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Yet ANOTHER use for WD40
I spray it on electrical contacts and other electrical components to
displace water and prevent corrosion. It works great for that! I learned the trick way back when I worked as a technician in an underground missile silo. TES |
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I've always understood you are to use ED-80 on electricals, rather
than WD-40. Sonny |
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I would be concerned that the chemicals so deposited could CREATE problems
with electrical circuitry, especially when there is any contact arcing. Is the resistance of the dry material infinite? What might the voltage limits be? Maybe okay for 12 volts automotive systems, but not for 480 volt power distribution? I remember using Freon TF and Freon TMC for cleaning high voltage (20KV circuit components before potting them. Choosing the right cleaner was a real big deal. Pete Stanaitis ---------------- "Theodore Edward Stosterone" wrote in message ... I spray it on electrical contacts and other electrical components to displace water and prevent corrosion. It works great for that! I learned the trick way back when I worked as a technician in an underground missile silo. TES |
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WD-40 my be OK for a manually operate contact but not for an electrically
operated contact. We had a guy try it on a bank of relays and the whole thing seized to halt! The stuff evaporates and leaves a sticky mess,not to mention where any arcing has occurred the result is pile of sticky carbon and a flash that burns the contacts beyond usable. DO NOT USE WD-40 ON CONTACTS! keeps it use to hinges and things where you don`t mind having to reapply every 2-3months for the rest of your life. A few mechanics have witnessed signs inside the hoods of`vehicles ``USE OF WD-40 ON THIS ENGINE WILL RESULT AND NOT PAYING THE BILL OR LITIGATION FOR DAMAGES`` ---------------------- "Pete S" wrote in message ... I would be concerned that the chemicals so deposited could CREATE problems with electrical circuitry, especially when there is any contact arcing. Is the resistance of the dry material infinite? What might the voltage limits be? Maybe okay for 12 volts automotive systems, but not for 480 volt power distribution? I remember using Freon TF and Freon TMC for cleaning high voltage (20KV circuit components before potting them. Choosing the right cleaner was a real big deal. Pete Stanaitis ---------------- "Theodore Edward Stosterone" wrote in message ... I spray it on electrical contacts and other electrical components to displace water and prevent corrosion. It works great for that! I learned the trick way back when I worked as a technician in an underground missile silo. TES |
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On 7/20/2011 8:35 AM, Pete S wrote:
I would be concerned that the chemicals so deposited could CREATE problems with electrical circuitry, especially when there is any contact arcing. Is the resistance of the dry material infinite? What might the voltage limits be? Maybe okay for 12 volts automotive systems, but not for 480 volt power distribution? Actually WD-40 worked great in old automotive distributor caps to displace condensation, 20,000-40,000 volts and plenty of arcing. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:18:28 -0700 (PDT), Sonny
wrote: I've always understood you are to use ED-80 on electricals, rather than WD-40. Izzat "electron displacer" v. "water displacer", son? -- Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. -- Abraham Lincoln |
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On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, m II wrote:
WD-40 my be OK for a manually operate contact but not for an electrically operated contact. We had a guy try it on a bank of relays and the whole thing seized to halt! The stuff evaporates and leaves a sticky mess,not to mention where any arcing has occurred the result is pile of sticky carbon and a flash that burns the contacts beyond usable. DO NOT USE WD-40 ON CONTACTS! keeps it use to hinges and things where you don`t mind having to reapply every 2-3months for the rest of your life. A few mechanics have witnessed signs inside the hoods of`vehicles ``USE OF WD-40 ON THIS ENGINE WILL RESULT AND NOT PAYING THE BILL OR LITIGATION FOR DAMAGES`` I suspect dam few to none. Having retired from the automotive industry and having been the service manager for an automobile dealership I can honestly say that I have never ever witnessed or heard of a sign, sticker, label or what ever indicating not to use WD-40 "under" the hood. We used cases of WD-40 in the shop, and under the hood. WD-40, Water Displacement- formula # 40 is a **** poor permanent lubricant. It works great for helping to loosen rusted nuts, bolts, and frozen assemblies but the lubricating qualities are very short lived. AND of course to displace moisture. Lithium grease is a much better choice for a long term lubrication of hinges. |
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In article , "m II" wrote:
WD-40 my be OK for a manually operate contact but not for an electrically operated contact. We had a guy try it on a bank of relays and the whole thing seized to halt! Sure you did. Urban legend. Something you heard from a friend of a friend. The stuff evaporates and leaves a sticky mess, Garbage. It does nothing of the kind. not to mention where any arcing has occurred the result is pile of sticky carbon and a flash that burns the contacts beyond usable. That, of course, is the entirely *normal* result of an electrical arc *without* WD-40. A few mechanics have witnessed signs inside the hoods of`vehicles ``USE OF WD-40 ON THIS ENGINE WILL RESULT AND NOT PAYING THE BILL OR LITIGATION FOR DAMAGES`` If by "a few" you mean "zero" then this is probably true. |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40
Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES |
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"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message ... On 7/20/2011 8:35 AM, Pete S wrote: I would be concerned that the chemicals so deposited could CREATE problems with electrical circuitry, especially when there is any contact arcing. Is the resistance of the dry material infinite? What might the voltage limits be? Maybe okay for 12 volts automotive systems, but not for 480 volt power distribution? Actually WD-40 worked great in old automotive distributor caps to displace condensation, 20,000-40,000 volts and plenty of arcing. Been there, done that. Thats the only good use I have found for WD 40. ww |
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On 7/20/11 9:27 AM, Zz Yzx wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40 Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES Did you even read your own link? :-) "The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture." -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Zz Yzx wrote the following:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40 Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES Let's see what the WD-40 site says about that, shall we? http://www.wd40.com/uses-tips/function/other-uses/ -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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Contacts do **NOT** corrode. Contacts may tarnish being made from copper,
brass, silver and gold. Spraying it on electrical equipment to displace does not mean into the conductors. When you have water in your electrical conductors you have a bigger problem. --------------- "Zz Yzx" wrote in message ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40 Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES |
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On 7/20/2011 3:44 PM, Josepi wrote:
Contacts do **NOT** corrode. Contacts may tarnish being made from copper, brass, silver and gold. If not corrode, they will absolutely pit. And I assure you gold contacts WILL NOT tarnish. Spraying it on electrical equipment to displace does not mean into the conductors. When you have water in your electrical conductors you have a bigger problem. --------------- "Zz Yzx" wrote in message ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40 Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:59:25 -0700, Theodore Edward Stosterone
wrote: I spray it on electrical contacts and other electrical components to displace water and prevent corrosion. It works great for that! I learned the trick way back when I worked as a technician in an underground missile silo. TES But do NOT use the aerosol spray to displace moisture where arcing may occur. I learnrd that the "fast" way when I used it to dry out my distributor cap, and blew it right off when I tried to start the car. (1963 Valiant slant six) |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:11:59 -0600, "WW"
wrote: "Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote in message m... On 7/20/2011 8:35 AM, Pete S wrote: I would be concerned that the chemicals so deposited could CREATE problems with electrical circuitry, especially when there is any contact arcing. Is the resistance of the dry material infinite? What might the voltage limits be? Maybe okay for 12 volts automotive systems, but not for 480 volt power distribution? Actually WD-40 worked great in old automotive distributor caps to displace condensation, 20,000-40,000 volts and plenty of arcing. Been there, done that. Thats the only good use I have found for WD 40. ww It does not stay on the contacts very long - and even there it CAN cause carbon build-up on the electrodes - which is blasted off by the next couple of "lightning strikes" - and is not a problem since the "electrodes" are not "contacts" - i.e. - they NEVER touch. |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:44:31 -0400, "Josepi"
wrote: Contacts do **NOT** corrode. Contacts may tarnish being made from copper, brass, silver and gold. Spraying it on electrical equipment to displace does not mean into the conductors. When you have water in your electrical conductors you have a bigger problem. --------------- "Zz Yzx" wrote in message .. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40 Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES Many contacts DO corrode, depending on the environment. Brass sure can corrode - so can copper. However,arcing, and the associated transfer of metal, is a more serious problem - even with contacts of tungsten or platinum. (look at a set of ignition points that have been in service for an extended period of time in a standard "kettering" type system) |
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Did you even read your own link? :-)
"The long-term active ingredient is a non-volatile, viscous oil which remains on the surface, providing lubrication and protection from moisture." OF COURSE they want to sell that attribute. But ask an engineer if they'd use WD40 as a lubricant. Next, you'll be telling me that Pepto-Bismal has no bismuth, and that Kaopectate has no kayolinite or pectin (it used to, but no more; actually, now Kaopectate IS Pepto-Bismal). Jes- sayin' ..... -Zz |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 13:52:12 -0400, willshak
wrote: Zz Yzx wrote the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wd40 Sheesh guys. WD40 was invented to displace water and prevent corrosion of electrical contacts. It has no to none lubricitive properties. -TES Let's see what the WD-40 site says about that, shall we? http://www.wd40.com/uses-tips/function/other-uses/ or their other page at http://www.wd40.com/about-us/history/ -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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Leon wrote:
On 7/20/2011 8:48 AM, m II wrote: WD-40 my be OK for a manually operate contact but not for an electrically operated contact. We had a guy try it on a bank of relays and the whole thing seized to halt! The stuff evaporates and leaves a sticky mess,not to mention where any arcing has occurred the result is pile of sticky carbon and a flash that burns the contacts beyond usable. DO NOT USE WD-40 ON CONTACTS! keeps it use to hinges and things where you don`t mind having to reapply every 2-3months for the rest of your life. A few mechanics have witnessed signs inside the hoods of`vehicles ``USE OF WD-40 ON THIS ENGINE WILL RESULT AND NOT PAYING THE BILL OR LITIGATION FOR DAMAGES`` I suspect dam few to none. Having retired from the automotive industry and having been the service manager for an automobile dealership I can honestly say that I have never ever witnessed or heard of a sign, sticker, label or what ever indicating not to use WD-40 "under" the hood. We used cases of WD-40 in the shop, and under the hood. WD-40, Water Displacement- formula # 40 is a **** poor permanent lubricant. It works great for helping to loosen rusted nuts, bolts, and frozen assemblies but the lubricating qualities are very short lived. AND of course to displace moisture. Lithium grease is a much better choice for a long term lubrication of hinges. I suspect what he's saying Leon, is that he's put that sticker under his own hood, and mechanics that have worked on his car have seen it. -- -Mike- |
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I guess I used the wrong word. "Corrosion" is a general term for "rotting" I
was thinking of the term "rust". Not from the Griswolds... LOL. Thanx for being so polite, OCD. It keeps the posts more honest and makes us educate ourselves in correct terminology. ------------------- wrote in message ... Many contacts DO corrode, depending on the environment. Brass sure can corrode - so can copper. However,arcing, and the associated transfer of metal, is a more serious problem - even with contacts of tungsten or platinum. (look at a set of ignition points that have been in service for an extended period of time in a standard "kettering" type system) -------- On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 16:44:31 -0400, "Josepi" wrote: Contacts do **NOT** corrode. Contacts may tarnish being made from copper, brass, silver and gold. Spraying it on electrical equipment to displace does not mean into the conductors. When you have water in your electrical conductors you have a bigger problem. |
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Ohhhh. the old slant six!
Had a gutless one of those, with a broken engine mount, once! It squealed the tires for 30 feet with both feet pushing the brake pedal through the floor. I think it was the WD-40 the mechanic used on the engine mounts. ------------ wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:59:25 -0700, Theodore Edward Stosterone But do NOT use the aerosol spray to displace moisture where arcing may occur. I learnrd that the "fast" way when I used it to dry out my distributor cap, and blew it right off when I tried to start the car. (1963 Valiant slant six) |
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On 7/21/2011 11:36 AM, Josepi wrote:
Ohhhh. the old slant six! Had a gutless one of those, with a broken engine mount, once! It squealed the tires for 30 feet with both feet pushing the brake pedal through the floor. I think it was the WD-40 the mechanic used on the engine mounts. ------------ wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:59:25 -0700, Theodore Edward Stosterone But do NOT use the aerosol spray to displace moisture where arcing may occur. I learnrd that the "fast" way when I used it to dry out my distributor cap, and blew it right off when I tried to start the car. (1963 Valiant slant six) Sounds like you had a thief mechanic trying to produce the need for work. Don't blame engine mount failure on WD-40, any oil will shorten the life of a rubber motor mount. |
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On 7/20/2011 5:59 AM, Theodore Edward Stosterone wrote:
I spray it on electrical contacts and other electrical components to displace water and prevent corrosion. It works great for that! I learned the trick way back when I worked as a technician in an underground missile silo. that's what it was made for. |
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