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The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the
motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. -- GW Ross If you keep an open mind, people will throw a lot of garbage in it. |
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On 2/8/2014 8:44 PM, G. Ross wrote:
The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. You could have put a link belt on just cut the old off, and link it on, then put it around the motor sheave. Link belts while a little noisier are way nicer vibration wise. -- Jeff |
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On 2/8/2014 8:44 PM, G. Ross wrote:
The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. A six point 1 1/8" might work (common), a 1 1/16" is closer but harder to find. A 1" might be worth a try. Some of the impacts run a little large. I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... I've spent a lot of time lately in pawn shops looking through bins of sockets, depressing... Jeff I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. |
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On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. Synchronized obsolescence. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 2/9/2014 10:20 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. I hate Moen, and a few others. Delta seems to be pretty good for parts. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. I had to get parts for my Dad's (now gone) Kohler bathroom faucet. 70 + years old, and they had them... Synchronized obsolescence. Perhaps they don't make them like they used to. Jeff |
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On 2/9/2014 9:36 AM, Jeff Thies wrote:
On 2/9/2014 10:20 AM, Swingman wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. I hate Moen, and a few others. Delta seems to be pretty good for parts. Delta has a few tiers of quality, so you need to be aware of what you're buying, most particularly when purchasing from the Home Depot, Lowes, et al. It it's cheap, you are buying "cheap", not inexpensive. There's a big difference. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. I had to get parts for my Dad's (now gone) Kohler bathroom faucet. 70 + years old, and they had them... One of the good things about using Kohler, as a builder, is that I can leave the documentation with the homeowner in a "House Book", and specifically let them know that Kohler generally keeps parts for years for discontinued fixtures, which they will ship to you free of charge. Kohler customer service is still relatively responsive compared to other. Synchronized obsolescence. Perhaps they don't make them like they used to. Unequivocally they do not, but that does not mean they are worse, just with more features, and thereby more complicated, which indeed causes its own set of problems. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://www.google.com/+eWoodShop https://plus.google.com/+KarlCaillouet/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 2/9/2014 11:35 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 2/9/2014 9:36 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: On 2/9/2014 10:20 AM, Swingman wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. Like trying to buy a replacement mop head a year later. I hate Moen, and a few others. Delta seems to be pretty good for parts. Delta has a few tiers of quality, so you need to be aware of what you're buying, most particularly when purchasing from the Home Depot, Lowes, et al. Didn't know that, but it makes sense. I tend not to trust anything from HD. Unfortunately it is the closest and I can bring stuff home hanging out my car window and not worry... It it's cheap, you are buying "cheap", not inexpensive. There's a big difference. The one I bought for the rental's kitchen came with a lifetime guarantee. I thought, pretty good for $75. Maybe it means less than I thought. I always ask what to stay away from and the sales people always have definite opinions on that! One should never knowingly buy trouble. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. I had to get parts for my Dad's (now gone) Kohler bathroom faucet. 70 + years old, and they had them... One of the good things about using Kohler, as a builder, is that I can leave the documentation with the homeowner in a "House Book", and specifically let them know that Kohler generally keeps parts for years for discontinued fixtures, which they will ship to you free of charge. Nice. Kohler customer service is still relatively responsive compared to other. Synchronized obsolescence. Perhaps they don't make them like they used to. Unequivocally they do not, but that does not mean they are worse, just with more features, and thereby more complicated, which indeed causes its own set of problems. I see that we are in the age of touchless faucets. Last trip out I saw several selling for big markdowns. On the other hand my bathroom faucet, circa 1929, is still going. Nothing complicated in that! And metal outlasts plastic. Jeff |
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"Swingman" wrote in message
Perhaps they don't make them like they used to. Unequivocally they do not, but that does not mean they are worse, just with more features, and thereby more complicated, which indeed causes its own set of problems. Dang, I so miss that hand pump outside the back door -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 2/9/2014 10:20 AM, Swingman wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. Synchronized obsolescence. I'm afraid this goes way back and wasn't invented in Asia. Back in the early Seventies I managed to shear off the threaded portion of a microphone stand (in a particularly foolish way) and decided to see if I could avoid buying a new one. There was a tool & die place just up the block from my parents' house. I showed it to the guy, who - although there'd probably have been no profit in it - said he could rethread it quickly for just a few bucks. I said that would be great. He took out a gauge of some kind and tried to match it up with the mating threads. Nope, too coarse. He grabbed the next one. Nope. Too fine. With a puzzled look he explained that 27 threads per inch was what was needed, apparently unique to the mike stand trade. And still the case, I believe. |
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On 2/9/2014 2:29 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
On 2/9/2014 10:20 AM, Swingman wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. Synchronized obsolescence. I'm afraid this goes way back and wasn't invented in Asia. Back in the early Seventies I managed to shear off the threaded portion of a microphone stand (in a particularly foolish way) and decided to see if I could avoid buying a new one. There was a tool & die place just up the block from my parents' house. I showed it to the guy, who - although there'd probably have been no profit in it - said he could rethread it quickly for just a few bucks. I said that would be great. He took out a gauge of some kind and tried to match it up with the mating threads. Nope, too coarse. He grabbed the next one. Nope. Too fine. With a puzzled look he explained that 27 threads per inch was what was needed, apparently unique to the mike stand trade. And still the case, I believe. And that is where a thread file comes in handy: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ad-repair-file note the 27. Requires patience, and perhaps drinking. Jeff |
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On 2/9/2014 2:40 PM, Jeff Thies wrote:
On 2/9/2014 2:29 PM, Greg Guarino wrote: On 2/9/2014 10:20 AM, Swingman wrote: On 2/9/2014 8:55 AM, Jeff Thies wrote: I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... Damned faucet manufacturers seem to delight in making attachment 'non standard', particularly when dealing with "cartridges" and their replacement installation. I'm still waiting on Kohler to deliver parts for two, 12 year old faucets, on the same vanity, which failed within days of each other. Synchronized obsolescence. I'm afraid this goes way back and wasn't invented in Asia. Back in the early Seventies I managed to shear off the threaded portion of a microphone stand (in a particularly foolish way) and decided to see if I could avoid buying a new one. There was a tool & die place just up the block from my parents' house. I showed it to the guy, who - although there'd probably have been no profit in it - said he could rethread it quickly for just a few bucks. I said that would be great. He took out a gauge of some kind and tried to match it up with the mating threads. Nope, too coarse. He grabbed the next one. Nope. Too fine. With a puzzled look he explained that 27 threads per inch was what was needed, apparently unique to the mike stand trade. And still the case, I believe. And that is where a thread file comes in handy: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ad-repair-file note the 27. Requires patience, and perhaps drinking. Jeff 1. Thanks for the tip. I didn't know such a tool existed. 2. It wouldn't have helped. Although usually behind a keyboard, I was getting a rare turn out front as the lead singer, back when I felt I was qualified. For a dramatic, if cliched, ending, I would jump up in the air (to my full vertical leap of a few inches) and the band would accent the last note when I came down. One night I came down on the cast iron base of the stand while holding the top of the stand in my hand. Luckily is was the stand that broke, rather than my ankle. The threaded bit broke away from the pipe completely. |
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Jeff Thies wrote in :
On 2/8/2014 8:44 PM, G. Ross wrote: The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. A six point 1 1/8" might work (common), Doubtful. 26mm is less than 1 1/32". a 1 1/16" is closer but harder to find. Where are you shopping, that you have trouble finding a 1 1/16" socket? A 1" might be worth a try. Some of the impacts run a little large. More likely to work than 1 1/8"... I needed a 16mm to remove a faucet a day ago. Every metric set I have jumps from 15 to 17... 16mm and 5/8 inch are basically interchangeable. The difference is less than 0.005". I've spent a lot of time lately in pawn shops looking through bins of sockets, depressing... You can buy 16mm sockets at Sears. |
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On 2/8/14 6:44 PM, G. Ross wrote:
The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. I always had good luck finding large sockets at the local auto part chain store (Auto Zone). Prices are tolerable for something you may only use once and it beats waiting for an order to arrive. -BR --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 20:44:29 -0500, G. Ross wrote:
Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. I've run into similar socket problems on power tools and on motorcycles. So far, all of the sizes I've needed (and I'm sure one was a 26mm) I've found at Harbor Freight. Not the highest quality, but these are not tools I'm going to use every day -- Where have all the flowers gone? Pete Seeger 1919-2014 |
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On 2/8/2014 8:44 PM, G. Ross wrote:
The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. Another incident comes to mind. I bought a bike for my daughter a number of years back. The assembly instructions listed the tools that would be needed; including an adjustable wrench. I'm no grease monkey, but I have basic sets of sockets in English and Metric sizes. I figured the "adjustable wrench" recommendation was for those poor benighted souls who keep their entire complement of six tools in a kitchen drawer. A "handy" fellow like me wasn't going to fool around with an adjustable wrench. Turns out the nuts - TWO different sizes - were non-standard. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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Greg Guarino wrote:
I bought a bike for my daughter a number of years back. The assembly instructions listed the tools that would be needed; including an adjustable wrench. I'm no grease monkey, but I have basic sets of sockets in English and Metric sizes. I figured the "adjustable wrench" recommendation was for those poor benighted souls who keep their entire complement of six tools in a kitchen drawer. A "handy" fellow like me wasn't going to fool around with an adjustable wrench. Turns out the nuts - TWO different sizes - were non-standard. Oh yeah - a real handy guy does have a few different sizes of adjustable wrenches around at all time. I've got toos - lots of tools, but I also have and handful of adjustable wrenches. Ya just gotta know when to use 'em and when not... -- -Mike- |
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Mike Marlow wrote:
Greg Guarino wrote: I bought a bike for my daughter a number of years back. The assembly instructions listed the tools that would be needed; including an adjustable wrench. I'm no grease monkey, but I have basic sets of sockets in English and Metric sizes. I figured the "adjustable wrench" recommendation was for those poor benighted souls who keep their entire complement of six tools in a kitchen drawer. A "handy" fellow like me wasn't going to fool around with an adjustable wrench. Turns out the nuts - TWO different sizes - were non-standard. Oh yeah - a real handy guy does have a few different sizes of adjustable wrenches around at all time. I've got toos - lots of tools, but I also have and handful of adjustable wrenches. Ya just gotta know when to use 'em and when not... ....and apparently ya gotta know how to spell - or at least how to proof-read before hitting send... -- -Mike- |
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On 2/10/2014 4:14 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Oh yeah - a real handy guy does have a few different sizes of adjustable wrenches around at all time. I have them. But they're not nearly as convenient as a socket wrench, especially when (as always happens) you don't have enough room to spin the wrench in a circle. You end up getting a quarter of a rotation before you need to reposition the wrench. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:12:48 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Greg Guarino wrote: I bought a bike for my daughter a number of years back. The assembly instructions listed the tools that would be needed; including an adjustable wrench. I'm no grease monkey, but I have basic sets of sockets in English and Metric sizes. I figured the "adjustable wrench" recommendation was for those poor benighted souls who keep their entire complement of six tools in a kitchen drawer. A "handy" fellow like me wasn't going to fool around with an adjustable wrench. Turns out the nuts - TWO different sizes - were non-standard. Oh yeah - a real handy guy does have a few different sizes of adjustable wrenches around at all time. I've got toos - lots of tools, but I also have and handful of adjustable wrenches. Ya just gotta know when to use 'em and when not... Yeah, I have several adjustable wrenches, in both metric and imperial sizes. Some are both metric and imperial size. ;-) |
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:34:49 -0500, Jeff Thies
wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:22 PM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 16:12:48 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: Greg Guarino wrote: snip Yeah, I have several adjustable wrenches, in both metric and imperial sizes. Some are both metric and imperial size. ;-) I know it's a joke, but I have exactly such a beast, with an SAE scale on one side, and a metric on the other. I was referring to the "8in" on one side and "300mm" on the other. ;-) They probably have the scale on them too (pretty useless, so I don't remember). |
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G. Ross wrote:
The belt on my bandsaw is slipping. I have tightened it as far as the motor will move already. I decided to take it and get a new belt. Now the good part. The lower wheel will have to be removed. It is held on the shaft by a 26mm nut. Can't use an adjustable wrench because the wheel protrudes around the nut. Of all the sockets I have accumulated in the past 50 years, there is no 26 mm socket. I either order a socket to fit the nut or cut off the flange that surrounds it. I ordered a socket. It is probably made in Taiwan like the bandsaw. Got to love those far-thinking Chinese. Received the socket today. A very nice looking socket. And it WAS made in Taiwan. -- GW Ross Free advice is worth what you pay for it |
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