On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

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On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 22:53:13 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
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Yes. But when the end of the board clears the roller it falls and drags
on
the end of the in feed table.... ESPECIALLY on boards less than 8' long.

Eliminating that friction or drag would be temporary with every board
that
is longer than the in feed table.

Yes, it's temporary. However, when you have 12-16' boards in play the last
thing you need is more friction while you've got all that wood hanging out
there!

I'd think a version of infeed/outfeed tables would work better to keep
the ends supported.

The rollers would be an additional aid, not the only aid. I've found that it
takes a combination of things to safely and effectively work with 12'+
boards on a jointer... long beds, adequate jointer weight (or securing it to
the floor), enough room in the shop, infeed/outfeed stands, adequate down
pressure on the outfeed table, reasonably flat stock to begin with (no
excessive crook, bow, twist, etc.), etc. For my next project with long stock
I've have my stock feeder set up and that will take care of many of the
challenges.

I have no problems with rollers but one, only 8" from the table seems
useless to me. A full roller table, or any sort of infeed table would
be good but as you note, take a lot of space. I'm considering the
Laguna rollers. I'd have bought one if 1) I could see them and 1), if
the price hadn't gone up 33%.

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That
led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That
led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

On 3/24/2021 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That
led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

Have you seen this?

https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-coll...collector-230v




I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:49:33 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/24/2021 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That
led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

Have you seen this?

https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-coll...collector-230v

Oneida has good stuff but there's no free lunch. Volume, pressure
difference, HP, pick two.

These are pretty odd and know nothing about them,
https://www.harveywoodworking.com/collections/gyro-airs


I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:00:19 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:49:33 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/24/2021 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That
led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

Have you seen this?

https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-coll...collector-230v

Oneida has good stuff but there's no free lunch. Volume, pressure
difference, HP, pick two.

I just noticed, it is a 5HP DC. Wiring may be a problem. ;-)

These are pretty odd and know nothing about them,
https://www.harveywoodworking.com/collections/gyro-airs


I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

On 3/24/2021 8:57 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:00:19 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:49:33 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 3/24/2021 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:26:36 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

Back when I had a 6" jointer I was edge jointing some 16' stock (don't
recall if it was 2x6 or 2x8) and had the jointer standing up on end at one
point... the jointer wasn't big and heavy enough to cope with the leverage
the long boards exerted and I didn't have an outfeed stand set up. That
led
me to the DJ-20. That kind of stuff is why I have big stationary tools
now... the smaller stuff was too dangerous for the tasks I asked of them!

For me, it's go big or go home. I'm only going to get one chance to
buy a tool. It has to be what I'll want for the next 20 years (we can
all dream ;-).

When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder. I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

Have you seen this?

https://www.oneida-air.com/dust-coll...collector-230v

Oneida has good stuff but there's no free lunch. Volume, pressure
difference, HP, pick two.

I just noticed, it is a 5HP DC. Wiring may be a problem. ;-)

Yeah, 240 volts. Seems odd that they use 3 small HP motors to develop 5
hp and require 240 volt on top of that.
And I don't quite understand. Many cyclone DC's separate the fine dust
from the larger dust. This does not seem to be the case with this unit.

BTW Woodcraft/Jet is having a 10% sale now and free shipping. March
25-30. Might be a local thing since Woodcraft sent the sale to me via
e-mail.




These are pretty odd and know nothing about them,
https://www.harveywoodworking.com/collections/gyro-airs

This DC has been out for a few years. One of the old timer YouTube'rs
got one and raved about it. But in the last year or two his video's
have shown a lot of dust on the floor. Not sure if he still has it or
just needed the space back. That thing is huge. And 240 volt. Stumpy
Nubbs, another YouTuber that seems to know what he is talking about
praises Harvey products in particular their band saws. But he is
probably on commission too.






I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:


When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder.
I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

I kept an eye out for good deals on stationary tools and when I saw one I
bought it... I always made sure I had cash available to jump on deals at a
moments notice. For example, when Woodworkers Warehouse folded I picked up
a Jet 3 HP cabinet saw with a 50" XActa fence, mobile base and out feed
table for about $950 including tax. That was about half of what they were
going for at the time. I grabbed a bigger dust collector too. My new out
of pocket for that stuff was a few hundred dollars after I sold my Jet
contractors saw and old dust collector. I grabbed a couple sets of cope and
stick, and other shaper cutters for pennies on the dollar also.

I found the 3 HP shaper on Craigslist. A guy bought it to make picture
frames as a compliment to his wife's photography business. There was a whole
bunch of tooling included also. He set it up, played with it a little and
never used it. I had a 1 1/2 HP Jet floor model shaper that I sold for as
much as I paid for the 3 HP shaper. My out of pocket for that was gas and
time. Like with the jointer I found I was trying to work with stock and
cutters that were really too big for the small table on the 1 1/2 HP shaper.
It's a tool that when I need it I need it... I suspect it's something most
guys would ever need.

My shop was all but completely outfitted about 15 years before I retired.
What I saw in my woodworkers club was guys retiring and then trying to build
a shop, buy all the tools, and buy wood. Guess what... it was basically too
late for many of them. They didn't have the discretionary income or the
skills to do much of anything. After seeing that happen numerous times I
decided to just do it!

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 02:00:34 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:28:03 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:


When I bought them, the 6" jointer, contractor's saw, bench top router
table, and lunch box thickness planner seemed like they'd do everything I
needed. The reality is the projects I took on grew in complexity, size and
volume over time. Now it's an 8" jointer, 3 HP cabinet saw, 3 HP shaper,
and floor model planner... Started with an 18" bandsaw and added a 36"...
The only power shop tool I bought in the past decade was a power feeder.
I
don't regret the evolution in my skills, projects or equipment.

Exactly. I've been through lesser tools and have only the one chance
to replace what I don't like and fill in what I don't have. I've been
replacing everything and buying new for a while but stepping up the
game preparing for retirement. A jointer and new DC are the last on
my list, I think. I could be convinced that the DC is good enough but
I'd feel much better about a HEPA DC.

I had a Crapsman RAS that hadn't been used in 20 years (no longer
trusted it), so bought a Unisaur about 10 years ago. I've been very
happy with it. I've only had one bandsaw, an 18" I just bought. I
don't see growing out of that. I also don't see that I need a shaper
but have looked into the idea. Cutters are just too expensive and add
too much to the cost. For a planer I *think* a Dewalt 13" lunchbox
(DC735) and a drum sander will be enough. The CFO will only go so far.

I kept an eye out for good deals on stationary tools and when I saw one I
bought it... I always made sure I had cash available to jump on deals at a
moments notice. For example, when Woodworkers Warehouse folded I picked up
a Jet 3 HP cabinet saw with a 50" XActa fence, mobile base and out feed
table for about $950 including tax. That was about half of what they were
going for at the time. I grabbed a bigger dust collector too. My new out
of pocket for that stuff was a few hundred dollars after I sold my Jet
contractors saw and old dust collector. I grabbed a couple sets of cope and
stick, and other shaper cutters for pennies on the dollar also.

I found the 3 HP shaper on Craigslist. A guy bought it to make picture
frames as a compliment to his wife's photography business. There was a whole
bunch of tooling included also. He set it up, played with it a little and
never used it. I had a 1 1/2 HP Jet floor model shaper that I sold for as
much as I paid for the 3 HP shaper. My out of pocket for that was gas and
time. Like with the jointer I found I was trying to work with stock and
cutters that were really too big for the small table on the 1 1/2 HP shaper.
It's a tool that when I need it I need it... I suspect it's something most
guys would ever need.

My shop was all but completely outfitted about 15 years before I retired.
What I saw in my woodworkers club was guys retiring and then trying to build
a shop, buy all the tools, and buy wood. Guess what... it was basically too
late for many of them. They didn't have the discretionary income or the
skills to do much of anything. After seeing that happen numerous times I
decided to just do it!

Exactly. Right now I have plenty of money and no time. Shortly, I'll
have plenty of time and no money. ;-) The problem is that SWMBO will
have an infinite honeydo list.

I was going to retire a year ago but SWMBO had other ideas. That
timer ran out in October so I can leave at any time. Work is
interesting now so told the boss I'd finish the project I'm working
on. It's easy work. Covid has everyone working from home and he's in
Detroit anyway. We're on a phone call twice a week. I can deal with
such micro-management. ;-)

I think these are the last stationary tools that I'll need. I didn't
think I needed a jointer but looking at the lumber I've seen around, I
think it's going to be a must. The last, and not completely
necessary, stationary tools will be the DC.

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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 02:00:34 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

My shop was all but completely outfitted about 15 years before I retired.
What I saw in my woodworkers club was guys retiring and then trying to
build
a shop, buy all the tools, and buy wood. Guess what... it was basically
too
late for many of them. They didn't have the discretionary income or the
skills to do much of anything. After seeing that happen numerous times I
decided to just do it!

Exactly. Right now I have plenty of money and no time. Shortly, I'll
have plenty of time and no money. ;-) The problem is that SWMBO will
have an infinite honeydo list.

I was going to retire a year ago but SWMBO had other ideas. That
timer ran out in October so I can leave at any time. Work is
interesting now so told the boss I'd finish the project I'm working
on. It's easy work. Covid has everyone working from home and he's in
Detroit anyway. We're on a phone call twice a week. I can deal with
such micro-management. ;-)

I think these are the last stationary tools that I'll need. I didn't
think I needed a jointer but looking at the lumber I've seen around, I
think it's going to be a must. The last, and not completely
necessary, stationary tools will be the DC.

I've used my shop as much for home renovation/improvement projects as I have
for fine woodworking projects. In fact, those home renovation/improvement
projects were often where I discovered I needed bigger and more powerful
tools. The upside of the home renovation/improvement projects make for
better justification for buying tools than do hobby woodworking projects.
;~)

On Monday, March 29, 2021 at 2:23:50 PM UTC-4, John Grossbohlin wrote:
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 02:00:34 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

My shop was all but completely outfitted about 15 years before I retired.
What I saw in my woodworkers club was guys retiring and then trying to
build
a shop, buy all the tools, and buy wood. Guess what... it was basically
too
late for many of them. They didn't have the discretionary income or the
skills to do much of anything. After seeing that happen numerous times I
decided to just do it!

Exactly. Right now I have plenty of money and no time. Shortly, I'll
have plenty of time and no money. ;-) The problem is that SWMBO will
have an infinite honeydo list.

I was going to retire a year ago but SWMBO had other ideas. That
timer ran out in October so I can leave at any time. Work is
interesting now so told the boss I'd finish the project I'm working
on. It's easy work. Covid has everyone working from home and he's in
Detroit anyway. We're on a phone call twice a week. I can deal with
such micro-management. ;-)

I think these are the last stationary tools that I'll need. I didn't
think I needed a jointer but looking at the lumber I've seen around, I
think it's going to be a must. The last, and not completely
necessary, stationary tools will be the DC.
I've used my shop as much for home renovation/improvement projects as I have
for fine woodworking projects. In fact, those home renovation/improvement
projects were often where I discovered I needed bigger and more powerful
tools. The upside of the home renovation/improvement projects make for
better justification for buying tools than do hobby woodworking projects.
;~)

So true!

Building things for the kids is also good justification. I started with beds when
they were young and I had very few tools.

Now that they've moved out, I've built benches for their dining room, kitchen
islands & drawers, and yes, still, more beds.

It's hard for SWMBO to argue the need for new tools when it's often her that
suggest that I build something for the kids.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 14:23:34 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Thu, 25 Mar 2021 02:00:34 -0400, "John Grossbohlin"
wrote:

My shop was all but completely outfitted about 15 years before I retired.
What I saw in my woodworkers club was guys retiring and then trying to
build
a shop, buy all the tools, and buy wood. Guess what... it was basically
too
late for many of them. They didn't have the discretionary income or the
skills to do much of anything. After seeing that happen numerous times I
decided to just do it!

Exactly. Right now I have plenty of money and no time. Shortly, I'll
have plenty of time and no money. ;-) The problem is that SWMBO will
have an infinite honeydo list.

I was going to retire a year ago but SWMBO had other ideas. That
timer ran out in October so I can leave at any time. Work is
interesting now so told the boss I'd finish the project I'm working
on. It's easy work. Covid has everyone working from home and he's in
Detroit anyway. We're on a phone call twice a week. I can deal with
such micro-management. ;-)

I think these are the last stationary tools that I'll need. I didn't
think I needed a jointer but looking at the lumber I've seen around, I
think it's going to be a must. The last, and not completely
necessary, stationary tools will be the DC.

I've used my shop as much for home renovation/improvement projects as I have
for fine woodworking projects. In fact, those home renovation/improvement
projects were often where I discovered I needed bigger and more powerful
tools. The upside of the home renovation/improvement projects make for
better justification for buying tools than do hobby woodworking projects.
;~)

Sure but it's hard to "justify" a $2500 tool for a remodel job. It's
easier to call it a hobby where no justification is needed (or
possible). ;-)

That said, my Festool track saw has seen more use as a home
maintenance tool as it has anything else.