On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote the following:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

The Corvair was one of the very first unibodies, designed to fold up
in the proper manner, absorbing the impact so it protects the
passengers.


Going after just Ford for the Pinto was a Ralph Nader witch hunt.
Your chances of surviving being rear ended by a truck in a pinto had
to be better than getting rear ended in a smart car. Hell, I think a
murder cycle stands a good chance against a smart car or an Isetta.

You've seen the Smart crash tests on You Tube right?

No, have they done something to defy the laws of physics?

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

--
Live forever or die in the attempt.
-- Joseph Heller, Catch 22

On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:31:54 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote the following:

wrote:
On Fri, 07 May 2010 13:50:50 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote:

wrote:
Jack Stein
wrote:
The problem with the Pinto was pretty serious. There were some
mounting bolts for the gas tank that were placed such that when the
car got rear ended, the bolts would pierce the gas tank, and cause the
Pinto to essentially blow up in a fireball.
Gas tanks rupture and cars blow up routinely in car accidents.


Not like this. Pinto's were known as "gas bombs".

Yes, thats what they were known as. Turns out that about as many people
died in fiery crashes in Pintos as in other popular cars of that time.
You could get dead in a VW or a Corvair simply by a dirty look from a
pickup truck.

They
additionally had a problem with doors that jammed when the car was
rear ended, that made it impossible to get out of the burning car.

Yeah, laws of physics are a bitch.

Like this one: http://www.buzzfeed.com/govtrust/smart-car-sandwich-au

--
Live forever or die in the attempt.
-- Joseph Heller, Catch 22

On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:46:04 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote the following:

J. Clarke wrote:
On 5/7/2010 11:11 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were death
traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Going after just Ford for the Pinto was a Ralph Nader witch hunt.

Uh, Nader made his reputation going after GM for the Corvair, then
flushed it going after the Beetle.

You could be right, my memory is him going after the Pinto. The Corvair
and the Beetle were death traps as well, but I only recall news stories
about him and the Pinto. Some people still think the Corvair was a
"Sturdy thing" It wasn't, and neither were the VW or the Isetta or a
slew of other small cars. People burning up in fiery crashes were
about the same in the Pinto as any other car, but the world was
convinced Pinto's had a corner on the market, and they didn't.

http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html



The real danger was simply physics. Low weight, small vehicle hitting a
higher weight, large vehicle. The small guy loses most every time.

Ayup.

--
Live forever or die in the attempt.
-- Joseph Heller, Catch 22

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

So you would favor legislation that says that any woman raped
while not dressed in accordance with the hijab is at fault and the
man who did it should not be punished for accepting her obvious
invitation?

You do realize that what you're saying is the straight Islamic
party line do you not?

Whooooosh!

Yeah, some people don't catch sarcasm very well, do they?

[Hint to the clueless -- HeyBub's comment did not in any way imply
*he* thinks that women wearing short skirts invite rape]

Some only will see what they want to see.

Or what others WANT them to see. Hence short skirts.

wrote:

Please relocate to one of those countries that you feel is superior
to the United States of America.

And just what make you think I feel any country is superior to the
US of A?

Your own post makes me think that. You clearly think that what those
57 other countries do makes it right, and superior to the way the
United States views the same issue.

I suggest, then, that the fault is not in the way I express facts but in
your apprehension of them.

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

Your own post makes me think that. You clearly think that what those
57 other countries do makes it right, and superior to the way the
United States views the same issue.

No, no, it's 57 *states* of the United States. Haven't you listened
to Obama?

In defense of Obama, there were fifty-seven venues in which the Democratic
Party held primaries.

* The fifty states, of course.
* District of Columbia.
* Guam.
* Puerto Rico.
* U.S. Virgin Islands.
* American Samoa, er...
* Rhodesia, and, er,
* Patagonia

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote the following:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

The Corvair was one of the very first unibodies, designed to fold up
in the proper manner, absorbing the impact so it protects the
passengers.


Going after just Ford for the Pinto was a Ralph Nader witch hunt.
Your chances of surviving being rear ended by a truck in a pinto had
to be better than getting rear ended in a smart car. Hell, I think a
murder cycle stands a good chance against a smart car or an Isetta.

You've seen the Smart crash tests on You Tube right?

No, have they done something to defy the laws of physics?

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

--
Live forever or die in the attempt.
-- Joseph Heller, Catch 22


Can you skate with a scate? I noticed that *Mach* truck too. Musta bin a
fast mutha.

Max (used to ice skate)

If you admit you're crazy you can still fly. Doc Daneeka.

On Sat, 8 May 2010 16:11:01 -0600, "Max"
wrote the following:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

Can you skate with a scate?

Hey, who changed my post? blush


I noticed that *Mach* truck too. Musta bin a
fast mutha.

I saw that, too, for a split second.

--
Live forever or die in the attempt.
-- Joseph Heller, Catch 22

On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

I was not killed, not even injured. Your opinion does not coincide with my
real life experience. Handled well too. In spite of Nader, I could whip it
around corners faster than any other car I ever owned -- safely. Never got
stuck in the snow either. Yes, I'd buy another if they started making them
tomorrow.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck
pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

I was not killed, not even injured. Your opinion does not coincide with
my real life experience. Handled well too. In spite of Nader, I could
whip it around corners faster than any other car I ever owned -- safely.
Never got stuck in the snow either. Yes, I'd buy another if they started
making them tomorrow.




Me too, Ed. I had a neat little '64 coupe. It was a fun car.

Max

On 5/8/2010 10:41 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck
pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

I was not killed, not even injured. Your opinion does not coincide with
my real life experience. Handled well too. In spite of Nader, I could
whip it around corners faster than any other car I ever owned -- safely.
Never got stuck in the snow either. Yes, I'd buy another if they started
making them tomorrow.

Somebody took them racing in Europe. They were beating the works
Porsches. Nadir did not win one single lawsuit but he managed to
convince people that they were deadly anyway. If there was any justice
in the world, Nadir would have gotten drafted and blown up in a tank.

On Sat, 8 May 2010 21:49:26 -0600, "Max"
wrote the following:

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck
pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.

Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

I was not killed, not even injured. Your opinion does not coincide with
my real life experience. Handled well too. In spite of Nader, I could
whip it around corners faster than any other car I ever owned -- safely.
Never got stuck in the snow either. Yes, I'd buy another if they started
making them tomorrow.

Me too, Ed. I had a neat little '64 coupe. It was a fun car.

I don't know that I'd buy another GM product, but I owned and loved
two different '62 Corvair convertibles and even ran the nicest one on
the (mild) motocross track my friends had built. She -flew-, by Crom!

--
The doctor of the future will give no medicine, but will interest her
or his patients in the care of the human frame, in a proper diet, and
in the cause and prevention of disease.
-- Thomas A. Edison

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

And just what make you think I feel any country is superior to the US of A?
Your own post makes me think that. You clearly think that what those
57 other countries do makes it right, and superior to the way the
United States views the same issue.

No, no, it's 57 *states* of the United States. Haven't you listened to Obama?

Yes, but he was not counting Alaska and Hawaii, so that makes 59 states
in Obamaland.

Funny stuff, but not funny enough to make David Letterman every night
for 5 years...

--
Jack
Got Change: God Bless America ====== God Damn Amerika!
http://jbstein.com

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 08 May 2010 11:24:57 -0400, Jack Stein
wrote the following:

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
"Jack Stein" wrote
Corvairs, VW, Isetta's and todays smart cars (and more) are/were
death traps looking for a place to happen.
I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mach truck pulling
a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still had it.
Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

The Corvair was one of the very first unibodies, designed to fold up
in the proper manner, absorbing the impact so it protects the
passengers.

Well that didn't work very well. Nothing much there to "fold up" I
guess it would do OK if a Smart Car ran into it at low speed. Out of
curiosity, it would be interesting to see the death per accident ratio
of the Corvair vs Pinto vs Isetta vs Falcon and so on and so forth.
Just knowing how the basic construction tells me the Pinto did better,
but if so, not by much. They were all death traps. I had a 54 Merc and
a 55 Ford Crown Vic and it was next to impossible to keep the doors from
flying open around a bend... No seat belts either. I remember feeling
somewhat safe because I had the steering wheel to hang onto...

My buddies mother had a brand new, 1962 Corvair and I recall at around
100 mph, with 5 juvenile delinquents in it, the front end would lift off
the ground and he could, and did, turn the front wheels without the car
noticing. Had anything gone awry, I would not be here to harass all you
saw dust jockey's.

You've seen the Smart crash tests on You Tube right?
No, have they done something to defy the laws of physics?

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

Well, I still didn't see them. I thought he was insinuating they were
somehow safe? It does look like they are attempting to make them safer
than they look, but still, laws of physics are hard to overcome:-)

--
Jack
You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
http://jbstein.com

Larry Jaques wrote:
Jack Stein wrote the following:
wrote:

The problem with the Pinto was pretty serious. There were some
mounting bolts for the gas tank that were placed such that when the
car got rear ended, the bolts would pierce the gas tank, and cause the
Pinto to essentially blow up in a fireball.

Gas tanks rupture and cars blow up routinely in car accidents.

Not like this. Pinto's were known as "gas bombs".

Yes, thats what they were known as. Turns out that about as many people
died in fiery crashes in Pintos as in other popular cars of that time.
You could get dead in a VW or a Corvair simply by a dirty look from a
pickup truck.

They
additionally had a problem with doors that jammed when the car was
rear ended, that made it impossible to get out of the burning car.

Yeah, laws of physics are a bitch.

Like this one: http://www.buzzfeed.com/govtrust/smart-car-sandwich-au

I read somewhere this was an SUV when it started out, and that the
driver survived? Who knows? Having worked in a body shop that did 24
hour towing, I've seen all sorts of crazy ****.

--
Jack
Got Change: Now CHANGE IT BACK!
http://jbstein.com

Larry Jaques wrote:
People burning up in fiery crashes were
about the same in the Pinto as any other car, but the world was
convinced Pinto's had a corner on the market, and they didn't.

http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html

Great link there Larry, too much for now but I saved it to peruse later.

As far as cost risk analysis that get a hair up everyones nose, I look
at it like the Saw Stop. I don't want anyone mandating that I get rid
of my saw and buy a Saw Stop, or buy Saw Stop technology because it is
risky not to use it. My saw has been used for 50+ years w/o any major
damage, and no saw stop, no guard even. I can afford a Saw Stop, and I
could have a roll cage installed in my truck, make everyone that enters
my truck wear a NASCAR approved crash helmet, and a fire suit, but, I
choose not too.

--
Jack
I'm not as dumb as you look.
http://jbstein.com

HeyBub wrote:

In defense of Obama, there were fifty-seven venues in which the Democratic
Party held primaries.

* The fifty states, of course.
* District of Columbia.
* Guam.
* Puerto Rico.
* U.S. Virgin Islands.
* American Samoa, er...
* Rhodesia, and, er,
* Patagonia

In defense of truth, Obama said "states" and he thought there were 57
of them (states, not "venues") not including the "states" of Alaska and
Hawaii.

Your defense of Obama is, like Obama, a fraud.
--
Jack
Got Change: Inconvenient Truth ===== Convenient Lies!
http://jbstein.com

Max wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

Can you skate with a scate? I noticed that *Mach* truck too. Musta
bin a fast mutha.

Max (used to ice skate)

If you have nothing to say but spell check, then you will need
permission from Robocop, the official, nothing to say, rec spell cop.

--
Jack
News Flash: Government Motors (GM) fines their top competitor $16 Mil.
http://jbstein.com

In article ,
Jack Stein wrote:
...snipped...
The real danger was simply physics. Low weight, small vehicle hitting a
higher weight, large vehicle. The small guy loses most every time.



True enough if all other things are equal. But often other things are
not equal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMK1WZjP7g

It's a shame what they did to the '59 here but I'd sure rather be in
the '09 in a crash.


--
Often wrong, never in doubt.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

Tim Daneliuk wrote:

Nader was, and is, a nosy little busybody who, unable to do anything useful,
decided to attack the productive segments of society. His attacks on
the Corvair were shameful, dishonest, and unhinged from reality. Yes,
smaller cars are at disadvantage to larger vehicles. But, IIRC, this
was not his beef. He objected to the independent suspension of the
Corvair as I recall, a design idea now seen in virtually all modern
vehicles. This is what happens when people become professional gadflys,
political pundits, politicians, and cause monkeys - they do nothing of
value in their own right, choosing instead to live a life reflecting on
the accomplishments of of others ... kind of like being a Community Organizer.

Or a lawyer, or, a lawyer community organizer!

Barf!

--
Jack
Got Change: God Bless America ====== God Damn Amerika!
http://jbstein.com

"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
Max wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

Can you skate with a scate? I noticed that *Mach* truck too. Musta bin
a fast mutha.

Max (used to ice skate)

If you have nothing to say but spell check, then you will need permission
from Robocop, the official, nothing to say, rec spell cop.

--
Jack
News Flash: Government Motors (GM) fines their top competitor $16 Mil.
http://jbstein.com


Thank you, Jack, for the instructions on the proper etiquette for Usenet.
Please accept my apologies for not realizing that this NG had a moderator.
Is there an e-mail address to which I can submit my comments for approval?

Max

"Max" wrote in message
...
"Jack Stein" wrote in message
...
Max wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

Can you skate with a scate? I noticed that *Mach* truck too. Musta
bin a fast mutha.

Max (used to ice skate)

If you have nothing to say but spell check, then you will need permission
from Robocop, the official, nothing to say, rec spell cop.

--
Jack
News Flash: Government Motors (GM) fines their top competitor $16 Mil.
http://jbstein.com


Thank you, Jack, for the instructions on the proper etiquette for Usenet.
Please accept my apologies for not realizing that this NG had a moderator.
Is there an e-mail address to which I can submit my comments for approval?

The proper protocol for dealing with Jack Stain is to killfile him.

"Lee Michaels" wrote

"Max" wrote:

Thank you, Jack, for the instructions on the proper etiquette for Usenet.
Please accept my apologies for not realizing that this NG had a
moderator.
Is there an e-mail address to which I can submit my comments for
approval?

The proper protocol for dealing with Jack Stain is to killfile him.

I read that rather hastily and missed the "file".
Hmmm. Freudian?

Max

On May 9, 12:24*pm, Jack Stein wrote:
Max wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.
Can you skate with a scate? *I noticed that *Mach* truck too. * Musta
bin a fast mutha.
Max (used to ice skate)

If you have nothing to say but spell check, then you will need
permission from Robocop, the official, nothing to say, rec spell cop.



Name ONE incident where I corrected anybody's spelling.
If you can't find it, STFU.

On 2010-05-08 22:41:27 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" said:

I was not killed, not even injured. Your opinion does not coincide
with my real life experience. Handled well too. In spite of Nader, I
could whip it around corners faster than any other car I ever owned --
safely. Never got stuck in the snow either. Yes, I'd buy another if
they started making them tomorrow.


By the time Nader's book was published, the Corvair's rear suspension
had been re-engineered to what it SHOULD have been to begin. That was a
fun car to scoot though corners.

Nader's always been a spoiler, not a crusader.

On 2010-05-09 06:40:36 -0400, "J. Clarke" said:

Nadir did not win one single lawsuit but he managed to convince people
that they were deadly anyway.

Enjoyed your misspelling -- it may be more accurate than intended!

On 5/9/2010 9:21 PM, Steve wrote:
On 2010-05-09 06:40:36 -0400, "J. Clarke" said:

Nadir did not win one single lawsuit but he managed to convince people
that they were deadly anyway.

Enjoyed your misspelling -- it may be more accurate than intended!

Oh, I assure you that it was intended. He'll always be a low point to me.

"Larry Jaques" wrote
Me too, Ed. I had a neat little '64 coupe. It was a fun car.

I don't know that I'd buy another GM product, but I owned and loved
two different '62 Corvair convertibles and even ran the nicest one on
the (mild) motocross track my friends had built. She -flew-, by Crom!

I had a Monza coupe with wide tires and a block that shortened the throw in
the shift linkage. Only thing I'd want different today is AC. The bucket
seat was comfortable on long rides too. Of course, my butt was narrower
back then too.

I'm far less happy with GM cars today though. The one in my driveway that
is falling apart is the last.

"Jack Stein" wrote

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I got T-boned on the driver's door in my Corvair by a Mack truck
pulling a flatbed. I needed a Band-Aid. Sturdy thing; with I still
had it.
Sturdy my ass. The Corvair was a death trap, just like the Pinto and
about every other small car of it's day.

The Corvair was one of the very first unibodies, designed to fold up
in the proper manner, absorbing the impact so it protects the
passengers.

Well that didn't work very well. Nothing much there to "fold up" I guess
it would do OK if a Smart Car ran into it at low speed. Out of curiosity,
it would be interesting to see the death per accident ratio of the Corvair
vs Pinto vs Isetta vs Falcon and so on and so forth.

It would be. As for metal to fold up, it did just that and protected me
against a truck and trailer that was in the 40,000 pound range. The roof
was folded up to a point in the center and door that was hit by the truck's
bumper was pushed in and it moved me over and I avoided serious injury.


You've seen the Smart crash tests on You Tube right?
No, have they done something to defy the laws of physics?

No, they prove how dangerous the little roller scates are.

Well, I still didn't see them. I thought he was insinuating they were
somehow safe? It does look like they are attempting to make them safer
than they look, but still, laws of physics are hard to overcome:-)

The car itself gets a lot of damage, but the passengers (test dummies) fare
rather well, actually. While you cannot change the laws of physics, good
engineering does help you work with it to diffuse and move energy.

Jack Stein wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

In defense of Obama, there were fifty-seven venues in which the
Democratic Party held primaries.

* The fifty states, of course.
* District of Columbia.
* Guam.
* Puerto Rico.
* U.S. Virgin Islands.
* American Samoa, er...
* Rhodesia, and, er,
* Patagonia

In defense of truth, Obama said "states" and he thought there were 57
of them (states, not "venues") not including the "states" of Alaska and
Hawaii.

Your defense of Obama is, like Obama, a fraud.

Just to throw gasoline on the fire here, there may not be 57 states in the
USA, but there are 57 states in the Organization of Islamic Conferences
(OIC): http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/islamic-states.html. Freudian
slip?



--

There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage

Rob Leatham

On Sat, 08 May 2010 23:34:26 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
wrote:

Nader was, and is, a nosy little busybody who, unable to do anything useful,
decided to attack the productive segments of society.

vehicles. This is what happens when people become professional gadflys,
political pundits, politicians, and cause monkeys - they do nothing of
value in their own right, choosing instead to live a life reflecting on
the accomplishments of of others ... kind of like being a Community Organizer.

Well, what do you know. THAT'S YOU!!! You've described yourself to a
virtual T. You contribute nothing to this newsgroup, you've never
contributed *any* woodworking content to this newsgroup and you're
void of any future potential of doing so.

Same as all the political discussions you inflame here. You don't vote
for any party and haven't for some time, yet you consider yourself a
professional pundit on the topic.

You do nothing of any value in your own right and attempt to live what
little life you have vicariously through others who do make a
contribution.

On Sun, 2 May 2010 16:20:13 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

The silence if deafening from the "Drill Baby Drill" crowd.

At least there is one small bright spot in this man made tragedy.

Lew


You think so? Check out what the fool in the White House did.

He finally did something for the U.S. instead of TO the U.S.

Gordon Shumway

Our Constitution needs to be used less as a shield
for the guilty and more as a sword for the victim.

Mark & Juanita wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

In defense of Obama, there were fifty-seven venues in which the
Democratic Party held primaries.
* The fifty states, of course.
* District of Columbia.
* Guam.
* Puerto Rico.
* U.S. Virgin Islands.
* American Samoa, er...
* Rhodesia, and, er,
* Patagonia
In defense of truth, Obama said "states" and he thought there were 57
of them (states, not "venues") not including the "states" of Alaska and
Hawaii.

Your defense of Obama is, like Obama, a fraud.

Just to throw gasoline on the fire here, there may not be 57 states in the
USA, but there are 57 states in the Organization of Islamic Conferences
(OIC): http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/islamic-states.html. Freudian
slip?

Only if you don't count Alaska and Hawaii...

--
Jack
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity!
http://jbstein.com

Robatoy wrote:

If you have nothing to say but spell check, then you will need
permission from Robocop, the official, nothing to say, rec spell cop.

Name ONE incident where I corrected anybody's spelling.
If you can't find it, STFU.

Yikes! A Robocop denier... What a stroke of luck!
--
Jack
Got Change: Inconvenient Truth ===== Convenient Lies!
http://jbstein.com

On May 12, 9:02*am, Jack Stein wrote:
Robatoy wrote:
If you have nothing to say but spell check, then you will need
permission from Robocop, the official, nothing to say, rec spell cop.
Name ONE incident where I corrected anybody's spelling.
If you can't find it, STFU.

Yikes! A Robocop denier... *What a stroke of luck!

The denier was a French coin created by Charlemagne in the Early
Middle Ages. It was introduced together with an accounting system in
which twelve deniers equaled one sou and twenty sous equalled one
livre. This system and the denier itself served as the model for many
of Europe's currencies, including the British pound, Italian lira,
Spanish dinero and the Portuguese dinheiro.

But so far, nobody has minted a coin in my favour.

On 5/12/2010 11:45 AM, Robatoy wrote:

But so far, nobody has minted a coin in my favour.

IIRC, Canada mints a "Loonie". )

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"Robatoy" wrote

But so far, nobody has minted a coin in my favour.
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Well, fire up that CNC maschine!!

Whacha waiting for?

On 5/12/2010 1:17 PM, Morris Dovey wrote:
On 5/12/2010 11:45 AM, Robatoy wrote:

But so far, nobody has minted a coin in my favour.

IIRC, Canada mints a "Loonie". )

And a "Two-nie" to go with it.

Morris Dovey wrote:
On 5/12/2010 11:45 AM, Robatoy wrote:

But so far, nobody has minted a coin in my favour.

IIRC, Canada mints a "Loonie". )

+1

The denier is also a measurement of the density of a fiber or thread. A
thread of length 9000 meters (about 5.6 miles) that weighs 1 gram
is a one denier thread. This definition, believe it or not, fits the actual
characteristics of a single strand of silk.

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