Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in the
Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

Oscar Garcia wrote:

Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the
Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

Take a look at DirecTV or the other satellite vendor. Generally cheaper
than cable, more channels, and better service.



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"Oscar Garcia" wrote in message
...
Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

One more reason I'm glad I dumped Comcast. Bought into the whole AT&T
bundle including DISH satellite.
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NuWave Dave in Houston

they did that to us here in central MD too. then brought it back on a pay
package with other channels I do not want. so I do without. the good news
is my local pbs station suddenly has brought back American
woodworker,woodwrights shop,router workshop,new Yankee workshop to air I
have had to suffer with occasional and infrequent runs of new Yankee
workshop(not in order) for the past few years


Len

Comcast is pure evil. Run as fast as you can to some other service/TV
provider. You will never regret it.


"Oscar Garcia" wrote in message
...
Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in the
Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

my local pbs station suddenly has brought back American
woodworker,woodwrights shop,router workshop,new Yankee workshop

Len

Len,

I'm in Balto Co., I looked on MPT's site but don't see NYW listed.
What station/day/time are you seeing it?

Dave - Parkville

"Oscar Garcia" wrote in message news:
Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

.... and, being fed up to the max with Comcast and their faceless, corporate
mindset, I'm getting rid of them to give u-verse a try, which just hit our
area of the city (West side of West U) the first week of January.

Despite all the horror stories, a friend about mile away, where u-verse has
been available for about a year, has been touting it as being faster than
her cable on the broadband internet side, with which she has had no
problems.

I'll keep Comcast broadband, which has been more or less solid, until I see
whether vdsl actually has more throughput, despite being a tad bit slower
than my Comcast broadband in the advertisement ... really could care less
about the TV side.

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Swingman wrote:
"Oscar Garcia" wrote in message news:
Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

... and, being fed up to the max with Comcast and their faceless, corporate
mindset, I'm getting rid of them to give u-verse a try, which just hit our
area of the city (West side of West U) the first week of January.

Despite all the horror stories, a friend about mile away, where u-verse has
been available for about a year, has been touting it as being faster than
her cable on the broadband internet side, with which she has had no
problems.

I'll keep Comcast broadband, which has been more or less solid, until I see
whether vdsl actually has more throughput, despite being a tad bit slower
than my Comcast broadband in the advertisement ... really could care less
about the TV side.

I've been trying to get AT&T to give me a straight answer about whether
U-verse is available at my house, but so far without luck. I live in a
brand new development, and the neighbors all around me are getting set
up with it, but the website claims that it's not available at my
address. It also shows that the two houses on either side of mine don't
get it, but the houses two doors down on either side *do*! Go figure...

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Steve Turner wrote in news:01Jkj.1460$nK5.454
@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

I've been trying to get AT&T to give me a straight answer about whether
U-verse is available at my house, but so far without luck. I live in a
brand new development, and the neighbors all around me are getting set
up with it, but the website claims that it's not available at my
address. It also shows that the two houses on either side of mine don't
get it, but the houses two doors down on either side *do*! Go figure...

It seems that AT&T U-verse is similar in principle to Verizon Fios. As
such, it would be limited to so many points of distribution per wire or
strand of fiber. If the available number are spoken for, you'd have to
remove an old customer to get a new one, or string a new wire from a new
distribution point.

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On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:47:11 GMT, Han wrote:

Steve Turner wrote in news:01Jkj.1460$nK5.454
:

It seems that AT&T U-verse is similar in principle to Verizon Fios. As
such, it would be limited to so many points of distribution per wire or
strand of fiber.

It is.

"Steve Turner" wrote

I've been trying to get AT&T to give me a straight answer about whether
U-verse is available at my house, but so far without luck.

My wife had the same situation at her office, which is less than 300 yards
from the aforementioned friends residence, who has had u-verse for about a
year.

Being a hybrid combination of IP/DSL/fiber optic/twisted pair (most places
it's just "fiber to the node" (FTTN), then copper the rest of the way to the
residence), it apparently has the same "distance from the CO/DSLAM"
limitations that DSL has (unless you happen to be lucky enough to actually
have fiber all the way to your residence).

They've also been having a devil of a time with the technology, apparently.

A lot of technical wizards claimed it wouldn't work and are still convinced
AT&T is making a mistake, but AT&T defends u-verse by saying that, whereas
cable broadcasts the entire neighborhoods traffic to every router in the
neighborhood, their system, being IP based, routes only what is actually
destined for each individual router/location.

That, theoretically, should give you more throughput, despite the 2Mb/sec
less advertised speed for the fasted u-verse "broadband" ... we'll see.

(Like I said, I could care less about the TV side)

What I would really like to see available here is Verizon's FIOS ... that's
some awesome "broadband"!

Basically, until we get FTTH (fiber to the home), I'm just viewing U-verse
as a way to shoot a BIG middle finger at Comcast.

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They're dumping DIY here in CT as well. AND they just raised their rates
again. So far, it appears neither FIOS nor U-Verse is available in my
neighborhood. Looks like I'll have to choose between Dish and DirecTV.

Lee

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"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
t...

"Oscar Garcia" wrote in message
...
Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

One more reason I'm glad I dumped Comcast. Bought into the whole AT&T
bundle including DISH satellite.
--
NuWave Dave in Houston


Is that Dish Satellite by any chance Dish Network?

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:09:02 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

"Steve Turner" wrote

I've been trying to get AT&T to give me a straight answer about whether
U-verse is available at my house, but so far without luck.

My wife had the same situation at her office, which is less than 300 yards
from the aforementioned friends residence, who has had u-verse for about a
year.

Being a hybrid combination of IP/DSL/fiber optic/twisted pair (most places
it's just "fiber to the node" (FTTN), then copper the rest of the way to the
residence), it apparently has the same "distance from the CO/DSLAM"
limitations that DSL has (unless you happen to be lucky enough to actually
have fiber all the way to your residence).

That's what those new refrigerator sized boxes on the poles are for.

U-Verse actually has a more stringent distance limitation than data
DSL, so the boxes aren't far from the customer. The usable distances
change based on the exact cable makeup and quality in a specific
'hood, and in some cases, the presence of certain other types of
circuits in the cables. Individual neighborhoods are
"pre-conditioned", where bridgetaps are manually removed, records are
verified, and bad pairs are cleared.

There are also times when two neighbors might actually be fed from
different crossboxes. In this case, he's got it and you can't get it.
Sometimes, these borders make not make sense, as the cable stubs were
laid out based on dialtone and "proposed" development , and some
undergrounds can run through back yards.

In other cases, cable records are inaccurate, so a specific customer's
U-Verse applicability is not available to the rep on the phone, or the
self-serve web lookup utilities. "at&t" still has different record
keeping facilities at the different companies absorbed by SBC, and
then with SBC's purchase of AT&T. There is no nationwide record
keeping system, so accuracy of availability quotes can vary.

"Leon" wrote in message
et...

Is that Dish Satellite by any chance Dish Network?

Yessir.

rOn Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:09:02 -0600, "Swingman"
wrote:

Being a hybrid combination of IP/DSL/fiber optic/twisted pair (most places
it's just "fiber to the node" (FTTN), then copper the rest of the way to the
residence), it apparently has the same "distance from the CO/DSLAM"
limitations that DSL has (unless you happen to be lucky enough to actually
have fiber all the way to your residence).

Warning: I have a friend who tried out the AT&T hybrid system and had
nothing but trouble. If it's just internet, he gets about 6Mbps, but
if they try to put TV on top of it, he gets all kinds of digital
breakup, lockups, artifacts, etc. A lot of that is trying to shove
all that data down copper lines.

I agree with you, wait until you get fiber to your door like I did. I
get 15Mpbs plus FiOS TV that doesn't break up at all (except for the
first day, but they were upgrading the system and everyone in the area
had problems). I'm finally completely off the copper grid.


Blog Me! http://BitchSpot.JadeDragonOnline.com

"Brian Henderson" wrote

had problems). I'm finally completely off the copper grid.


You suck!


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Oscar I live in Houston too, I hace comcast for my internet but have refused
to let them handle my TV or phone. I have Directv and have had it for
several years and am very happy. The only outages have been in the heavest
rain storms. Other wise no complaints.
Lynn

"Oscar Garcia" wrote in message
...
Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:35:34 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

You suck!

I had to wait almost 2 years for it to finally get to me and I'm the
first one in my area, residential or commercial, to have the service.
I might suck but I fought tooth and nail to get it.


Blog Me! http://BitchSpot.JadeDragonOnline.com

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:17:20 -0600, "Oscar Garcia"
wrote:

Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in the
Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar


I dumped cable over 12 years ago. No regrets.

I have one phone line with Comcast and one with Verison only because
Comcast couldnt handle a fax ring. I am very happy with both
companies. My comcast internet couldnt be any better. The Comcast TV
part Iam not as happy about only because of the steady price increase
each year. The way i understand it that each town decides what
channels. Our town does not have the same channels as some other
surrounding towns with comcast.There is a board of citizens that
decide for the whole town and negociate things like a free public
access channel, and what chanels There are some towns (very few ) that
own the cables and put the service out for bids. I remember a
economics professor saying that ATT had a monoply because you cant
have 7 telephone poles on each corner. Now we share the distribution
and allow different gas, electric, long distance carriers to sell the
goods. Someday cable will be that way and should bring the cost down
and service up.I would speak to your local Houston area board before
blaming Comcast.

In ,
Brian Henderson spewed forth:
rOn Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:09:02 -0600, "Swingman"
wrote:

Being a hybrid combination of IP/DSL/fiber optic/twisted pair (most
places it's just "fiber to the node" (FTTN), then copper the rest of
the way to the residence), it apparently has the same "distance from
the CO/DSLAM" limitations that DSL has (unless you happen to be
lucky enough to actually have fiber all the way to your residence).

Warning: I have a friend who tried out the AT&T hybrid system and had
nothing but trouble. If it's just internet, he gets about 6Mbps, but
if they try to put TV on top of it, he gets all kinds of digital
breakup, lockups, artifacts, etc. A lot of that is trying to shove
all that data down copper lines.

I agree with you, wait until you get fiber to your door like I did. I
get 15Mpbs plus FiOS TV that doesn't break up at all (except for the
first day, but they were upgrading the system and everyone in the area
had problems). I'm finally completely off the copper grid.


Blog Me! http://BitchSpot.JadeDragonOnline.com

Yup, FIOS is great. I've been on 2 years now and there has not been one day
that they were down.
Not even as much as a hiccup. When I was on Comcast it was a regular event

"Oscar Garcia" wrote

Well it likes Comcast will be getting rid of DIY and FineLiving here in
the Houston area at the end of the month. Bummer! -Oscar

I uncrossed my u-verse fingers this morning, freeing a big middle one to
show to Comcast ... at last!

U-verse looks like it's going to work ... broadband is consistently faster,
even though the throughput is rated at 1 meg less ... until next month when
AT&T supposedly ups u-verse to 10 megs with their new "Max" tier.

Bye bye, Comcast ... and a virulent pox on your business model!

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