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safely cutting flat angles
Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit.
Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary |
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On 9/15/13 11:29 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Google "table saw tenon jig" and you'll see many techniques using an auxiliary fence for the table saw or a jig that rides on the table saw fence. These hold the stock upright, perpendicular to the table, in order to ride through the blade. They are pretty easy to make and will allow you to tilt your blade to 30 degrees, giving you a 60 degree cut. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 9/15/13 11:36 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 9/15/13 11:29 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote: Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Google "table saw tenon jig" and you'll see many techniques using an auxiliary fence for the table saw or a jig that rides on the table saw fence. These hold the stock upright, perpendicular to the table, in order to ride through the blade. They are pretty easy to make and will allow you to tilt your blade to 30 degrees, giving you a 60 degree cut. I think this is the one I patterned mine after... http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/t...wtenonjig.aspx Very simple, sturdy, and stable. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On 9/15/2013 11:29 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Do you have a bandsaw? |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 09:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Ivan Vegvary
wrote: Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Very simple. I had to do the same thing when I built my shed for the rafter ends. Clamp a straight edge 90 deg to the fence of your miter saw and then all you have to do is cut a 30 deg angle. With the 12" length of your stock it's a piece of cake. |
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On 9/15/2013 11:29 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Do you have a miter saw? -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://plus.google.com/114902129577517371552/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 9/15/2013 5:15 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 09:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Ivan Vegvary wrote: Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Very simple. I had to do the same thing when I built my shed for the rafter ends. Clamp a straight edge 90 deg to the fence of your miter saw and then all you have to do is cut a 30 deg angle. With the 12" length of your stock it's a piece of cake. +1 All these angled chair leg top bevels were cut using your method described above ... the OP's cut is indeed a "piece of cake", relatively speaking. https://plus.google.com/photos/11135...67778981859077 -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://plus.google.com/114902129577517371552/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary I have little experience at these sort of things, but I would build a "sled" having a 30-degree "ramp". Then would adjust the blade angle on someones TS until my test-cuts were a "perfect fit" (to the attic). By the way, the rise/run of a 30-degree angle is about .577. The angle corresponding to a rise/run of .5 is about 26.57-degrees. So make the height of the "ramp" half as much as it's width, and you'll be pretty close. You could measure the angle of whatever ramp you build with a protractor, of course. Then make up the difference (to 60) with your table saw. I welcome constructive criticism. Bill |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:15:27 -0500, Gordon Shumway
wrote: On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 09:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Ivan Vegvary wrote: Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Very simple. I had to do the same thing when I built my shed for the rafter ends. Let me rephrase that. I had to do the same thing when I cut the rafter ends for my shed. I would never want to give anyone the impression that I built a shed to house my rafter ends. ;-) |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
On 9/15/2013 11:29 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote: Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. Ivan Vegvary Do you have a bandsaw? Actually, do you have a jigsaw? |
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I don't think either my miter saw or my table saw will cut 3-1/2 inches deep. Therefore a sled or miter gage solution is out.
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On 9/15/13 6:12 PM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
I don't think either my miter saw or my table saw will cut 3-1/2 inches deep. Therefore a sled or miter gage solution is out. Ivan Vegvary Your table saw wouldn't have to cut that deep, if the 2x4 is standing up on edge. The 3-1/2" dimension would be passing through the blade. The blade would be tilted at 30 degrees cutting through the 1-1/2" dimension of the 2x4. Or did I misunderstand the cut you're trying to make. You want to make a bevel cut on the end of a 2x4, not a miter cut, right? -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Thanks. Bevel cut across the flat 3-1/2 inch dimension of the 2x4. I could pass it with the miter gage, and after all the cuts are made,flip everything over for a second pass so I can go full depth. Don't need accuracy. This is for framing only not cabinet work.
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On 9/15/13 6:37 PM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Thanks. Bevel cut across the flat 3-1/2 inch dimension of the 2x4. I could pass it with the miter gage, and after all the cuts are made,flip everything over for a second pass so I can go full depth. Don't need accuracy. This is for framing only not cabinet work. Ivan Vegvary Well crap, you could do that with a circ saw or hand saw on a saw horse. If it's just framing, turn the 2x4 on edge, use a speed square to mark the 60degree cut line and cut with a hand saw... or hold the speed square at 60 as a guide for the circ saw. Go half way on one side and flip to finish the cut. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Thanks. Bevel cut across the flat 3-1/2 inch dimension of the 2x4. I could pass it with the miter gage, and after all the cuts are made,flip everything over for a second pass so I can go full depth. Don't need accuracy. This is for framing only not cabinet work. Ivan Vegvary Before anyone else reaches for his or her calculator, for a 1.5" wide 2x4, the depth of the cut required appears to be 3". Bill |
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Bill wrote:
Ivan Vegvary wrote: Thanks. Bevel cut across the flat 3-1/2 inch dimension of the 2x4. I could pass it with the miter gage, and after all the cuts are made,flip everything over for a second pass so I can go full depth. Don't need accuracy. This is for framing only not cabinet work. Ivan Vegvary Before anyone else reaches for his or her calculator, for a 1.5" wide 2x4, the depth of the cut required appears to be 3". Bill Scratch that. 1.75" from each side makes more sense. |
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On 9/15/2013 6:12 PM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
I don't think either my miter saw or my table saw will cut 3-1/2 inches deep. Therefore a sled or miter gage solution is out. Therefore, hire someone. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net https://plus.google.com/114902129577517371552/posts http://www.custommade.com/by/ewoodshop/ KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:36:32 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 9/15/13 11:29 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote: Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. Portable saw only goes to 45 deg. Same with table saw. I could stand pieces on end and slide them along the fence. Sounds dangerous. Need to do about 60 cuts. Advice appreciated. I not sure exactly what you're attempting to do but can't you just cut them square and nail them to the side of the roof rafters to give you the drywall soffit? -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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On Sunday, September 15, 2013 9:29:07 AM UTC-7, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
Need to cut short pieces of 2x4 (12" length) with ends cut at 60 deg. angle on the flat. These will tuck up under the peak of the attic so the drywall installer can make a small soffit. So, it's a RIP cut you want to make? It might be safer/easier to rip a 1x6 and glue two thicknesses together. |
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