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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.

Noticed the cost of food lately?

You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.

Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.

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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.

Noticed the cost of food lately?

You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.

Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.

Lew



Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming

We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


It costs twice that in Europe yet is still cheaper than bottled water.
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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Come north for a visit, Lew. We've had gas in that range for a long
time. Yet our economy seems to be doing better than yours...

Noticed the cost of food lately?


Some of the subsidies coming off down there? About time.

You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


One of them. How come the US isn't doing it on US soil?

Or building nuclear plants?

Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Well, it's probably not to defend Israel any more...
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
Continued unrest in the MidEast.


## Nah. Muslims killing Muslims is the norm.


How long before $5/gal gasoline.


## Dunno. Right now, at ~$3/gallon it's still cheaper than at anytime since
1918 (with one exception under Carter)


Noticed the cost of food lately?


## Uh, no. Big Macs still cost the same as they did last year.


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.

Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


## Everything's got to be somewhere.


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Noticed the cost of food lately?


Some of the subsidies coming off down there? About time.


Actually has more to do with gasohol than with subsidies.


That's nonsense. It has to do with protectionism, keeping up with
European farm subsidies, and intruding into developing economies.
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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.

Noticed the cost of food lately?

You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.

Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.

Lew



Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming

We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the US,
gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon, that is
$4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon because that
is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian oil that our
overpriced gas is made from.

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In article om, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.

Noticed the cost of food lately?


Due in large part to turning corn into fuel.

You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


Well, yes, it is. When the supply of a product increases, the price decreases.
That's Economics 101.


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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Come north for a visit, Lew. We've had gas in that range for a long
time. Yet our economy seems to be doing better than yours...

Noticed the cost of food lately?


Some of the subsidies coming off down there? About time.


It hurts, but I agree. There should be no subsidies to multinational
(or domestic) agro/food giants.


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


One of them. How come the US isn't doing it on US soil?


They are. Only the Treehuggers know why we're not drilling offshore.
I remember the mess on CA beaches in the late '60s from the Santa
Monica spill, and I'd =MUCH= rather face the -possibility- of those
hazards than to feed the Arabs who are supporting Islamic terrorists.

You do know that 34% of our oil is domestic, don't you? Another third
we get from Canada and Mexico. That last third is Arab imports.
http://lugar.senate.gov/energy/graphs/oilimport.html


Or building nuclear plants?


They are, finally!
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear...eactorcom.html


Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Well, it's probably not to defend Israel any more...


They're supposed to keep safe the flow of oil from the region, not
defend Israel...aren't they?

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eb.com...

Continued unrest in the MidEast.


How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Noticed the cost of food lately?


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Lew


Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming

We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


40 Oz gallon, right? (Imperial)
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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the US,
gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon, that is
$4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon because that
is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian oil that our
overpriced gas is made from.


And two summers back it was $1.45/litre...
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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.

Noticed the cost of food lately?

You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.

Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.

Lew


We cannot drill for oil here because the powers that be are sitting on it,
waiting for $15 a gallon gas down the line. Plus, it would disturb the
striped slug, porcupine caribou mouse, Kanab pond snail, and spotted roufus
titcatcher.

And we can't have that.

We don't have a hell of a lot left, but we're sitting right on top of it in
our own country, and we won't go and get it. Seems like it's time to clean
house of tyrants and fertilize a few trees.

Let's get reasonable. Let's drive smaller, more efficient cars. Let's
insulate. Let's just plug the holes where we are using too much. That
would be a big start.

Or, we could wait for Barry to produce all those millions of "green jobs"
waiting somewhere mysteriously in the wings to be produced with all that
green money they must have lining the halls of Congress somewhere. (I do
wonder where all that money is stored.) Or continue spending it on
"studies" done by political supporters, teacher union types, and dope
smoking hippies doing studies on the sex habits of college freshmen. (I
applied for that, but was denied as being overqualified.) I'm thinking of
building an underground house. If I am going to end up living in a cave,
it's going to be a good one.


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4.54 l per Imperial gallon
3.78 l per US gallon. (French sucked them in to a standard and then
changed...again)

That would make it $5.22 per Imperial gallon

$4.34 per US gallon.

The US just needs to get a bigger gallon or change to metric (as they
started in '55) and cut their unit price by almost a factor of 4.

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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the US,
gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon, that is
$4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon because that
is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian oil that our
overpriced gas is made from.

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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the US,
gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon, that is
$4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon because
that is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian oil that
our overpriced gas is made from.


Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?

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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the US,
gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon, that is
$4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon because
that is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian oil that
our overpriced gas is made from.


Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?


Troll!
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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


No sooner than we are willing to pay that price. The perceived supply and
demand really has no effect on gasoline prices so much as the other pricing
stratigy, "What The Market Will Bare". If we are stupid enough to pay high
prices they are certainly going to charge those prices.

I paid $3.17 for premium at a Chevron station today, regular was $2.89,
what are you guys in California willing to pay?




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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


No sooner than we are willing to pay that price. The perceived supply and
demand really has no effect on gasoline prices so much as the other pricing
stratigy, "What The Market Will Bare". If we are stupid enough to pay high
prices they are certainly going to charge those prices.

I paid $3.17 for premium at a Chevron station today, regular was $2.89,
what are you guys in California willing to pay?


I paid $3.03 (regular) in Indianapolis today, and I filled up feeling
fortunate it wasn't higher. Considering "What The Market Will Bare"
certainly is another aspect.. ; )

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eb.com...

Continued unrest in the MidEast.


How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Noticed the cost of food lately?


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Lew


Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming

We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


40 Oz gallon, right? (Imperial)

*********************

Don't quite follow that
but the Imperial gallon is approximately 4.5 litres and just a little bit
more
the US gallon is 4 litres
or thereabouts
so, the US gallon divided by 4 equals 4 litres
so, at $4.00 a gallon, brings you to the result of $1.00 per litre
Regardless of how many litres are in an Imperial gallon, which by the way,
we do not work with here in OZ, as we have progressed Dorothy and we work
with metrics.
and as we all know, the measurement of a litre does not differ wherever you
live
so, the cost of a litre of fuel, gas to you, petrol to us, fuel to others,
here in OZ, is $1.50 a litre
Bringing up to the conclusion that we pay 50% more for our fuel than what
you do
Then again, we do pay a lot more for our cars than you
Do you call them cars over there ?


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Personally I'd like to see $6-8/gal gasoline, the sooner the better.

It just might get some serious alternate energy research off the ground.

Nothing like a pocket book issue to get your attention.


True, but....
It will also mean many will have to get another extra vehicle. You can't
tow a 21 foot runabout with a Volkswagen turbo diesel. You can't pull a
bobcat or backhoe with one, either. Nor can you carry much mulch or gravel
in a mini pickup, and a larger vehicle will be necessary to tote a new set
of cabinets to their owner.

Factor in everyone paying more for _everything_ when fuel goes significantly
higher. In the US, virtually everything a person buys has traveled by
truck.
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I paid $3.17 for premium at a Chevron station today, regular was $2.89,
what are you guys in California willing to pay?


3.17 is what regular costs in MA. At home in CT it is 3.34. Glad I live in
a border town as they are proposing another 3¢ on gas here.

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eb.com...

Continued unrest in the MidEast.


How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Noticed the cost of food lately?


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Lew


Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming

We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


40 Oz gallon, right? (Imperial)

*********************

Don't quite follow that


He meant 40oz quart (160oz gallon). An imperial gallon is 160/128 (40/32 or
125%) of a US gallon.

but the Imperial gallon is approximately 4.5 litres and just a little bit
more
the US gallon is 4 litres
or thereabouts
so, the US gallon divided by 4 equals 4 litres
so, at $4.00 a gallon, brings you to the result of $1.00 per litre
Regardless of how many litres are in an Imperial gallon, which by the way,
we do not work with here in OZ, as we have progressed Dorothy and we work
with metrics.
and as we all know, the measurement of a litre does not differ wherever you
live
so, the cost of a litre of fuel, gas to you, petrol to us, fuel to others,
here in OZ, is $1.50 a litre
Bringing up to the conclusion that we pay 50% more for our fuel than what
you do
Then again, we do pay a lot more for our cars than you
Do you call them cars over there ?

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Continued unrest in the MidEast.


How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Noticed the cost of food lately?


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Lew


Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming


We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


40 Oz gallon, right? (Imperial)

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Don't quite follow that


40 0unce quarts...160 oz gallons as opposed to the US 32 ounce quarts.



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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


No sooner than we are willing to pay that price. The perceived supply and
demand really has no effect on gasoline prices so much as the other pricing
stratigy, "What The Market Will Bare". If we are stupid enough to pay high
prices they are certainly going to charge those prices.

I paid $3.17 for premium at a Chevron station today, regular was $2.89,
what are you guys in California willing to pay?


I paid $3.03 (regular) in Indianapolis today, and I filled up feeling
fortunate it wasn't higher. Considering "What The Market Will Bare"
certainly is another aspect.. ; )


Naked gas station staff?
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web.com...


Continued unrest in the MidEast.


How long before $5/gal gasoline.


Noticed the cost of food lately?


You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.


Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.


Lew


Just reading where it is $2.91 in Wyoming


We here in OZ are paying $6 a gallon for premium and $5.60 for regular


40 Oz gallon, right? (Imperial)

*********************

Don't quite follow that


40 0unce quarts...160 oz gallons as opposed to the US 32 ounce quarts.

******************

Okay, now I understand it all
It's just that you lot over there speak a foriegn language and it needs to
be interpreted


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Continued unrest in the MidEast.
How long before $5/gal gasoline.
Noticed the cost of food lately?
You betcha, let's dig for more oil, that's the answer.
Wonder why the 5th fleet is located where it is.

Lew


Just for fun.
In Holland regular (euro 95) is €1.579 per liter
(at a BP station in Wageningen, so probably could be had for a little less)

€1.00 =$1.3572
gas is 1.3572*1.579=$2.1430188 per liter
1 US gallon = 3.78 liter

In Holland 1 gallon of regular costs $8.10

Have a happy Tuesday ...

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"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.


No sooner than we are willing to pay that price. The perceived supply and
demand really has no effect on gasoline prices so much as the other
pricing stratigy, "What The Market Will Bare". If we are stupid enough to
pay high prices they are certainly going to charge those prices.

I paid $3.17 for premium at a Chevron station today, regular was $2.89,
what are you guys in California willing to pay?



I will add that prices at that station are normally less than the
competition down the street. One block east and west regular goes for $2.99
and Premium is close to $3.30. The station I bought from simply decided to
not gouge quite as deeply.
A couple of weeks ago I saw gasoline go up by 15 cents per gallon at a local
station. A week later they were back in line with the competition. They
were trying to persuade the local competition to go up too.

The gasoline stations pricing strategy goes like this.

1. Raise the price for no reason other than to make more profit. Nothing
wrong with that.
2. Did they like the results of raising the price?
3. yes, Leave the price at the higher rate.
4. no, Lower the price again.


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Leon wrote:
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Continued unrest in the MidEast.

How long before $5/gal gasoline.

No sooner than we are willing to pay that price. The perceived supply and
demand really has no effect on gasoline prices so much as the other pricing
stratigy, "What The Market Will Bare". If we are stupid enough to pay high
prices they are certainly going to charge those prices.

I paid $3.17 for premium at a Chevron station today, regular was $2.89,
what are you guys in California willing to pay?


I paid $3.03 (regular) in Indianapolis today, and I filled up feeling
fortunate it wasn't higher. Considering "What The Market Will Bare"
certainly is another aspect.. ; )


Naked gas station staff?


They might be a little more careful with that hot coffee, no? ; )


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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the
US, gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon,
that is $4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon
because that is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian
oil that our overpriced gas is made from.


Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?


Healthcare is NOT free. In Ontario, all employers have to pay a premium for
each employee, and each employee has to pay a premium for healthcare that is
added on to the annual income tax total.

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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the
US, gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon,
that is $4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon
because that is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian
oil that our overpriced gas is made from.


Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?


Healthcare is NOT free. In Ontario, all employers have to pay a premium for
each employee, and each employee has to pay a premium for healthcare that is
added on to the annual income tax total.


What about health care for someone who isn't employed - is that free?

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My hometown is largely based on petro-chemica industry. (And bananas)
I can't count how many oil guys I know who are very much in demand to
drill, build related industries all over Canada.
But the oil companies know a good thing when they see it: a conflict
in Egypt.."Hey let's screw over our customers with a price hike" even
though the actual amount of oil going through the Suez Canal is a mere
pittance of what we need here.
Ahhh yes, that good-ol' fear-driven marketing strategy, works in
politics too."LOOK OUT!! A boogaboo under your bed!!!"


Not to mention the refinerys that go down for maintence or repairs. The
local news paper tells us how this particular refinery in Oklahoma being
down is going to affect the price of gasoline because of it not producing.
BS! Any one refinery produces the "drop in the bucket" in the grands scheme
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Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?


Healthcare is NOT free. In Ontario, all employers have to pay a premium
for each employee, and each employee has to pay a premium for healthcare
that is added on to the annual income tax total.


Of course, that was my point, that sooner or later, one way or another, you
pay for it.

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My hometown is largely based on petro-chemica industry. (And bananas)
I can't count how many oil guys I know who are very much in demand to
drill, build related industries all over Canada.
But the oil companies know a good thing when they see it: a conflict
in Egypt.."Hey let's screw over our customers with a price hike" even
though the actual amount of oil going through the Suez Canal is a mere
pittance of what we need here.
Ahhh yes, that good-ol' fear-driven marketing strategy, works in
politics too."LOOK OUT!! A boogaboo under your bed!!!"


Not to mention the refinerys that go down for maintenance or repairs.
The local news paper tells us how this particular refinery in Oklahoma
being down is going to affect the price of gasoline because of it not
producing. BS! Any one refinery produces the "drop in the bucket" in the
grands scheme of things.


I have no doubt that the petroleum market is one of the [if not THE]
most manipulated commodities on the planet - think Enron. You have to
wonder if a lot of the volume isn't being traded back and forth between
brokers just to artificially inflate the price. And, you have to wonder
that if it costs less to produce a domestic barrel (shouldn't it?) why
producers still get the global price for a home grown barrel. Well, I guess
anybody can guess that.
As for refineries, the majors have been wailing for years about the
government regulations and red tape, not to mention the cost, of building
any new facilities. They also like to cite how the public is 'NIMBY.' And
I think that's BS. "Squeezing" the supply line helps to keep the price of
their inventory inflated. Then again, if BP wanted to build within 10 miles
of my home I'd cry NIMBY, as loud as the next guy.

Dave in Houston



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Ahhh yes, that good-ol' fear-driven marketing strategy, works in
politics too."LOOK OUT!! A boogaboo under your bed!!!"


Of course the Chicago Board of Trade people love it.

Mark
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Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?


Healthcare is NOT free. In Ontario, all employers have to pay a premium
for each employee, and each employee has to pay a premium for healthcare
that is added on to the annual income tax total.


Of course, that was my point, that sooner or later, one way or another,
you pay for it.


Right, but so many US residents (particularly far right Republicans) seem to
be convinced that Healthcare is provided free to everyone. Yes, children and
those who cannot work are covered at no cost to themselves, just the same as
police protection, fire fighters and other services that are paid out of tax
revenues. Not everything is covered, there are still many procedures,
services or treatments that must be paid for by those requesting them.

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Not to mention the refinerys that go down for maintence or repairs. The
local news paper tells us how this particular refinery in
Oklahoma being down is going to affect the price of gasoline because
of it not producing. BS! Any one refinery produces the "drop in the
bucket" in the grands scheme of things.


It DOES make a difference. Virtually all U.S. refineries are operating at
100% capacity. When one goes offline, the effects are almost always felt.


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Here in Canada, where we have all the oil sands and export most to the
US, gasoline in Ontario costs $1.15 per litre, at 4 litres per gallon,
that is $4.60 per gallon. Don't complain about $3.00 to $4.00 a gallon
because that is a bargain, and it is probably made from the same Canadian
oil that our overpriced gas is made from.


Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?


Healthcare is NOT free. In Ontario, all employers have to pay a premium for
each employee, and each employee has to pay a premium for healthcare that is
added on to the annual income tax total.


You have been trolled. The discussion was about gas prices and Devvy
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anews.com...

Apparently that "free" health care has to be paid for somehow, who knew?

Healthcare is NOT free. In Ontario, all employers have to pay a premium
for each employee, and each employee has to pay a premium for healthcare
that is added on to the annual income tax total.


Of course, that was my point, that sooner or later, one way or another, you
pay for it.


And what does that troll have to do with the price of gas?
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