On Monday, February 18, 2013 6:07:57 AM UTC-8, Swingman wrote:
Been watching this development in 3D modeling for the past year.



Won't be long before you'll be able to sit down at your Sketchup modeled

table to test how suitable it is for breakfast ... just a matter of scale:



Hmmm, your description would be more correct than how they are using "mis-using" the term Augmented Reality. In my day job I work in an industry where my products provide content for and interact with true AR systems and I have contact with the top researchers in this field. The common understanding of augmented reality is to add new items into an existing reality.

The typical usage is to put on a pair of glasses or headset of some sort. Then look around, walk around the room you are in and see new items augmented into the scene. So your table example is perfect. You should be able to look down and see the table in the room. Walk around it, etc.

What they are showing is more like a hologram or 3D heads up display or something.

On 2/20/2013 11:37 AM, SonomaProducts.com wrote:

Hmmm, your description would be more correct than how they are using "mis-using" the term Augmented Reality.

The common understanding of augmented reality is to add new items
into an existing reality.

Hmmm, my desk (existing reality) suddenly has a virtual 3D digital model
(new item) hovering above it.

Go figure ...

That said, you should take it up with the source if you want to be
nitpicking about their terminology:

http://www.armedia.it/technology.php

And Sony seems to agree with them:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Pr...58E/index.html

Let us know how far you get ...

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That said, you should take it up with the source if you want to be

nitpicking about their terminology:



http://www.armedia.it/technology.php



And Sony seems to agree with them:



http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Pr...58E/index.html



Let us know how far you get ...

The Sony example is correct. It augments a real sized stuffed bear into the reality of the room. The video you shared earlier showed a 3D model of a house sitting on a desktop. Houses don't fit on desktops. If they had a phone, then maybe. "Augmented reality (AR) is a live, direct or indirect, view of a physical, real-world environment whose elements are augmented by computer-generated sensory input such as sound, video, graphics or GPS data." Wikipedia. No not an unchallenged source but they do have a correct description.

I was just wasting time here and won't be going on any crusade to correct anyone beyond these comments. I just don't like seeing new technologies terms being co-opted and misrepresented. It's like those HD sunglasses you can buy. Just co-opting the HD concept to sell some crappy yellow sunglasses.

"SonomaProducts.com" wrote:

The Sony example is correct. It augments a real sized stuffed bear into
the reality of the room. The video you shared earlier showed a 3D model
of a house sitting on a desktop. Houses don't fit on desktops. If they
had a phone, then maybe. "Augmented reality (AR) is a live, direct or
indirect, view of a physical, real-world environment whose elements are
augmented by computer-generated sensory input such as sound, video,
graphics or GPS data." Wikipedia. No not an unchallenged source but they
do have a correct description.

That's your second attempt at a definition ... your first one was wrong,
then?

So, according to your above, and despite their technology being precisely
identical in either case, if AR-Media's example would have been a Care Bear
instead of a house, it would have been "AR", but, since they chose the
house in that instance to sell their Sketchup plugin, it is no longer the
same technology?

Wow ... are technologist really that nitpicking these days?

I was just wasting time here and won't be going on any crusade to correct
anyone beyond these comments. I just don't like seeing new technologies
terms being co-opted and misrepresented. It's like those HD sunglasses
you can buy. Just co-opting the HD concept to sell some crappy yellow sunglasses.

Happy horse ****, is happy horse **** ... and nitpicking and conflicting
definitions, instead of "correcting" anyone, looks more like someone
doesn't really understand it themselves?

Hey, don't mind me ... I'm just "wasting time here" too.

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That's your second attempt at a definition ... your first one was wrong,

then?



So, according to your above, and despite their technology being precisely

identical in either case, if AR-Media's example would have been a Care Bear

instead of a house, it would have been "AR", but, since they chose the

house in that instance to sell their Sketchup plugin, it is no longer the

same technology?



Wow ... are technologist really that nitpicking these days?



I was just wasting time here and won't be going on any crusade to correct

anyone beyond these comments. I just don't like seeing new technologies

terms being co-opted and misrepresented. It's like those HD sunglasses

you can buy. Just co-opting the HD concept to sell some crappy yellow sunglasses.



Happy horse ****, is happy horse **** ... and nitpicking and conflicting

definitions, instead of "correcting" anyone, looks more like someone

doesn't really understand it themselves?


Whoa is me. Why doesn't the world instantly recognize my brilliance?

The underlying technology is 3D display. One implementation is AR. This implementation is a classic case of a technology Vertical Integration. In this integration a Horizontal technology (3D display in this case) is integrated into various vertical markets or needs. In this case 3D display can be used to Augment Reality. It can also be used to spin a sketchup model in a random location. Spinning a reduced sized 3D image of a thing in random space is not AR. Placing a properly scaled and located 3D displayed item into a real world scene is AR.

My next lecture will be on 3D transformations and their 3x3 and 4x4 martix representations.