A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!

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On 6/28/2016 8:15 PM, Davoud wrote:
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!



Probably more than just glue, but a Titebond glue should be fine. I
would reinforce with pocket hole screws and or biscuits.

Davoud wrote in :

A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


I'd probably reach for the Titebond II, just regular wood glue. With wood
glue, a good fit and more clamping pressure usually results in a better
joint. Just don't damage the wood by cranking things down too tight.

Puckdropper

On 6/28/16 8:15 PM, Davoud wrote:
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


MDF is sawdust and glue. Don't over-think it.
Use wood glue. If it's exterior, use a waterproof glue.

Don't pay attentions to all the wives' tales about over-pressure and all
that crap.
Just f'n glue it, sand it, paint it, have a beer and enjoy life.


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On 6/28/2016 10:58 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 6/28/16 8:15 PM, Davoud wrote:
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


MDF is sawdust and glue. Don't over-think it.
Use wood glue. If it's exterior, use a waterproof glue.

Don't pay attentions to all the wives' tales about over-pressure and all
that crap.
Just f'n glue it, sand it, paint it, have a beer and enjoy life.


It is surprising what you can glue together. Many years ago my
daughter broke the head board on her antique bed. She called an asked
what to do. I told her to collect all of the pieces and we would see
what could be done.

Like a puzzle I put all of the pieces back together and glued with
common wood glue. (I do not remember if it was titebond or Elmer wood
glue). Today she is sleeping in the bed every night, and it looks like
nothing happened to it.

"-MIKE-" wrote

Don't pay attentions to all the wives' tales about over-pressure and all
that crap.
Just f'n glue it, sand it, paint it, have a beer and enjoy life.


I just can't help myself...

Is it OK if I substitute tequila for the beer? Otherwise, good advice.

I was working on some small wood boxes for the wife last night. I had to
putty in some small holes. I have not bought any wood putty for a long
time. I was reading the instructions to see if things have changed. I
found two big changes in the instructions.

1) No clean up instructions. Apparently you just let the putty harden on
your tools and break it off later with a hammer. I used paint thinner.
That worked OK.

2) You are not supposed to apply the wood putty to your eyes??????
Something I never thought about. But this was more important than clean up
instructions, apparently.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:30:53 PM UTC-4, wrote:
"-MIKE-" wrote

Don't pay attentions to all the wives' tales about over-pressure and all
that crap.
Just f'n glue it, sand it, paint it, have a beer and enjoy life.


I just can't help myself...

Is it OK if I substitute tequila for the beer? Otherwise, good advice.

I was working on some small wood boxes for the wife last night. I had to
putty in some small holes. I have not bought any wood putty for a long
time. I was reading the instructions to see if things have changed. I
found two big changes in the instructions.

1) No clean up instructions. Apparently you just let the putty harden on
your tools and break it off later with a hammer. I used paint thinner.
That worked OK.

2) You are not supposed to apply the wood putty to your eyes??????
Something I never thought about. But this was more important than clean up
instructions, apparently.

You can only fit so many letters on the label. The lawsuit for puttied eyes would cost
them more than the lawsuit for puttied tools.

Lee Michaels wrote:


"-MIKE-" wrote

Don't pay attentions to all the wives' tales about over-pressure and all
that crap.
Just f'n glue it, sand it, paint it, have a beer and enjoy life.


I just can't help myself...

Is it OK if I substitute tequila for the beer? Otherwise, good advice.

I was working on some small wood boxes for the wife last night. I had to
putty in some small holes. I have not bought any wood putty for a long
time. I was reading the instructions to see if things have changed. I
found two big changes in the instructions.

1) No clean up instructions. Apparently you just let the putty harden on
your tools and break it off later with a hammer. I used paint thinner.
That worked OK.

2) You are not supposed to apply the wood putty to your eyes??????
Something I never thought about. But this was more important than clean up
instructions, apparently.


More important: Does it cause cancer in California?

--
GW Ross

Some people act crazy, others aren't
acting.

replying to -MIKE-, Angela wrote:
Perfect advice.


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On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:16:00 PM UTC-7, Davoud wrote:
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate ...
Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!

As others have said, any old white glue. When it's dry, give the surface a pass with
a hot iron (use aluminum foil or teflon sheet to keep paint off the iron). The
glue doesn't make much of a seam bulge, but it goes down quicker with some heat
than with sandpaper.

whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:16:00 PM UTC-7, Davoud wrote:
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate ...
Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!

As others have said, any old white glue. When it's dry, give the surface a pass with
a hot iron (use aluminum foil or teflon sheet to keep paint off the iron). The
glue doesn't make much of a seam bulge, but it goes down quicker with some heat
than with sandpaper.


Have never heard anything about using a hot iron to glue up a piece of
wood. Going to call bull**** on that recommendation.

--
-Mike-

Mike Marlow wrote:
whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:16:00 PM UTC-7, Davoud wrote:
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In
the process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate ...
Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!

As others have said, any old white glue. When it's dry, give the
surface a pass with a hot iron (use aluminum foil or teflon sheet to
keep paint off the iron). The glue doesn't make much of a seam
bulge, but it goes down quicker with some heat than with sandpaper.


Have never heard anything about using a hot iron to glue up a piece of
wood. Going to call bull**** on that recommendation.

White glue is thermoplastic. I often edge band by applying it to an edge,
let it dry then iron on the edge band (hottest setting). Works well;
however, the wood needs to be thin - up to 1/8" or so - for it to get hot
enough.

An alternative way is to apply a heavy coat, let it dry then spritz lightly
it with water (just enough so it turns white again). The water will make
the surface tacky, easier to align banding - which needs to then be
clamped - and less messy, no squeeze out. This is also a way to apply large
sheets of cloth, paper or whatever to a substrate. No clamping is needed
but the thin sheet of whatever needs to be squeeged on well and the dried
glue on the substrate needs to be smooth (I use a surform plane to smooth
it).

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 2:37:37 PM UTC-7, Mike Marlow wrote:
whit3rd wrote:
On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 6:16:00 PM UTC-7, Davoud wrote:

As others have said, any old white glue. When it's dry, give the surface a pass with
a hot iron (use aluminum foil or teflon sheet to keep paint off the iron). The
glue doesn't make much of a seam bulge, but it goes down quicker with some heat
than with sandpaper.

Have never heard anything about using a hot iron to glue up a piece of
wood. Going to call bull**** on that recommendation.

You didn't hear it, you read it in a newsgroup. The water in the glue swells the
fibers near the joint, and the hot iron reflows the glue near the surface so you can
press it flat after it's dry.

Works well on attaching veneers, too (iron-on after letting glue dry on one or both
surfaces). Water-based glue swells the veneer if you apply it wet, and it splits when it
dries.

"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art

Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



Too little information about the damage to make any recommendation
Dowels may not at all be necessary - maybe only only a simple glue joint.



--
-Mike-

Mike Marlow:
Too little information about the damage to make any recommendation
Dowels may not at all be necessary - maybe only only a simple glue joint.

The photograph was inadequate? Never mind. Titebond II did the job.

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you will say in your entire life.

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Davoud wrote:
Mike Marlow:
Too little information about the damage to make any recommendation
Dowels may not at all be necessary - maybe only only a simple glue joint.

The photograph was inadequate? Never mind. Titebond II did the job.


Nope - it was perfectly adequate. Too bad I didn't see the link until
after I posted my reply. Happens some time...

--
-Mike-

On 6/29/2016 5:00 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole
screws. You might give it a try some time, you will probably be surprised.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:22:38 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 6/29/2016 5:00 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole
screws. You might give it a try some time, you will probably be surprised.
When I need to replace broken MDF I find Baltic Birch Plywood works
best.

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:01:24 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:22:38 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

On 6/29/2016 5:00 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole
screws. You might give it a try some time, you will probably be surprised.
When I need to replace broken MDF I find Baltic Birch Plywood works
Darn - I blew it. When I need to REPAIR broken MDF I find Baltic
Birch Plywood works best.

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:01:24 -0400, wrote:

So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole
screws. You might give it a try some time, you will probably be
surprised.
When I need to replace broken MDF I find Baltic Birch Plywood works
Darn - I blew it. When I need to REPAIR broken MDF I find Baltic
Birch Plywood works best.

I tend to replace things like this too... with ply or solid wood as seems
appropriate.

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
news
On 6/29/2016 5:00 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole screws. You might give it a
try some time, you will probably be surprised.

Experience has shown that biscuits in MDF have a tendency to initiate splitting
along the center of the panel. Also screws promote disintegration in
the local area of the panel. Did you not notice the word "optional" used with
the dowel recommendation?
Art

On 6/30/2016 12:21 AM, Artemus wrote:
"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
news
On 6/29/2016 5:00 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole screws. You might give it a
try some time, you will probably be surprised.

Experience has shown that biscuits in MDF have a tendency to initiate splitting
along the center of the panel. Also screws promote disintegration in
the local area of the panel.

I have used pocket hole screws to connect MDF and Domino's to reinforce
MDF unions. It is strong union.



Did you not notice the word "optional" used with
the dowel recommendation?

Yes I saw optional dowels along with Nix My tested suggestion.

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
...
On 6/30/2016 12:21 AM, Artemus wrote:
"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message
news
On 6/29/2016 5:00 PM, Artemus wrote:
"Davoud" wrote in message ...
A neighbor is modifying the transom of a door to fit an opening. In the
process he broke the corner off the MDF bottom plate that the transom
windows rest on. Photograph at
http://primordial-light.com/mdf-transom.html.

Best glue to repair this break?

Many thanks!


Titebond will work fine.
Optional: add dowels for joint strength.
Nix on biscuits or pocket screws as you will likely destroy more of the MDF.
Art



So apparently you have not repaired MDF with biscuits or pocket hole screws. You might give it
a
try some time, you will probably be surprised.

Experience has shown that biscuits in MDF have a tendency to initiate splitting
along the center of the panel. Also screws promote disintegration in
the local area of the panel.

I have used pocket hole screws to connect MDF and Domino's to reinforce MDF unions. It is strong
union.



Did you not notice the word "optional" used with
the dowel recommendation?

Yes I saw optional dowels along with Nix My tested suggestion.


OK, we've had differing experiences.
But this is the internet, is this where we launch ad hominem attacks now? ;~)
Art

"Artemus" wrote in :

Experience has shown that biscuits in MDF have a tendency to initiate
splitting along the center of the panel.

That seems reasonable, since biscuits tend to swell from
the moisture in the glue (or any other source of moisture).

John