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Rebuilding Rechargable batteries
I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell.
About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? |
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On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote:
Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net http://gplus.to/eWoodShop KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote:
I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. .... Surely there're any number of locals to choose from there, aren't there? I save up and take a bunch w/ me when go to Wichita to a local shop there... -- |
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:11:50 -0600, Swingman wrote:
On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote: Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. Were they XRP batteries? The reason I ask is that line is winding down and those batteries (at least to me) are reasonably cheap to buy new. I can buy a pair of them at the local HD for$90.00. What may I ask did it cost for PrimeCell to rebuild one of them? |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:
I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? I recently bought a couple of batteries from batterydepot.com for my Bosch and so far so good. prices are better than primecell and shipping is 99cents and I don't have to send them and pay shipping both ways YMMV |
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On 11/29/2012 9:28 AM, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:11:50 -0600, Swingman wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote: Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. Were they XRP batteries? The reason I ask is that line is winding down and those batteries (at least to me) are reasonably cheap to buy new. I can buy a pair of them at the local HD for$90.00. Keep in mind that those batteries may be old from actual date of manufacture. These batteries may already be well past their prime. Something to think about. Typically it is always better to have a battery rebuilt with new Fresh cells. What may I ask did it cost for PrimeCell to rebuild one of them? |
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On 11/29/2012 10:03 AM, ChairMan wrote:
Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? I recently bought a couple of batteries from batterydepot.com for my Bosch and so far so good. prices are better than primecell and shipping is 99cents and I don't have to send them and pay shipping both ways YMMV Thanks, Ill take a look. |
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On Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:04:21 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote:
I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? Do you live in or near a larger town. We used to live in Wichita and we had two good, local alternatives that rebuilt and warranted tool batteries. RonB |
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On 11/29/2012 9:28 AM, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:11:50 -0600, Swingman wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote: Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. Were they XRP batteries? The reason I ask is that line is winding down and those batteries (at least to me) are reasonably cheap to buy new. I can buy a pair of them at the local HD for$90.00. I bought a couple of Makita drills and just used the DeWalt XRP as a backup, although it is a very usable drill and still a good backup in the house/truck. I may buy a L-ion battery for the DeWalt, but haven't done any homework on them yet. They're awfully damn proud of two L-ion 18v batteries and a charger these days. IME, the L-ion batteries keep a charge longer when not under use, so they should be ideal for keeping the old Dewally as a rarely used backup/extra. What may I ask did it cost for PrimeCell to rebuild one of them? Two 18v XRP's for $96 from PrimeCell in 2008, they quit as described above. Two more 18v XRP's for $70 from www.voltmanbatteries.com Also in 2008, and they lasted a bit longer, but not much. Basically no longer happy with either of these rebuild services ... -- eWoodShop: www.eWoodShop.com Wood Shop: www.e-WoodShop.net http://gplus.to/eWoodShop KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) |
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Leon wrote:
I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? Related: Some chargers just keep dumping the volts into a battery pack until you disconnect your tool. This is deadly for most batteries, severely limiting their lifespan. The fix for this is to put a timer on the primitive charger. I got one of these: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ds=power+timer You insert your battery into the charger and press the button on the timing unit. After six hours the timing unit shuts off the charger. |
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:39:20 -0600, "HeyBub"
You insert your battery into the charger and press the button on the timing unit. After six hours the timing unit shuts off the charger. How long does it take for your batteries to charge. My XRP batteries (about seven years old) take 35-40 minutes to get up a full charge. |
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On 11/29/2012 11:06 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 11/29/2012 9:28 AM, Dave wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:11:50 -0600, Swingman wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote: Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. Were they XRP batteries? The reason I ask is that line is winding down and those batteries (at least to me) are reasonably cheap to buy new. I can buy a pair of them at the local HD for$90.00. I bought a couple of Makita drills and just used the DeWalt XRP as a backup, although it is a very usable drill and still a good backup in the house/truck. I may buy a L-ion battery for the DeWalt, but haven't done any homework on them yet. They're awfully damn proud of two L-ion 18v batteries and a charger these days. From what I understand a L-Ion charger will most often charge the other type batteries however not the other way around. From what I understand you need a special smart charger for L-ion. IME, the L-ion batteries keep a charge longer when not under use, so they should be ideal for keeping the old Dewally as a rarely used backup/extra. What may I ask did it cost for PrimeCell to rebuild one of them? Two 18v XRP's for $96 from PrimeCell in 2008, they quit as described above. Two more 18v XRP's for $70 from www.voltmanbatteries.com Also in 2008, and they lasted a bit longer, but not much. Basically no longer happy with either of these rebuild services ... Look at this place, I am doing a 72 hour recycle recharge on my battery to see if that helps but will probably order here if I need to replace it. This is for the robot vac BTY. :~) http://www.mtobattery.com/store/ 6 month warranty and I - mailed them 2 times this morning with quick responses. Might also look at BatteryPlus near your home. |
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Glad this thread came up. I have 7 yr old batteries that may need rebuilding. They charge, but don't stay charged for very long, at all. For a PC drill, bought in 2005. I've never search for a charging service, here.
Sonny |
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:44:29 -0800 (PST), Sonny
For a PC drill, bought in 2005. I've never search for a charging service, here. You might get some rebuilding suggestions if you indicate where "here" is. |
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On Friday, November 30, 2012 1:26:13 AM UTC-6, Upscale wrote:
You might get some rebuilding suggestions if you indicate where "here" is. Lafayette, LA. For some time, I've considered sending my batteries to PrimeCell, but as long as I could charge and use them, even for a short while, I've hesitated sending them. This PrimeCell report is appreciated. The local "Builders Tools & Fasteners" can probably direct me to a rebuilder. I do at least half of my "tool business" with them and Marion seems to know every related business in the area and their owners by first name. Backup advisors (W-rec) are always appreciated, as well. Sonny |
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Dave wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:39:20 -0600, "HeyBub" You insert your battery into the charger and press the button on the timing unit. After six hours the timing unit shuts off the charger. How long does it take for your batteries to charge. My XRP batteries (about seven years old) take 35-40 minutes to get up a full charge. I actually don't know. The instructions that came with the drill and battery said not to leave the battery in the charger for more than seven hours, so the six-hour choice on the timing unit works adequately. |
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On 11/29/2012 10:51 AM, RonB wrote:
On Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:04:21 AM UTC-6, Leon wrote: I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? Do you live in or near a larger town. We used to live in Wichita and we had two good, local alternatives that rebuilt and warranted tool batteries. RonB Houston but oddly Google searches don't turn up much. |
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On 11/29/2012 1:39 PM, HeyBub wrote:
Leon wrote: I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? Related: Some chargers just keep dumping the volts into a battery pack until you disconnect your tool. This is deadly for most batteries, severely limiting their lifespan. The fix for this is to put a timer on the primitive charger. I got one of these: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...ds=power+timer You insert your battery into the charger and press the button on the timing unit. After six hours the timing unit shuts off the charger. This is on a robot vac, it literally runs 5 days a week and runs the battery to near completion every one of those days. It has a smart charger. |
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:06:51 -0700, Swingman wrote
(in article ): On 11/29/2012 9:28 AM, Dave wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 09:11:50 -0600, Swingman wrote: On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote: Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. Were they XRP batteries? The reason I ask is that line is winding down and those batteries (at least to me) are reasonably cheap to buy new. I can buy a pair of them at the local HD for$90.00. I bought a couple of Makita drills and just used the DeWalt XRP as a backup, although it is a very usable drill and still a good backup in the house/truck. I may buy a L-ion battery for the DeWalt, but haven't done any homework on them yet. They're awfully damn proud of two L-ion 18v batteries and a charger these days. IME, the L-ion batteries keep a charge longer when not under use, so they should be ideal for keeping the old Dewally as a rarely used backup/extra. What may I ask did it cost for PrimeCell to rebuild one of them? Two 18v XRP's for $96 from PrimeCell in 2008, they quit as described above. Two more 18v XRP's for $70 from www.voltmanbatteries.com Also in 2008, and they lasted a bit longer, but not much. Basically no longer happy with either of these rebuild services ... I used Freedombatteries to rebuild my original Milwaukee 14.4v NiCads. Upgraded to Nickel metal halide. Been using them a lot while building the wife's glass studio and can't complain (been about 6 months of hard use). Granted this is only a single data point. I would guess it's not the labor involved in the rebuild that causes the bad results, but more the quality of the cells used.... -Bruce |
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On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote:
I am looking for a new rebuilder, I had been using PrimeCell. About 2 years ago I had a battery rebuilt by Prime cell and it worked great for about 18 months. This battery was run down almost completely 5 days out of the week. Pleased I had it rebuilt again in June. within 2 months I saw that the battery was already not performing as expected. I contacted Primecell and they made several suggestion of things to check and none helped. They suggested returning the battery and I would get a 2/3 discount on replacement since the rebuild had been less than 60 days. For those using Primecell, their warranty is free replacement for the first 30 days, you pay 1/3 for replacement after 30 days and you pay 2/3 replacement between 60-90 days. After that the battery is out of warranty. AND you pay shipping both ways. Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. So any recommendations? AS a follow up, the battery in question powers an iRobot vacuum cleaner. It absolutely runs 5 days a week and most of the time the unit will shut down once the battery becomes discharged to a certain degree. Typically the daily run time is about 90~105 minutes. The Primecell battery is not quite 6 months old and runs for 25 minutes. The previous battery ran for 70 minutes after 18 months. Anyway I went with Battery Plus. They had the 3000mah battery in stock today and the cost was $50 less $5 with a coupon. ONE YEAR WARRANTY. If it only lasts a year it is still cheaper than the Primecell that lasted 18 months. |
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On 11/29/2012 9:11 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 11/29/2012 9:04 AM, Leon wrote: Prime Cell does not stand behind their products. In this particular instance a new battery comes with a 6 month battery from the manufacturer. I had the same problems with batteries from PrimeCell ... I have two dead DeWalt 18v that petered out within a few of months and would not hold a charge. You should check out Battery Plus on Beachnut near your house. Good warranty. |
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