This is embarasing... but maybe my life can serve as a warning for
others...

I finally convinced the wife that a planer would be a good thing, and that
it would dramatically increase my ability to do fine woodworking (blah,
blah... I just wanted a planer). She finally caved. So off to the big box
store I went, and returned home with a brand new Dewalt 735 Planer. Man I
love this thing. I lovingly crafted a base for it to sit on, so I could
wheel it around the garage when I needed it. Then finally the moment of
truth. To actually plane a board.

I grabed a peice of 4/4 cherry that I had left over from another project ran
it through the jointer to flatten one side. Then switched on the planer.
What a sound. My wife hear a new machine being turned on came out to see.
I put the board in and proceed to spray chips out the garage door and into
the street. That chip ejection system is powerfull! Now to me this is
sheer beauty. No mess in the garage. But to the wife this is the reason
our neighbours keep moving! Chips after all belong in the garbage.

Now remember I just bought a planer, so a proper dust collection system is
completly out of the question for the time being and why should I pay for an
$80 Dewalt chip system, when the dust collector is in the furture? Here is
why.

So off to the store she goes, and returns shortly with 4' of 4" dryer hose.
Seems reasonable... or so I thought. (I was still happy about the new tool
purchase). I conect it to the back. Drop the other end into the garbage
and put a board to wedge it in, and go back over to get my trusty 4/4 cherry
board. My wife standing by the garbage can to watch the chips pile up nicly
inside. Turn the thing on, and load the board... and all hell brakes
loose. The hose pops out of the garbage, and starts flying around the
garage, spreading chips over ever square inch of the shop.

No this would be good enough if it ended there. But as we know when you
have air and chips running through a hose you get: an electrical charge.
The wife seeing the hos eflying around the garage, making much more of a
mess than I would normally make on my own, decides to grab it and point it
into the can. Zap, zap, zap. Man did she look shocked! (ha ha). The best
part is she hold onto it to keep it pointed into the garbage can. The chips
by the way did not intend to stay in the garbage can, and were just blown
out by the mega fan on the planer.

So yes. Before the start of the next project I am *required* to go ge an
appropriate dust collection system. Life is great all because of a simple
planer, some chips, and some static electricity.

"Buster" wrote in message
So yes. Before the start of the next project I am *required* to go ge an
appropriate dust collection system. Life is great all because of a simple
planer, some chips, and some static electricity.

No video? You could sell enough copies to cover the cost of the DC.

I'd buy it.

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:17:31 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


"Buster" wrote in message
So yes. Before the start of the next project I am *required* to go ge an
appropriate dust collection system. Life is great all because of a simple
planer, some chips, and some static electricity.

No video? You could sell enough copies to cover the cost of the DC.

Look out Norm. There's a new kid on the block.

"Buster" wrote in
news:cF5_e.267233$Hk.221793@pd7tw1no:

Dewalt 735 Planer.

Me too.

I lovingly crafted a base for it to sit on, so I could wheel
it around the garage when I needed it.

Me too.

Turn the thing on, and load
the board... and all hell brakes loose. The hose pops out of the
garbage, and starts flying around the garage, spreading chips over
ever square inch of the shop.

Been there, done that...
Also had it happen when the hose pops off the DC pipe.

pointed into the garbage can. The chips by the way did not intend to
stay in the garbage can, and were just blown out by the mega fan on
the planer.

I just upgraded to a Delat 50-850. That lil' fan on the DW735 has enough
ooooomph to inflate the 30 micron bags on the DC.

Enjoy your new DC.

Buster wrote:
This is embarasing... but maybe my life can serve as a warning for
others...

I finally convinced the wife that a planer would be a good thing, and that
it would dramatically increase my ability to do fine woodworking (blah,
blah... I just wanted a planer). She finally caved. So off to the big box
store I went, and returned home with a brand new Dewalt 735 Planer. Man I
love this thing. I lovingly crafted a base for it to sit on, so I could
wheel it around the garage when I needed it. Then finally the moment of
truth. To actually plane a board.

I grabed a peice of 4/4 cherry that I had left over from another project ran
it through the jointer to flatten one side. Then switched on the planer.
What a sound. My wife hear a new machine being turned on came out to see.
I put the board in and proceed to spray chips out the garage door and into
the street. That chip ejection system is powerfull! Now to me this is
sheer beauty. No mess in the garage. But to the wife this is the reason
our neighbours keep moving! Chips after all belong in the garbage.

Now remember I just bought a planer, so a proper dust collection system is
completly out of the question for the time being and why should I pay for an
$80 Dewalt chip system, when the dust collector is in the furture? Here is
why.

So off to the store she goes, and returns shortly with 4' of 4" dryer hose.
Seems reasonable... or so I thought. (I was still happy about the new tool
purchase). I conect it to the back. Drop the other end into the garbage
and put a board to wedge it in, and go back over to get my trusty 4/4 cherry
board. My wife standing by the garbage can to watch the chips pile up nicly
inside. Turn the thing on, and load the board... and all hell brakes
loose. The hose pops out of the garbage, and starts flying around the
garage, spreading chips over ever square inch of the shop.

No this would be good enough if it ended there. But as we know when you
have air and chips running through a hose you get: an electrical charge.
The wife seeing the hos eflying around the garage, making much more of a
mess than I would normally make on my own, decides to grab it and point it
into the can. Zap, zap, zap. Man did she look shocked! (ha ha). The best
part is she hold onto it to keep it pointed into the garbage can. The chips
by the way did not intend to stay in the garbage can, and were just blown
out by the mega fan on the planer.

So yes. Before the start of the next project I am *required* to go ge an
appropriate dust collection system. Life is great all because of a simple
planer, some chips, and some static electricity.

Well, you'll love having a DC.

Also, show the wife what lovely mulch a planer can provide for her
flowers.

I mulch all my beds with planer shavings. Keeps plants warm in winter,
too.

On Tue 27 Sep 2005 11:33:28a, "Gus" wrote in
oups.com:


Also, show the wife what lovely mulch a planer can provide for her
flowers.

I mulch all my beds with planer shavings. Keeps plants warm in winter,
too.


Hey, hold on a minnit there. I thought one had to be pretty careful about
which wood chips you were putting on the plants cause some trees, like
Walnut, were Bad Things to put on your soil. Do you worry about that?

Dan

I would have loved to see that!

My experience was a little better, methinks. The first time I used it,
I shot shavings all the way out to the street, and had to take the shop
vac down there to clean it all up. Maple, Bolivian rosewood, and
purpleheart were among the woods I planed that day. The shavings were
quite colorful!

Ever since, whenever I use the planer, I attached the hose of my shop
vac to its output port and turn that on before I turn on the planer. It
actually works pretty well. But it's a pretty big & powerful shop vac.
I think the DW735 might blow the top off of a small one!

I bought a cheap stand from Lowe's for it, but that didn't work too
well. A couple of months ago Woodcraft had the stand sold by DeWalt for
the DW735 on sale for $100, so I bought it. It came with wheels too.
Last Saturday I took that cheapie stand apart & threw it in the trash.
A $30 lesson in how not to do it.

Enjoy the '735! It's a great piece of machinery!

--Steve

Dan wrote:

Hey, hold on a minnit there. I thought one had to be pretty careful about
which wood chips you were putting on the plants cause some trees, like
Walnut, were Bad Things to put on your soil. Do you worry about that?

Dan

Yep.

"Black walnut and allelopathy

Though grown primarily for its wood and nuts, black walnuts are often
found growing on landscape sites where they serve primarily as shade
trees. When certain other landscape plants are planted near or under
this shade tree they tend to yellow, wilt, and die. This decline occurs
because the walnut tree produces a non-toxic, colorless, chemical called
hydrojuglone. Hydrojuglone is found in leaves, stems, fruit hulls, inner
bark and roots. When exposed to air or soil compounds, hydrojuglone is
oxidized into the allelochemical juglone, which is highly toxic.

Several related trees such as English walnut, hickories and pecan also
produce juglone, but in smaller amounts compared to black walnut.
Juglone is one of many plant-produced chemicals that can harm other
plants in a process known as allelopathy. (Additional common landscape
trees with allelopathic properties: sugar maple, tree-of-heaven,
hackberries, southern waxmyrtle, American sycamore, cottonwood, black
cherry, red oak, black locust, sassafrass, and American elm.)"

and

"Reducing allelopathic effects

* Regularly clean up all fallen leaves and fruit from the black walnut
tree, keeping debris away from desired landscape plants.

* Compost plant debris to degrade any toxins present in the compost
pile, and to detoxify the compost. If composting is impractical, do not
use any part of the walnut tree as compost or mulch for other plants. "

See:

http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/nursery/430-021/430-021.html

--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

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On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 19:48:17 -0400, "no(SPAM)vasys"
wrote:

Dan wrote:

Hey, hold on a minnit there. I thought one had to be pretty careful about
which wood chips you were putting on the plants cause some trees, like
Walnut, were Bad Things to put on your soil. Do you worry about that?

Dan

Yep.

"Black walnut and allelopathy

Though grown primarily for its wood and nuts, black walnuts are often
found growing on landscape sites where they serve primarily as shade
trees. When certain other landscape plants are planted near or under
this shade tree they tend to yellow, wilt, and die. This decline occurs
because the walnut tree produces a non-toxic, colorless, chemical called
hydrojuglone. Hydrojuglone is found in leaves, stems, fruit hulls, inner
bark and roots. When exposed to air or soil compounds, hydrojuglone is
oxidized into the allelochemical juglone, which is highly toxic.

Several related trees such as English walnut, hickories and pecan also
produce juglone, but in smaller amounts compared to black walnut.
Juglone is one of many plant-produced chemicals that can harm other
plants in a process known as allelopathy. (Additional common landscape
trees with allelopathic properties: sugar maple, tree-of-heaven,
hackberries, southern waxmyrtle, American sycamore, cottonwood, black
cherry, red oak, black locust, sassafrass, and American elm.)"

and

"Reducing allelopathic effects

* Regularly clean up all fallen leaves and fruit from the black walnut
tree, keeping debris away from desired landscape plants.

* Compost plant debris to degrade any toxins present in the compost
pile, and to detoxify the compost. If composting is impractical, do not
use any part of the walnut tree as compost or mulch for other plants. "

See:

http://www.ext.vt.edu/pubs/nursery/430-021/430-021.html

Interestingly my sister has a black walnut on her property that has a
maple tree growing out of a small hole in the crotch of the tree.
Granted the maple has been growing there for at least 3 or 4 years and
is still about the size of (or maybe smaller than) a 1 year old
sapling, but it grew naturally from a seed that fell into a rotted
spot on the walnut tree, and the walnut has yet to be able to kill the
maple.

Dave Hall

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
sapling, but it grew naturally from a seed that fell into a rotted
spot on the walnut tree, and the walnut has yet to be able to kill the
maple.

Sounds like nature and it's indomitable spirit to survive.

Steve wrote:

I would have loved to see that!

My experience was a little better, methinks. The first time I used it,
I shot shavings all the way out to the street, and had to take the shop
vac down there to clean it all up. Maple, Bolivian rosewood, and
purpleheart were among the woods I planed that day. The shavings were
quite colorful!

Why not just lean a sheet of ply behind it or make a baffle -some sort
of a box on the back end that directs the shavings into a corner or a
bin of some sort?

I don't think you appreciate the force with which the DW735 ejects chips
out of that chute. The street is about 35 feet from where the planer
was standing, and some of the chips got there on the fly. Read the OP's
description of what happened when he tried to wedge the 4" dryer hose in
a trash barrel. I think that trying to use a sheet of plywood as a
deflector would have a similar effect.

--Steve

Weatherlawyer wrote:


Why not just lean a sheet of ply behind it or make a baffle -some sort
of a box on the back end that directs the shavings into a corner or a
bin of some sort?

Oddly that what I settled for with the first little project. I've got piles
of chips all ove rthe garage. The idea was I could deflect the chips into
the corner of the garage, but essentially it went off the board, off the
wall and ended up everywhere. The chip ejection fan is very powerful, the
Dewalt system would probably work well...


Steve wrote in message ...
I don't think you appreciate the force with which the DW735 ejects chips
out of that chute. The street is about 35 feet from where the planer was
standing, and some of the chips got there on the fly. Read the OP's
description of what happened when he tried to wedge the 4" dryer hose in a
trash barrel. I think that trying to use a sheet of plywood as a deflector
would have a similar effect.

--Steve

Weatherlawyer wrote:


Why not just lean a sheet of ply behind it or make a baffle -some sort
of a box on the back end that directs the shavings into a corner or a
bin of some sort?