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"Nibs" and raised grain
Having read some of the posts about the subject line I thought I would toss
out my experience. Most of what I make gets a generous coat of Watco Danish oil after sanding to 320. After allowing as much as will soak in I wipe as dry as I can. Allowing overnight drying I then apply a coat of Minwax quick drying poly, either gloss, semi-gloss or (my preference) satin. Sometimes one coat will do. More often, two or three coats. (especially with gloss). Most often I spray but I have used a brush when the weather absolutely prevented my spraying outside. (Not often in El Paso) Unless I use a water based poly (which I use on drawers) I very rarely have a problem with "nibs" or raised grain. And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I use that process on the majority of my projects. On the rest I follow "Nailshooters" directions. G Max |
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On Oct 24, 3:59*pm, "Max" wrote:
Having read some of the posts about the subject line I thought I would toss out my experience. Most of what I make gets a generous coat of Watco Danish oil after sanding to 320. *After allowing as much as will soak in I wipe as dry as I can. Allowing overnight drying I then apply a coat of Minwax quick drying poly, either gloss, semi-gloss or (my preference) satin. *Sometimes one coat will do. More often, two or three coats. (especially with gloss). *Most often I spray but I have used a brush when the weather absolutely prevented my spraying outside. *(Not often in El Paso) Unless I use a water based poly (which I use on drawers) I very rarely have a problem with "nibs" or raised grain. And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I use that process on the majority of my projects. On the rest I follow "Nailshooters" directions. *G Max Unless you start with Watco to pop the color, you can use the same Minwax poly, cut 50%, as an "oil" finish. |
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"Max" wrote in
eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, Han wrote:
"Max" wrote in web.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Han, if you ever want to find out something like this, open your browser and type in "how make -----", where ----- is the item of query. "How-to" info is rampant on the Web. Some of it is even usable! wink http://goo.gl/3O8LE "how make tack rag" nets 2.5M hits. Have fun! -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson |
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On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, Han wrote:
"Max" wrote in web.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Oops, I forgot to add that I don't use a tack rag. I wipe the piece down with lacquer thinner to remove all my oily fingerprints and anything else which has contaminated the wood prior to finish. I strongly recommend this method. Mineral spirits can also be used. To me, this works a helluva lot better than a tack rag, but I don't like or use high-gloss finishes very often. -- It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment. -- Freeman Dyson |
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"Han" wrote in message
... "Max" wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid Most of my tack cloths are made from the "wipe down" of Danish oil. I store them in quart jars. But *if* I need to make one I use varnish "slightly" diluted with thinner. If I'm using a water based poly, or a latex (rarely) finish, I use a damp (water) rag (wrung out well). Max |
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On 10/25/2011 7:53 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, wrote: wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Oops, I forgot to add that I don't use a tack rag. I wipe the piece down with lacquer thinner to remove all my oily fingerprints and anything else which has contaminated the wood prior to finish. I strongly recommend this method. Mineral spirits can also be used. To me, this works a helluva lot better than a tack rag, but I don't like or use high-gloss finishes very often. Agreed, I very seldom use a tack rag and it is not good to use one on some finishes although I can't recall which and why. Because I use gel varnishes 99% of the time a quick blow with my air hose gets rid of the excess but I am typically standing in saw dust when applying the finish and a fan is blowing. Care must be taken with the fan blowing directly at me as it will cause the finish to dry too much to wipe off the excess. |
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Han wrote:
"Max" wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack rags but they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust, -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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"dadiOH" wrote in :
Han wrote: "Max" wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack rags but they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust, Thanks all for your informative answers!!! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 10/25/2011 1:03 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Han wrote: wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack rags but they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust, They also collect all the old dryer sheets in any load of clothes! |
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On 10/26/2011 1:59 AM, Richard wrote:
On 10/25/2011 1:03 PM, dadiOH wrote: Han wrote: wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack rags but they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust, They also collect all the old dryer sheets in any load of clothes! IIRC you are not suppose to use those sheets/fabric softeners when washing and drying microfiber towels. |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:39:32 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: IIRC you are not suppose to use those sheets/fabric softeners when washing and drying microfiber towels. You do recall correctly. Just washed a few of mine. Instructions on them state no fabric softener/sheets. |
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On 10/26/2011 8:25 AM, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:39:32 -0500, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: IIRC you are not suppose to use those sheets/fabric softeners when washing and drying microfiber towels. You do recall correctly. Just washed a few of mine. Instructions on them state no fabric softener/sheets. I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. |
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"Dave" wrote in message
... On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually scratched them (Microfine scratches) :-) Max |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:04:34 -0600, "Max"
wrote: "Dave" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually scratched them (Microfine scratches) :-) Perhaps you should have eventually washed them sooner. (microhumor) -- Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace. -- Robert J. Sawyer |
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On 10/26/2011 9:30 AM, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. Great for wiping down appliances, and counter tops, they don't leave streaks. I use "2" 16x16 towels to dry my pick-up after I wash it. Bona floor products uses a micro fiber towel on their mops. I saw just the mop at a trade show and water was being used as the solvent, saw the guy open an Ozarka bottle of water, take a drink out of it and then pour a bit on a heel scuff mark on tile. The water and the microfiber towel took the mark up. With stubborn marks I simply stand on the mop and rub with my foot. They also work as a great sponge, I now soak up the bottom of a toilet tank with a micro fiber towel when replacing the valve assembly. Good for dusting and as you have seen cleaning and or drying your glasses. |
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Max wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually scratched them (Microfine scratches) :-) More likely, whatever you were wiping off your glasses scratched them -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:16:06 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote: On 10/26/2011 9:30 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. Great for wiping down appliances, and counter tops, they don't leave streaks. I use "2" 16x16 towels to dry my pick-up after I wash it. I use a squeegee, beach towel, and chamois on my pickup. Bona floor products uses a micro fiber towel on their mops. I saw just the mop at a trade show and water was being used as the solvent, saw the guy open an Ozarka bottle of water, take a drink out of it and then pour a bit on a heel scuff mark on tile. The water and the microfiber towel took the mark up. With stubborn marks I simply stand on the mop and rub with my foot. I really like a mop which can do that. They also work as a great sponge, I now soak up the bottom of a toilet tank with a micro fiber towel when replacing the valve assembly. I find mopping the floor easier in most cases. In my carpeted master bath, I think those would be a boon. Good for dusting and as you have seen cleaning and or drying your glasses. Ditto. -- Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace. -- Robert J. Sawyer |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ,
"Max" wrote: I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually scratched them (Microfine scratches) :-) Perhaps you should have eventually washed them sooner. (microhumor) -- Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace. -- Robert J. Sawyer Hate when that happens. |
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On 10/26/2011 3:20 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:16:06 -0500, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 10/26/2011 9:30 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leonlcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash them separately. Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff. Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly. Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish it. Great for wiping down appliances, and counter tops, they don't leave streaks. I use "2" 16x16 towels to dry my pick-up after I wash it. I use a squeegee, beach towel, and chamois on my pickup. I used too but not any more! Bona floor products uses a micro fiber towel on their mops. I saw just the mop at a trade show and water was being used as the solvent, saw the guy open an Ozarka bottle of water, take a drink out of it and then pour a bit on a heel scuff mark on tile. The water and the microfiber towel took the mark up. With stubborn marks I simply stand on the mop and rub with my foot. I really like a mop which can do that. But you have to drench the mop and a mop is more expensive. They also work as a great sponge, I now soak up the bottom of a toilet tank with a micro fiber towel when replacing the valve assembly. I find mopping the floor easier in most cases. In my carpeted master bath, I think those would be a boon. Not when you are doing it for a customer. Good for dusting and as you have seen cleaning and or drying your glasses. Ditto. -- Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace. -- Robert J. Sawyer |
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:05:17 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote: More likely, whatever you were wiping off your glasses scratched them Not that I've been able to see. |
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On 10/25/2011 8:48 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, wrote: wrote in eb.com: And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton T-shirts) I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please? Han, if you ever want to find out something like this, open your browser and type in "how make -----", where ----- is the item of query. "How-to" info is rampant on the Web. Some of it is even usable!wink http://goo.gl/3O8LE "how make tack rag" nets 2.5M hits. Have fun! Had he done this, he would never have found out that you use lacquer thinner rather than a tack rag... About nothing posted in this rec could not be found tramping around the net. -- Jack Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life. http://jbstein.com |
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