decide which one(s) you want to purchase. There's a good
chance the libray has the ones on your list. And, if they don't, they
can borrow them.

Or, you can just go ahead and buy the books first, and maybe wind up
unhappy with your choice. Up to you.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:


Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner


Get these two, you won't be sorry.

Also, never count out your local library for test driving books. G

Barry

Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 9:07pm (EDT-3)
(Never=A0Enough=A0Money) says:
snip Anyway, my logic is that $15 for a book will save numerous trips
to the library since I will consult the book any times over the next
umpteen years. At 32 cents per miile (including wear and tear) a trip to
the library would cost me approximately $1.60. So I'd break even after
ten saved trips. In this case (a reference book), buying could easily be
cheaper than the library... snip

My logic is, buy the book, you don't like it, you're stuck. Yeah,
I know, you can usually return a book, and get a refund, but that's
always a hassle, and you always wind up being a few $ in the hole
anyway. You go to the library, look at the book, thumb thru it, maybe
borrow it, then make up your mind if you want to pop for it or not. So
you pay a bit extra if you like the book - run some errands on the same
trip, you areen't even out the extra. But, if you don't want it, you're
only out the $1.60, at the most, anot not stuck with a book you don't
want.

I very, very, seldom buy a book without being able to thumb thru it
first. There are exceptions, but few, and far between, and never, ever,
of a book recommended to me by someone else - they don't have my tastes.
I don't think I've every kept any book given to me either. Most of my
home library was bought in used bookstores - usually from around $3-$5
each, as high as about $9 each, as low as $1 each (US dollars). I've
gotten a LOT of books that way, actually have more woodworking books
than my local, or county, librarys, better variety too. Heh heh.

I'm not overly thrilled with the thought of putting Bush back in
office. But, I'm a whole lot less thrilled with the thought of putting
Kerry in.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

Adding to books are on-line forums on finishing. First one I go to
daily is www.homesteadfinishing.com

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Lot's of books to choose from! I've listed some I found from Amazon
below. I want one that covers mixing finishes like wax topcoats on
Danish oil, or shellac as a top coat, etc. I also want a chart (that
I've seen somewhere but don't recall) that compares various finishes
in terms of durability, repairability, water resistence, shine, etc. I
don't care about spraying techniques, I'm only doing hand
finishing....

BTW, I'd welcome a recommendation from Jeff Jewitt, a sometimes
contributor to this group and the author of many of the books listed
below. Jeff, are you out there reading this?

Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Great Wood Finishes: A Step-by-Step Guide to Consistent and Beautiful
Results by Jeff Jewitt

Hand-Applied Finishes by Jeff Jewitt

Finishes and Finishing Techniques: Professional Secrets for Simple and
Beautiful Finishes in Fine Woodworking by Tauton Press

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

More Finishes and Finishing Techniques: The Best of Fine Woodworking
by Fine Woodworking

The New Wood Finishing Book by Michael Dresdner

Because it is free. Especially important for those who are on fixed
income.



On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:14:06 GMT, "Bob"
wrote:


"Rolling Thunder" wrote in message
.. .
The best book is the one you can find at the library. You'll
likely find one on your list at the library.


Why?

On 14 Oct 2004 12:13:04 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

The library is not a good option if you want the book on your
nightstand to peruse at any time for the next, say, 10 years.

Odds are after 10 years the termites have gotten it or there is
something better to read.

Thunder

I found this one at the library and I agree with Bob. It is one of
the top finishing books.

Thunder

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:34:55 GMT, "Bob"
wrote:


"Australopithecus scobis" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, Never Enough Money wrote:

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

^__ my vote

I whole heartedly agree. This book's title describes its mission perfectly.
It gives you an education about what's available, strengths and weaknesses,
compabilities, and application. It spends a lot of effort devoted to
debunking so-called myths of wood finishing and gives some insight into what
commercial finishes actually contain. I think its really increased my
awareness of paying attention to how a finish will hold up.

Bob

If you live close to a Barnes & Nobles or any good franchise bookstore
just do what I did, I gathered an arm load of books and proceeded to the
nearest sofa chair and read through each until I setteled on the book or
books that included the knowledge base I was requiring then bought them. By
the way our local B&N has all the books that other responders have
identified as good sources.

Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 7:59am (EDT-1) (Seeker) says:
If you live close to a Barnes & Nobles or any good franchise bookstore
just do what I did, I gathered an arm load of books and proceeded to the
nearest sofa chair and read through each until I setteled on the book or
books that included the knowledge base I was requiring then bought them.
By the way our local B&N has all the books that other responders have
identified as good sources.

Not a bad idea. However. Once you've found the one(s) you like,
if you look around a bit on the web, you can probably get them cheaper
then B&N - even including postage. Recenty got a book listed at $25,
plus postage, for less than $20, including postage. New. Another going
for $35 new, plus postage, got for around $25, new, including postage.
It's not hard, just takes about 10 minutes to check prices. IF you
look.

I still prefer used bookstores. I find the newer woodworking books
have only one or two projects that interest me, and I'm not about to pay
$30 for a book like that. I've gone to B&N and found books like that, I
wouldn't mind having, but wasn't about to part with that much, for so
little. Then stopped at the used bookstore, and more than once found
the same book, for $5-$7, in as-new condition.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Lot's of books to choose from! I've listed some I found from Amazon
below. I want one that covers mixing finishes like wax topcoats on
Danish oil, or shellac as a top coat, etc. I also want a chart (that
I've seen somewhere but don't recall) that compares various finishes
in terms of durability, repairability, water resistence, shine, etc. I
don't care about spraying techniques, I'm only doing hand
finishing....

BTW, I'd welcome a recommendation from Jeff Jewitt, a sometimes
contributor to this group and the author of many of the books listed
below. Jeff, are you out there reading this?

Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Great Wood Finishes: A Step-by-Step Guide to Consistent and Beautiful
Results by Jeff Jewitt

Hand-Applied Finishes by Jeff Jewitt

Finishes and Finishing Techniques: Professional Secrets for Simple and
Beautiful Finishes in Fine Woodworking by Tauton Press

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

I picked this one up tonight, and I'm pretty happy with it- assuming
that the advice he gives is sound. Lots of information regarding the
actual properties and interactions of various finishes that seems to
be based on some solid facts, and not just a how-to book. I spent
about an hour picking through finishing books at Borders, and this one
seemed to have the most information- though I did not give them the
kind of going over you can get by reading them fully and trying the
advice out!

More Finishes and Finishing Techniques: The Best of Fine Woodworking
by Fine Woodworking

The New Wood Finishing Book by Michael Dresdner

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:01:19 GMT, Rolling Thunder
wrote:

The best book is the one you can find at the library. You'll
likely find one on your list at the library.

I agree it's a good idea to support your local library, but this is
one of those things that it's nice to have down in your shop whenever
you need it.

Thunder

On 14 Oct 2004 06:31:55 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Lot's of books to choose from! I've listed some I found from Amazon
below. I want one that covers mixing finishes like wax topcoats on
Danish oil, or shellac as a top coat, etc. I also want a chart (that
I've seen somewhere but don't recall) that compares various finishes
in terms of durability, repairability, water resistence, shine, etc. I
don't care about spraying techniques, I'm only doing hand
finishing....

BTW, I'd welcome a recommendation from Jeff Jewitt, a sometimes
contributor to this group and the author of many of the books listed
below. Jeff, are you out there reading this?

Here's the list I found:
Tauton's Complete Illustrated Guide to Finishing by Jeff and Susan
Jewitt

Great Wood Finishes: A Step-by-Step Guide to Consistent and Beautiful
Results by Jeff Jewitt

Hand-Applied Finishes by Jeff Jewitt

Finishes and Finishing Techniques: Professional Secrets for Simple and
Beautiful Finishes in Fine Woodworking by Tauton Press

Understanding Wood Finishing: How to Select and Apply the Right Finish
by Bob Flexner

More Finishes and Finishing Techniques: The Best of Fine Woodworking
by Fine Woodworking

The New Wood Finishing Book by Michael Dresdner

On 14 Oct 2004 21:07:23 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

Good point, maybe....

The book was $11 plus shipping. The tools I lust for are much more.
E.g. I still need a bandsaw -- 1.5 HP Delta plus a good fence will
clock in around $1100. That's the sort of thing I never have enough
money for. I've been hoping to find a used one -- it's been two months
now.

I'm sure it's a beauty of a saw, but those grizzlys are awful nice,
too. For a third of the price you could get a 13" and put a riser
block in it- my voc. ed. instructor was telling me fine woodworking
(IIRC) just ran an article on that very topic. Then you'd have enough
for a jointer or something besides!

Anyway, my logic is that $15 for a book will save numerous trips to
the library since I will consult the book any times over the next
umpteen years. At 32 cents per miile (including wear and tear) a trip
to the library would cost me approximately $1.60. So I'd break even
after ten saved trips. In this case (a reference book), buying could
easily be cheaper than the library...
I do about two finishing jobs a year so I might consult the book twice
ayear. So we're talking five years. Although there maybe other
reasons to go to the library and it'd be unfair to book those trips at
$1.60. Ah heck, having the book is just so much more convenient. Plus,
I'm a book junkie as much as I am a tool junkie. Perhaps that's why I
never have enough money!

I wonder how many folks get into woodworking as a result of book
addiction? I could easily post under the handle (never enough
bookshelves) myself.

So far my buddies on rec.woodowrking have steered me right on both
tools and books and finishes. The only thing rec.woodworking does
poorly at is steering one's politics. However, I see you and I might
admire the same bumper stickers....


(J T) wrote in message ...
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 12:13pm (EDT-3)
(Never Enough Money) says:
The library is not a good option if you want the book on your nightstand
to peruse at any time for the next, say, 10 years.

For someone who posts as Never Enough Money, you sure aren't
thinking. The library is an EXCELLENT option.

It's one Hell of a lot cheaper to go to the library, read the books
there, then decide which one(s) you want to purchase. There's a good
chance the libray has the ones on your list. And, if they don't, they
can borrow them.

Or, you can just go ahead and buy the books first, and maybe wind up
unhappy with your choice. Up to you.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:47:21 GMT, Rolling Thunder
wrote:

Because it is free. Especially important for those who are on fixed
income.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:14:06 GMT, "Bob"
wrote:


"Rolling Thunder" wrote in message
. ..
The best book is the one you can find at the library. You'll
likely find one on your list at the library.


Why?

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:49:44 GMT, Rolling Thunder
wrote:

On 14 Oct 2004 12:13:04 -0700, (Never Enough
Money) wrote:

The library is not a good option if you want the book on your
nightstand to peruse at any time for the next, say, 10 years.

Odds are after 10 years the termites have gotten it or there is
something better to read.

*Shudder*
So that's why my local library no longer carries Euclid's Elements...
Guess "Geometry for Dummies" is better to read. Yuck.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 09:27:21 -0400, (J T)
wrote:

Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 7:59am (EDT-1) (Seeker) says:
If you live close to a Barnes & Nobles or any good franchise bookstore
just do what I did, I gathered an arm load of books and proceeded to the
nearest sofa chair and read through each until I setteled on the book or
books that included the knowledge base I was requiring then bought them.
By the way our local B&N has all the books that other responders have
identified as good sources.

Not a bad idea. However. Once you've found the one(s) you like,
if you look around a bit on the web, you can probably get them cheaper
then B&N - even including postage. Recenty got a book listed at $25,
plus postage, for less than $20, including postage. New. Another going
for $35 new, plus postage, got for around $25, new, including postage.
It's not hard, just takes about 10 minutes to check prices. IF you
look.

I still prefer used bookstores. I find the newer woodworking books
have only one or two projects that interest me, and I'm not about to pay
$30 for a book like that. I've gone to B&N and found books like that, I
wouldn't mind having, but wasn't about to part with that much, for so
little. Then stopped at the used bookstore, and more than once found
the same book, for $5-$7, in as-new condition.

Borders usually has one or two woodworking books on the discount
shelf, as well. I've gotten a couple marked down from $40+ for $5.99.

JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

"Rolling Thunder" wrote in message
...
Because it is free. Especially important for those who are on fixed
income.

Gotcha. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so challenging.

Bob

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:15:24 -0500, Prometheus
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:47:21 GMT, Rolling Thunder
wrote:

Because it is free. Especially important for those who are on fixed
income.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.


It's as free as anything can get.

Thunder