On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:51:24 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 11/4/2010 5:32 PM, Bill wrote:
John Grossbohlin wrote:

I hear the new L-N glue will allow the various pieces of wood to grow
together seamlessly.

John


Just add water?

No, it has to the natural byproduct of Shiner Beer, applied naturally ...

Thats filtered first... right?

Mark

"RicodJour" wrote in message
It's so much quicker to have firm opinions on tools you've never
used.

Well, in this cas, my firm opinion is practical. I own a Kerfmaker Pro. Been
in my possession since the beginning of October. I've only used it twice,
but both times, the joints were flawless.

All this stuff about being overpriced and unnecessary overlooks several
things. The first is that similar joints made by me in the past were poorly
done. Obviously, that's my fault because I hadn't learned the proper
procedures. Now with the Kerfmaker my joints are exceptional. Maybe I might
be criticised for spending my money and taking what some might call a
shortcut. But, now I have the confidence and ability to construct them well
and will do so. Isn't that the most important thing in woodworking, to build
ever better constructed projects? Doesn't matter so much as how you get
there, just that you find a means to do so.

"Upscale" wrote

All this stuff about being overpriced and unnecessary overlooks several
things. The first is that similar joints made by me in the past were
poorly done. Obviously, that's my fault because I hadn't learned the
proper procedures. Now with the Kerfmaker my joints are exceptional. Maybe
I might be criticised for spending my money and taking what some might
call a shortcut. But, now I have the confidence and ability to construct
them well and will do so. Isn't that the most important thing in
woodworking, to build ever better constructed projects? Doesn't matter so
much as how you get there, just that you find a means to do so.



It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

That means that you just became a much better woodworker.

Or...., a good facsimile thereof.

On Nov 4, 10:44*pm, "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
"Upscale" wrote



All this stuff about being overpriced and unnecessary overlooks several
things. The first is that similar joints made by me in the past were
poorly done. Obviously, that's my fault because I hadn't learned the
proper procedures. Now with the Kerfmaker my joints are exceptional. Maybe
I might be criticised for spending my money and taking what some might
call a shortcut. But, now I have the confidence and ability to construct
them well and will do so. Isn't that the most important thing in
woodworking, to build ever better constructed projects? Doesn't matter so
much as how you get there, just that you find a means to do so.

It is an old maxim, but it is true. *You can tell how good a woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

R

On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)

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To reply, eat the taco.
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"Larry W" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Upscale wrote:


Well of course it really comes down to opinion and individual preference
in this instance. For my own needs and preferences, I stand by my
statement of opinion that the Kerfmaker is an unnecessary, exorbitantly
priced, and overrated tool. I'll stick with the old method, accurate,
tried and true in my experience, and described in the past on the rec,
of cutting any old piece of scrap as a guide. YMMV and your opinion
may be different. That's what makes the world and usenet go round.



I'll agree with your assessment that the Kerfmaker is unnecessary, The joint
can be cut with a hand held circular saw with no real need for a TS which
will cost much more. I agree with your assessment that the Kerfmaker is
exorbitantly priced, all of Bridge City Tools are, yet I own several of
their tools.

If you actually cut half lap joints on a regular basis or avoid them because
they can be a lot of trouble to reproduce accurately over and over than, I
don't agree that the tool is overrated, it does exactly what it is designed
to do with VERY little effort and chance of error. If would be overrated if
it showed even a hint of not being able to do what it was designed to do,
perfectly. There is no flaw in the design and if the joint does not come
out correctly it is not the fault of the Kerfmaker.

Unless you have actually used one your assumption that it is overrated is
not valid. If you have used one and still feel that it is over rated you
really don't have the skill to do accurate work any way.

Now that is not to say that you are not a skilled woodworker, it is only to
indicate that this tool makes as much sense and works as dependably as an
electric on/off switch on a corded tool. You can stop and start an electric
power tool by simply plugging it in and unplugging the power cord but life
is soooo much easier if you don't have to do that every time you want to use
the tool.

On 11/4/10 10:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a
woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)


You guys have it easy.
Mine snap, crackle, and pop.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

-MIKE- wrote:
On 11/4/10 10:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a
woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)


You guys have it easy.
Mine snap, crackle, and pop.

You can move yours?

--

-Mike-

Is there a motto for this stuff, yet?

"Give us some slack"

or

"For sloppy woodworkers"?

or

"Never blow a joint again"?

or

"When you like it tight"?

or

"No sloppy seconds for me"?

or

never mind...may be kids reading.



"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message
m...
The glue reactivates the DNA so it grows until there is 25 lbs / sq inch of
pressure.

Who woulda thought...

John

In ,
-MIKE- spewed forth:
On 11/4/10 10:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a
woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)


You guys have it easy.
Mine snap, crackle, and pop.

Mine always get a "run" in them, or keep going outg

On Nov 5, 12:06*am, -MIKE- wrote:
On 11/4/10 10:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:

On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a
woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)

You guys have it easy.
Mine snap, crackle, and pop.


There are days when my right knee feels like it has razor blade
fragments in it.
The other morning, I couldn't lower my right arm after I combed my
hair...not without cringeworthy/tear-inducing bolts of blue neon pain.
Then a bit of a crunch and all is well for weeks and weeks. It all
depends on how I slept on it.
I blame the years of gruelling dirt-bike riding...and the fact that
the shoulder and knee are both on the same side, makes me think it
could have been that same tree that totalled my Husqvarna.

On 11/05/10 3:44 PM, Robatoy wrote:
On Nov 5, 12:06 am, wrote:
On 11/4/10 10:08 PM, Steve Turner wrote:

On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a
woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)

You guys have it easy.
Mine snap, crackle, and pop.


There are days when my right knee feels like it has razor blade
fragments in it.
The other morning, I couldn't lower my right arm after I combed my
hair...not without cringeworthy/tear-inducing bolts of blue neon pain.
Then a bit of a crunch and all is well for weeks and weeks. It all
depends on how I slept on it.
I blame the years of gruelling dirt-bike riding...and the fact that
the shoulder and knee are both on the same side, makes me think it
could have been that same tree that totalled my Husqvarna.

I'm getting tired of the noises, only I can hear, when I turn my head.
Coming from the base of my neck, it seems to resonate through the bones,
one of these days when I am driving and check over my right shoulder it
may get interesting.....

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

In article ,
Steve Turner wrote:
On 11/4/2010 10:02 PM, RicodJour wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:44 pm, "Lee Michaels"leemichaels*nadaspam* at comcast
dot net wrote:
It is an old maxim, but it is true. You can tell how good a woodworker is
by the quality of his joints.

Mine creak. At least my knees do.

Mine probably do too, except I can't hear 'em. :-)

WHAT DID YOU SAY?

--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

In article ,
Leon wrote:

"Larry W" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Upscale wrote:


Well of course it really comes down to opinion and individual preference
in this instance. For my own needs and preferences, I stand by my
statement of opinion that the Kerfmaker is an unnecessary, exorbitantly
priced, and overrated tool. I'll stick with the old method, accurate,
tried and true in my experience, and described in the past on the rec,
of cutting any old piece of scrap as a guide. YMMV and your opinion
may be different. That's what makes the world and usenet go round.



I'll agree with your assessment that the Kerfmaker is unnecessary, The joint
can be cut with a hand held circular saw with no real need for a TS which
will cost much more. I agree with your assessment that the Kerfmaker is
exorbitantly priced, all of Bridge City Tools are, yet I own several of
their tools.

If you actually cut half lap joints on a regular basis or avoid them because
they can be a lot of trouble to reproduce accurately over and over than, I
don't agree that the tool is overrated, it does exactly what it is designed
to do with VERY little effort and chance of error. If would be overrated if
it showed even a hint of not being able to do what it was designed to do,
perfectly. There is no flaw in the design and if the joint does not come
out correctly it is not the fault of the Kerfmaker.

Unless you have actually used one your assumption that it is overrated is
not valid. If you have used one and still feel that it is over rated you
really don't have the skill to do accurate work any way.

Now that is not to say that you are not a skilled woodworker, it is only to
indicate that this tool makes as much sense and works as dependably as an
electric on/off switch on a corded tool. You can stop and start an electric
power tool by simply plugging it in and unplugging the power cord but life
is soooo much easier if you don't have to do that every time you want to use
the tool.



I concede your point about the tool not being overrated. I am sure it does
work very well for its intended purpose and I do like the design and
implementation. I still would call it unnecessary, as it takes less than
a minute to cut a piece of stock that will do precisely the same thing.
And that method doesn't anything to be recalibrated if you change blades.


--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org