So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx

It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?


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On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:07:15 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx

It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Is cordless a better option than corded?

Sonny

On 11/2/16 6:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:07:15 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx

It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Is cordless a better option than corded?

Sonny


Now see, I wasn't even looking at that one.
Here's the correct link.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/561...cular-saw.aspx



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On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:07:11 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx

It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

I think it depends on how big the pieces are. IME, moosing panels
around, alone, on the TS doesn't make for accurate cuts. The track saw
would be better, IMO. For pieces that are easier to handle, I use the
table saw. I cut panels down with the track saw down to an easily
manageable size, then use the table saw to cut smaller pieces.

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On 11/2/16 6:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:07:15 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx

It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Is cordless a better option than corded?

Sonny


Now see, I wasn't even looking at that one.
Here's the correct link.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/561...cular-saw.aspx

Is your table saw big enough to support a sheet of ply? If it's a
little fold-up jobsite saw the track saw might be a better option. If
it's a Unisaw not so much.

And how thick is the ply? 1/4 inch ply is no trouble to handle, 3/4 in
quantity you really want to have a helper. Big benefit of the track
saw, you take the saw to the plywood, not the plywood to the saw.



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On 11/2/2016 6:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx


It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Not necessarily. With the parallel guide system, it's a tossup.

https://goo.gl/photos/4vuAaP3yDkY6emxN7

If I'm in the shop I'll usually rough cut the plywood, out of habit, and
final cut on the table say, but onsite.... nother story.

I did two baths and two kitchens out of town using just the
Festool/parallel guides and didn't miss the table saw as far as accuracy
goes.

Setup is not as quick for each cut, but once that's over, Bob's your uncle.

You will want to do the modification you see here on the two stops for a
bit more stability when using the guides, but that is a no brainer:

https://goo.gl/photos/dDFkFdL85vkMr7Cn9

https://goo.gl/photos/Bg9rsdt4UcDM18py7

Here's what it takes ... made this "kit" for Leon. If he can do it ... LOL

https://goo.gl/photos/mQNXh1KQs7dkTJpU7

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Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?


The track saw is great for cutting up one sheet of plywood. Or maybe two or three. But 54 sheets? You really need a European sliding table saw. Altendorf, Martin, SCMI. If you had the Festool 75 saw, you could maybe stack three of the sheets and cut them at once. So instead of 54 sheets, you would have 18 sheets, sort of. For cutting small pieces, the table saw wins.. Repetitive cuts. In your case maybe the best choice other than the sliding table saw, is to use the track saw to quarter the plywood. Then make the final cuts on the table saw once the plywood is a small easy to handle size. Imagine cutting the plywood into 6" strips four feet long. Easiest might be to cut the plywood in half with the track saw. Then rip the 6" strips on the table saw. A 4'x4' piece can be handled without too much trouble.

On 11/2/2016 6:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx

The one in the link is not the new "carpentry" saw, the new saw attaches
to a short track and is NOT a plunge cut saw like the on in the link.



It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?




If you can handle the goods a TS is better, marginally, but much more
incontinent.

With my Festool TS75 I no longer cut up full 3/4" sheets on the TS, I
use the track saw. BUT for repeated cuts I strongly suggest a parallel
guide, you don't want to have to measure both ends of the track over and
over and over and over. AFWIW the Festool brand parallel guides are not
ideal.

On 11/2/2016 6:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/2/16 6:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:07:15 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx


It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Is cordless a better option than corded?

Sonny


Now see, I wasn't even looking at that one.
Here's the correct link.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/561...cular-saw.aspx




There you go. :~) I would be interested in the quality of cut, the TS
series track saws make Table Saw quality cuts. I think the one pictured
above is more for rough carpentry. I would not buy it until I saw the
quality of cut.

Something else to consider, you will have to buy longer tracks to cut up
sheet goods. I found that to rip a sheet of plywood that it was less
expensive, when I bought, to buy the TS75 which included the more
expensive longer track than the TS55 which included the less expensive
shorter track. You will need the 75 inch and the 55 inch track. Again,
at the time, buying the 75 inch track and the TS55 and included track
was more expensive than buying the TS75 and included track and the 55"
track.
If you are going to rip sheets of plywood you will likely have to buy
the 75" and 55" tracks. Two 55" tracks is not quite long enough to be
able to start the saw on the edge of the plywood and make a through cut.

On 11/3/2016 9:56 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/2/2016 6:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx


The one in the link is not the new "carpentry" saw, the new saw attaches
to a short track and is NOT a plunge cut saw like the on in the link.



It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?




If you can handle the goods a TS is better, marginally, but much more
incontinent.


Did you catch that, incontinent. LOL Farkin spell checker.

Inconvenient.

On 11/2/16 9:54 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 11/2/2016 6:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx



It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Not necessarily. With the parallel guide system, it's a tossup.

https://goo.gl/photos/4vuAaP3yDkY6emxN7

If I'm in the shop I'll usually rough cut the plywood, out of habit, and
final cut on the table say, but onsite.... nother story.

I did two baths and two kitchens out of town using just the
Festool/parallel guides and didn't miss the table saw as far as accuracy
goes.

Setup is not as quick for each cut, but once that's over, Bob's your uncle.

You will want to do the modification you see here on the two stops for a
bit more stability when using the guides, but that is a no brainer:

https://goo.gl/photos/dDFkFdL85vkMr7Cn9

https://goo.gl/photos/Bg9rsdt4UcDM18py7

Here's what it takes ... made this "kit" for Leon. If he can do it ... LOL

https://goo.gl/photos/mQNXh1KQs7dkTJpU7


Good info, thanks.
I did see some other, 3rd party rip guides like this one using Incra
t-track.
goo.gl/Gm2E7n


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On 11/3/16 10:04 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/2/2016 6:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

Now see, I wasn't even looking at that one. Here's the correct
link.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/561...cular-saw.aspx



There you go. :~) I would be interested in the quality of cut, the
TS series track saws make Table Saw quality cuts. I think the one
pictured above is more for rough carpentry. I would not buy it until
I saw the quality of cut.

Something else to consider, you will have to buy longer tracks to cut
up sheet goods. I found that to rip a sheet of plywood that it was
less expensive, when I bought, to buy the TS75 which included the
more expensive longer track than the TS55 which included the less
expensive shorter track. You will need the 75 inch and the 55 inch
track. Again, at the time, buying the 75 inch track and the TS55
and included track was more expensive than buying the TS75 and
included track and the 55" track. If you are going to rip sheets of
plywood you will likely have to buy the 75" and 55" tracks. Two 55"
tracks is not quite long enough to be able to start the saw on the
edge of the plywood and make a through cut.


I'm starting the job as soon as I hit send on this post and I don't
think I have time to buy and learn a new tool. I was thinking this job
might justify the expense, but with the outfeed table on my good quality
TS I think I'm in good shape.

The bins are all 8ft. long so most of my cutting is going to be full
rips. It's only 1/2 pine plywood so maneuvering won't be as difficult
it would be with 3/4" sheet goods.


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Leon wrote:
On 11/3/2016 9:56 AM, Leon wrote:
On 11/2/2016 6:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx


The one in the link is not the new "carpentry" saw, the new saw attaches
to a short track and is NOT a plunge cut saw like the on in the link.



It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?




If you can handle the goods a TS is better, marginally, but much more
incontinent.


Did you catch that, incontinent. LOL Farkin spell checker.

Inconvenient.

Incontinence IS inconvenient.

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On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 10:39:14 AM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
I was thinking this job
might justify the expense, but with the outfeed table on my good quality
TS I think I'm in good shape.

The bins are all 8ft. long so most of my cutting is going to be full
rips. It's only 1/2 pine plywood so maneuvering won't be as difficult
it would be with 3/4" sheet goods.

With 1/2" plywood and full length cuts, it sounds like the tablesaw might be the best way to do this job even if you already owned the track saws and guide rails. Measuring and moving and aligning the tracks for every single cut on every single piece of plywood is not good. Best to set a fence on the tablesaw once and lock it in place and then cut forever.

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:04:25 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

On 11/2/2016 6:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/2/16 6:44 PM, Sonny wrote:
On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 6:07:15 PM UTC-5, -MIKE- wrote:
So Festool came out with their "contractor" track saw.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/574...track-saw.aspx


It works with all their tracks which is very cool.
This saw is priced where I am actually pretty tempted to buy one.
For you Festool track saw guys, let me ask you a question.

Is a table saw better for repetitive cuts? I have to imagine it is.
I'm making 24 cable bins for a pro sound company and I'll be cutting up
54 sheets of plywood at mostly the same dimensions. I'm guessing the
table saw is better suited to this. Am I right?

Is cordless a better option than corded?

Sonny


Now see, I wasn't even looking at that one.
Here's the correct link.
http://www.woodcraft.com/product/561...cular-saw.aspx




There you go. :~) I would be interested in the quality of cut, the TS
series track saws make Table Saw quality cuts. I think the one pictured
above is more for rough carpentry. I would not buy it until I saw the
quality of cut.

Something else to consider, you will have to buy longer tracks to cut up
sheet goods. I found that to rip a sheet of plywood that it was less
expensive, when I bought, to buy the TS75 which included the more
expensive longer track than the TS55 which included the less expensive
shorter track. You will need the 75 inch and the 55 inch track. Again,
at the time, buying the 75 inch track and the TS55 and included track
was more expensive than buying the TS75 and included track and the 55"
track.
If you are going to rip sheets of plywood you will likely have to buy
the 75" and 55" tracks. Two 55" tracks is not quite long enough to be
able to start the saw on the edge of the plywood and make a through cut.

Yes, you were smart. I bought the TS44, which came with a 55" track
and I bought another to cut sheets. I didn't find that very
satisfactory so also bought a 108" track. I now have a 55" that isn't
of much use.