On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:47:13 -0400, "Bill"
wrote:


"RonB" wrote in message
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On Aug 17, 9:53 am, Jack Stein wrote:
dpb wrote:
Steve Turner wrote:
dpb wrote:
Steve Turner wrote:
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else mentioned, I doubt the freight company would send a truck
without at least leaving themselves a way to get the containers off
the truck.

That's a naive assumption at best unless they were notified a priori.
...

Jack asked what my experience was and I told him. The End.

I didn't say it wasn't your experience; I simply reiterated the point
The Griz made to Jack that it's his responsibility and to assume his
experience will be yours w/o verifying isn't 100% guaranteed...

One can hope trucking companies would do what seems obvious; my
experience has not been nearly as salubrious as yours apparently has
been[1] and that is highly dependent on the company.

Finis.... (And, again, I wasn't after you...)

[1] I've even had the experience of specifically ordering and being
billed for lift gate service and the over-the-road truck showed up w/
Bubba's larger (and less bright and more belligerent) brother as the
driver...fortunately, I did have the frontend loader on the tractor at
the time and it was something I could handle with it instead of
requiring a forklift. Given _my_ range of experiences, I'm probably
excessively cautious any more...

I appreciate all the responses on this. I'd guess the type of service
you get would be different in different locales, and would also guess
Grizzly is pretty good at getting things right for you, being a retail
business dependent on retail on-line and mail orders rather than in
store sales. If I go this route, I'll make certain delivery
arrangements are somehow made clear ahead of time. Never dealt with
Grizzly before so it would be a new experience for me, but certainly not
for Griz.
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Jack
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I don't know where you live but the delivery of my 1023S cabinet saw
was very fast. I placed the internet order one evening and about 36
hours later I got a call from the local truck depot wanting to arrange
pickup. At that time we lived in Wichita, Ks which is about 250 miles
from the Springfield store.

Ron

That's the same TS I was thinking about ordering! I may make an overnight
trip to one of their showrooms (MS, I think).

MO, perhaps? (MO, PA, and WA, IIRC)

On Aug 17, 2:47*pm, "Bill" wrote:
"RonB" wrote in message

...
On Aug 17, 9:53 am, Jack Stein wrote:



dpb wrote:
Steve Turner wrote:
dpb wrote:
Steve Turner wrote:
...
else mentioned, I doubt the freight company would send a truck
without at least leaving themselves a way to get the containers off
the truck.

That's a naive assumption at best unless they were notified a priori.
...

Jack asked what my experience was and I told him. The End.

I didn't say it wasn't your experience; I simply reiterated the point
The Griz made to Jack that it's his responsibility and to assume his
experience will be yours w/o verifying isn't 100% guaranteed...

One can hope trucking companies would do what seems obvious; my
experience has not been nearly as salubrious as yours apparently has
been[1] and that is highly dependent on the company.

Finis.... (And, again, I wasn't after you...)

[1] I've even had the experience of specifically ordering and being
billed for lift gate service and the over-the-road truck showed up w/
Bubba's larger (and less bright and more belligerent) brother as the
driver...fortunately, I did have the frontend loader on the tractor at
the time and it was something I could handle with it instead of
requiring a forklift. Given _my_ range of experiences, I'm probably
excessively cautious any more...

I appreciate all the responses on this. I'd guess the type of service
you get would be different in different locales, and would also guess
Grizzly is pretty good at getting things right for you, being a retail
business dependent on retail on-line and mail orders rather than in
store sales. If I go this route, I'll make certain delivery
arrangements are somehow made clear ahead of time. Never dealt with
Grizzly before so it would be a new experience for me, but certainly not
for Griz.
--
Jack
Using FREE News Server:http://www.eternal-september.org/http://jbstein.com

I don't know where you live but the delivery of my 1023S cabinet saw
was very fast. *I placed the internet order one evening and about 36
hours later I got a call from the local truck depot wanting to arrange
pickup. *At that time we lived in Wichita, Ks which is about 250 miles
from the Springfield store.

Ron

That's the same TS I was thinking about ordering! * I may make an overnight
trip to one of their showrooms (MS, I think).

Bill

The Springfield, Mo store is the ultimate trip to the big-boys candy
store.

Ron

Bill wrote:

I was thinking about ordering from Grizzly and I don't have any special
loading equiptment (I would just need my order dropped off at my
garage/workshop which has a short, straight, concrete driveway), so I hope
you will share the results of your delivery experience.

Don't wait for me Bill. I've been thinking about buying a planer for
many, many years, and while I can afford one, I'm not sure I have enough
woodworking hours left in me to go to the trouble. I tend to get ants
in my pants to buy, then, under more calm conditions, I look at it more
logically. If I were to buy one, I probably would take Steve's opinion
of the Griz seriously, as he owns one, and I would simply make sure
whomever was responsible for delivery, came with a lift gate to get the
thing on my driveway.
--
Jack
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http://jbstein.com

RonB wrote:

I don't know where you live but the delivery of my 1023S cabinet saw
was very fast. I placed the internet order one evening and about 36
hours later I got a call from the local truck depot wanting to arrange
pickup. At that time we lived in Wichita, Ks which is about 250 miles
from the Springfield store.

I live in Pittsburgh PA and I'm sure there is lots of delivery options.
Speed however is a non-issue, I've been thinking of buying a planer
since 1976.... 33 years:-)

--
Jack
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http://jbstein.com

Jack Stein wrote:
Bill wrote:

I was thinking about ordering from Grizzly and I don't have any
special loading equiptment (I would just need my order dropped off at
my garage/workshop which has a short, straight, concrete driveway), so
I hope you will share the results of your delivery experience.

Don't wait for me Bill. I've been thinking about buying a planer for
many, many years, and while I can afford one, I'm not sure I have enough
woodworking hours left in me to go to the trouble. I tend to get ants
in my pants to buy, then, under more calm conditions, I look at it more
logically.

I do the same thing. I can talk myself out of almost any purchase now
matter how badly I think I want it. :-)

If I were to buy one, I probably would take Steve's opinion
of the Griz seriously, as he owns one, and I would simply make sure
whomever was responsible for delivery, came with a lift gate to get the
thing on my driveway.

As I mentioned before, in the case of the planer the SAIA driver did all
the work to get the crate onto the lift and down onto the driveway, then
using his small mechanical forklift we both pushed it up into my garage
where he let it down in the location of my choosing; very convenient,
and I tipped him accordingly. Just don't assume you'll get the same
level of service.

Obviously this planer is a heavy beast (the manual doesn't give a weight
for the machine itself, but the shipping weight is 675 lbs!), so you'd
think that getting it off the pallet and onto the slab might be a
problem, but I was able to do it myself without much fuss.
Unfortunately, I don't really remember HOW I did it (heh), but it helps
that the integrated mobile base is already partially installed, and I
think I may have installed the swiveling caster first as a means of
lifting and guiding the machine off the pallet. Once onto the slab, the
mobile base works very well and moving the machine around is a snap.

Be prepared to spend a good three or four hours setting this thing up
before you expect to plane any wood. It will be *covered* with
cosmoline (shipping grease), and you'll need a lot of rags and mineral
spirits to get it off. The cutter assembly is coated with it too, and
you pretty much have to remove the top access covers and the chip
deflector panel to gain decent access to it. If you don't clean this
goop off the cutter head (or anywhere else in the general vicinity) it
will be a magnet for accumulating dust.

Installing the cast iron infeed and outfeed tables was a bit tricky.
There are three mounting bolts, but only two alignment setscrews (near
each of the outer mounting bolts). After aligning the table with the
outer setscrews and tightening the outer mounting bolts, I found that
tightening the center mounting bolt would stress and twist the table,
throwing the alignment out of whack. This is due to the gap caused by
the lack of a center setscrew, and I had to put shims (washers,
actually) up into the gap before I could tighten the center bolt and not
cause misalignment.

The manuals give conflicting information about whether the gearbox has
been filled with oil; in my case no oil was needed. You are also
advised to check all the adjustment procedures, but I found the machine
to be correctly adjusted straight off the crate.

It cuts too! It does a very nice job, it does. Be sure to wear ear
protection though; it's quite noisy, especially if you're using a dust
collector (which is *really* a necessity with a planer of this caliber).
Over all, I'm very pleased, and I think Grizzly is a fine company to
work with.

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than you'd be if you were happy and your wife was unhappy." - Red Green
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On Tuesday, August 11, 2009 at 7:25:21 AM UTC+5:30, Joe Bleau wrote:
I have been thinking about replacing my portable 12" planer. Reading
reviews of the Dewalt 735. One reviewer claims he liked everything
but the blades which he claims are so thin that they dull almost
immediately. Anyone here had similar experience. Lowes has them now
for $599 vs. $649 everywhere else on the web.

Hi Bleu,

How are you doing Hey i share my experience with you friend.I was in same stage like you but on of my friend suggest me to buy online planer blades at https://www.woodfordtooling.com/ & it work really good and it was exactly feet in my machine and steel it's working v.good i highly recomodet to you for buy Dewalt planer blade from woodford tooling they sale long lasting wood machine tool.