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Link belts stretching?
I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've
noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? |
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Link belts stretching?
why don't you bend down by your saw and take a look at the belt??
dave John Graser wrote: I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? |
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John Graser asks:
I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? That stretchiness is what makes them so smooth. I''d pull a link or 2 to see if that helps, if you've checked your blade for suitability and sharpness. Charlie Self "Health food makes me sick." Calvin Trillin http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/m.../business.html |
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John Graser wrote...
Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? They do stretch for the first few hours of use. BTW, so do regular v- belts, at least the good ones. After twenty to twenty-five hours of use under load, they should be re-tensioned (and possibly have a link removed). At hobby-duty levels it can take awhile to put 25 hours on a machine. Jim |
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Bay Area Dave wrote...
why don't you bend down by your saw and take a look at the belt?? Dave, you missed the point. Jim |
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Link belts stretching?
Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand
this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Link belts stretching?
VS. belts hold shape when not used often enough or the belt is cold. Hence,
vibration in the blade\machine. A Link-Belt ends that vibration. "TeamCasa" wrote in message ... Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Link belts stretching?
Auto spell changed my "V" to a "VS"
"Bill" wrote in message ... VS. belts hold shape when not used often enough or the belt is cold. Hence, vibration in the blade\machine. A Link-Belt ends that vibration. "TeamCasa" wrote in message ... Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Link belts stretching?
You are correct, I have the bad habit of thinking everyone live here in
So.Cal. Would not just running your machine for a few minutes to warm-up the belt serve the same purpose? Dave "Bill" wrote in message ... VS. belts hold shape when not used often enough or the belt is cold. Hence, vibration in the blade\machine. A Link-Belt ends that vibration. "TeamCasa" wrote in message ... Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Link belts stretching?
good point. My Powermatic band saw uses a serpentine style belt like
cars made in the past decade and a half. Beats a link belt or a V-belt! Quiet, smooth power transfer and doesn't stretch as much as V or link. dave TeamCasa wrote: Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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I can run may table saw 20 minutes before the belt even starts to warm up.
True, it does lessen after a few minutes. It's still very convenient to be able to start and cut. "TeamCasa" wrote in message ... You are correct, I have the bad habit of thinking everyone live here in So.Cal. Would not just running your machine for a few minutes to warm-up the belt serve the same purpose? Dave "Bill" wrote in message ... VS. belts hold shape when not used often enough or the belt is cold. Hence, vibration in the blade\machine. A Link-Belt ends that vibration. "TeamCasa" wrote in message ... Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Link belts stretching?
Send me your Powermatic, I'll send you my Craftsman.
"Bay Area Dave" wrote in message . com... good point. My Powermatic band saw uses a serpentine style belt like cars made in the past decade and a half. Beats a link belt or a V-belt! Quiet, smooth power transfer and doesn't stretch as much as V or link. dave TeamCasa wrote: Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Link belts stretching?
Well, thank you Dave! I thought it was just me, but I took a serpentine belt
off my saw to put a link belt on. Had to, obviously, change pulleys too. I think it, the link belt, made the saw run louder and rougher. I'm going to pull it off tomorrow and put my old belt back on. -- "Cartoons don't have any deep meaning. They're just stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh." Homer Simpson Jerry© The Phoneman® "Bay Area Dave" wrote in message . com... good point. My Powermatic band saw uses a serpentine style belt like cars made in the past decade and a half. Beats a link belt or a V-belt! Quiet, smooth power transfer and doesn't stretch as much as V or link. dave TeamCasa wrote: Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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TeamCasa wrote:
Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy Try it and find out. Life expectancy isn't really a critical issue when it's so easy to put a new one on, and they really *do* dampen vibration significantly. Most of my tools have direct drive universal motors still, but one exception to the rule is my horizontal bandsaw. It used to have so much vibration that the belt cover would flop around like a fish out of water. After installing a link belt, it barely flutters. It didn't eliminate all of the vibration, but it definitely made a marked difference. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ |
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Michael, If your belt flaps, fix that!
I don't really want to start a circular debate on this. If you and others are happy - that's fine with me. I'll stick with quality parts. Dave "Silvan" wrote in message ... TeamCasa wrote: Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy Try it and find out. Life expectancy isn't really a critical issue when it's so easy to put a new one on, and they really *do* dampen vibration significantly. Most of my tools have direct drive universal motors still, but one exception to the rule is my horizontal bandsaw. It used to have so much vibration that the belt cover would flop around like a fish out of water. After installing a link belt, it barely flutters. It didn't eliminate all of the vibration, but it definitely made a marked difference. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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can I get back to you on that, Bill??
Hey, I picked up some Craftsman chisels and they seem fine. Took forever to get the backs flat and shiny but they seem to hold an edge much better than the Marples I had purchased at HD last month (and returned). dave Bill wrote: Send me your Powermatic, I'll send you my Craftsman. "Bay Area Dave" wrote in message . com... good point. My Powermatic band saw uses a serpentine style belt like cars made in the past decade and a half. Beats a link belt or a V-belt! Quiet, smooth power transfer and doesn't stretch as much as V or link. dave TeamCasa wrote: Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Jerry, my serp belt-run band saw is incredibly smooth running. I wish
that Powermatic had outfitted the 54a planer with the same style belt. dave Jerry Gilreath wrote: Well, thank you Dave! I thought it was just me, but I took a serpentine belt off my saw to put a link belt on. Had to, obviously, change pulleys too. I think it, the link belt, made the saw run louder and rougher. I'm going to pull it off tomorrow and put my old belt back on. |
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My only complaint about the craftsman is a weak splitter\guard. It was
bought for me last year so I can't complain much. It cuts wood. So it does it's job. "Bay Area Dave" wrote in message m... can I get back to you on that, Bill?? Hey, I picked up some Craftsman chisels and they seem fine. Took forever to get the backs flat and shiny but they seem to hold an edge much better than the Marples I had purchased at HD last month (and returned). dave Bill wrote: Send me your Powermatic, I'll send you my Craftsman. "Bay Area Dave" wrote in message . com... good point. My Powermatic band saw uses a serpentine style belt like cars made in the past decade and a half. Beats a link belt or a V-belt! Quiet, smooth power transfer and doesn't stretch as much as V or link. dave TeamCasa wrote: Why don't you just put on a good quality V-belt. I don't quite understand this fascination of using an product that was originally designed to be used as an emergency fan belt with limited life expectancy to operate machinery. As an aside, quality belts do not stretch measurably. Sorry John. If the automotive and most other serious machine industries can rely on them I think the would be the best choice for your contrator saw. Dave "John Graser" wrote in message news:0hrZb.24013$4o.42531@attbi_s52... I put a link belt on my Delta Contractor's saw about a year ago. I've noticed that the saw now tends to bog down more easily when cutting thick stock than it used to. Do link belts stretch over time, requiring the removal of some links periodically? ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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having spent 40 some odd years busting my knuckles on mainly europeon,
plus a few jap & domestic autos for a living, plus having to endure the fiasco of dealer/port installed airconditioning, plus the fiasco York 2 cylinder a/c compressors installed on Piper aircraft has taught me a few things beltwise. One of the main issues with V belts is the lack of control of the placement of the plies in the cross section of the belt. Look at a premium automotive belt & you can see as the belt passes through the pulley, the reinforcing ply (s) wander all over the place. The rubber body wears at a different rate than the ply material & lo & behold the width start to vary & things start to shake. The serp belts are a huge improvement & a a plus it doesen't have to ride up & down in the groove as does a V belt. The link belt links are all ply material (fabric) & allows for easy replication (each link) in the manufacturing process so chance of defect, uneven wear is reduced. Also the link assembly flexes much better especially around a small pulley. |
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clue me in. I thought the op was asking us if his belt is loose. Harder
to tell from San Jose, than for the operator to make the small amount of effort to LOOK at the silly thing himself! dave Jim Wilson wrote: Bay Area Dave wrote... why don't you bend down by your saw and take a look at the belt?? Dave, you missed the point. Jim |
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John, I never said serpentine belts were inferiour to V-belts. On the
contrary, I prefer serpentines to any other type. OTOH, I feel your pain on the aftermarket/port installed A/Cs. I have had to repair hundreds. Dave "john" wrote in message ... having spent 40 some odd years busting my knuckles on mainly europeon, plus a few jap & domestic autos for a living, plus having to endure the fiasco of dealer/port installed airconditioning, plus the fiasco York 2 cylinder a/c compressors installed on Piper aircraft has taught me a few things beltwise. One of the main issues with V belts is the lack of control of the placement of the plies in the cross section of the belt. Look at a premium automotive belt & you can see as the belt passes through the pulley, the reinforcing ply (s) wander all over the place. The rubber body wears at a different rate than the ply material & lo & behold the width start to vary & things start to shake. The serp belts are a huge improvement & a a plus it doesen't have to ride up & down in the groove as does a V belt. The link belt links are all ply material (fabric) & allows for easy replication (each link) in the manufacturing process so chance of defect, uneven wear is reduced. Also the link assembly flexes much better especially around a small pulley. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Bay Area Dave wrote...
clue me in. I thought the op was asking us if his belt is loose. No, he was asking if it was normal for link belts to stretch over time. Jim |
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so, couldn't he conclude that by looking at his belt? If it was
stretched, he could safely conclude that link belts stretch over time...sigh. dave Jim Wilson wrote: Bay Area Dave wrote... clue me in. I thought the op was asking us if his belt is loose. No, he was asking if it was normal for link belts to stretch over time. Jim |
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In article , Bay Area Dave wrote:
so, couldn't he conclude that by looking at his belt? If it was stretched, he could safely conclude that link belts stretch over time...sigh. No, he could conclude that *his* link belt had stretched over time. I believe he wanted to know if that is typical behavior for *all* link belts, or if it's peculiar to his. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter, send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com |
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Bay Area Dave wrote...
so, couldn't he conclude that by looking at his belt? How could he? He can only inspect one belt. Jim |
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sigh... I forgot you are a mind reader too!
 dave Doug Miller wrote: In article , Bay Area Dave wrote: so, couldn't he conclude that by looking at his belt? If it was stretched, he could safely conclude that link belts stretch over time...sigh. No, he could conclude that *his* link belt had stretched over time. I believe he wanted to know if that is typical behavior for *all* link belts, or if it's peculiar to his. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) For a copy of my TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter, send email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com |
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Dave, sigh......
John, I have 4 link belts on various machines for the past year or so. None have changed length that I can measure. Rick "Bay Area Dave" wrote in message m... sigh... I forgot you are a mind reader too! dave |
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