I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce / reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop, seeing as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce / reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250 watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop, seeing as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce / reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce / reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ



I'm just putting the finishing touches on my 50'X100'X16 building I
purchased from www.steelbuilding.com they have been very good to work with
on the building, and they answered the MANY questions I had while I put it
up. Their buildings are red iron, not wood, and have nice heavy gauge steel
panels. You can spec out your building online in just about any size you
want and get an instant price from their system, one of the best e-commerce
systems I have seen on the internet!

Words of wisdom??

A 5k sq ft building is a BIG project to build by your self! I finally
broke down and hired some help to finish the roof, those 28'6" roof panels
were just a little to large to install by myself.

William.....

I just put in a 42 by50 foot thermally insulated,t stele building.
About a half dozen contractors were interview and invited to quote. One
of the middle bidders was selected.

There were cost over runs and the project was behind schedule. The
effort resulted in a very nice hobby shop including a 24 by 24 enclosed
wood shop with a planer, jointer,shaper, cabinet saw, chop saw,panel
saw, classic wood bench and a drill press. The wood shop is a bit
cramped. Still, all the machine items are on casters and that makes up
for the tight quarters.

The building also contains a metal working machine shop, a office/
electronic shop and a weld shop.

If I had everything to do over, I would have written up a much tighter
contract, including a penalty clause for falling behind schedule.

I just put in a 42 by50 foot thermally insulated,t stele building.
About a half dozen contractors were interview and invited to quote. One
of the middle bidders was selected.

There were cost over runs and the project was behind schedule. The
effort resulted in a very nice hobby shop including a 24 by 24 enclosed
wood shop with a planer, jointer,shaper, cabinet saw, chop saw,panel
saw, classic wood bench and a drill press. The wood shop is a bit
cramped. Still, all the machine items are on casters and that makes up
for the tight quarters.

The building also contains a metal working machine shop, a office/
electronic shop and a weld shop.

If I had everything to do over, I would have written up a much tighter
contract, including a penalty clause for falling behind schedule.

Doug,
Your total comes to well over $40,000 for the finished shed. (Is this
American dollars?)
That's a bit scary, since I hope to build one in a few years. What
alternatives did you check out?

Bob



"doug houseman" wrote in message
...
I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250 watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop, seeing
as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for
comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce / reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

I did a bunch of reserach on this a few years ago. Turned out that the total
cost for a traditional balloon frame (stud) building was about the same as
the cost for a metal building. Mine is 52x40. The interior is faced with
OSB, the floor is Advantec (a composite plywood), the cieling is unfinished
drywall. I've also got a 5' basement, and an "attic" that has an area about
20x52 that could easily be finished (the roof trusses used up about 10' on
each side). the best part is that it matches the other buildings on the
property - I don't have to deal with the ugly metal building look.....

--JD




"Bob Schmall" wrote in message
...
Doug,
Your total comes to well over $40,000 for the finished shed. (Is this
American dollars?)
That's a bit scary, since I hope to build one in a few years. What
alternatives did you check out?

Bob



"doug houseman" wrote in message
...
I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250 watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop,
seeing
as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we
spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for
comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce /
reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

JD:
What was the cost, and what do you use the building for?

Bob

"jduprie" wrote in message
news:A6Epb.100104$Tr4.266608@attbi_s03...
I did a bunch of reserach on this a few years ago. Turned out that the
total
cost for a traditional balloon frame (stud) building was about the same as
the cost for a metal building. Mine is 52x40. The interior is faced with
OSB, the floor is Advantec (a composite plywood), the cieling is
unfinished
drywall. I've also got a 5' basement, and an "attic" that has an area
about
20x52 that could easily be finished (the roof trusses used up about 10' on
each side). the best part is that it matches the other buildings on the
property - I don't have to deal with the ugly metal building look.....

--JD




"Bob Schmall" wrote in message
...
Doug,
Your total comes to well over $40,000 for the finished shed. (Is this
American dollars?)
That's a bit scary, since I hope to build one in a few years. What
alternatives did you check out?

Bob



"doug houseman" wrote in message
...
I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered
them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am
insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and
have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250
watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop,
seeing
as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted
by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we
spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for
comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce /
reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

"jduprie" wrote in message
news:A6Epb.100104$Tr4.266608@attbi_s03...
I did a bunch of reserach on this a few years ago. Turned out that the
total
cost for a traditional balloon frame (stud) building was about the same as
the cost for a metal building. Mine is 52x40. The interior is faced with
OSB, the floor is Advantec (a composite plywood), the cieling is
unfinished
drywall. I've also got a 5' basement, and an "attic" that has an area
about
20x52 that could easily be finished (the roof trusses used up about 10' on
each side). the best part is that it matches the other buildings on the
property - I don't have to deal with the ugly metal building look.....

--JD



I find that rather hard to believe, I don't see how you could build ( for
the basic structure ) a 100' x 50' x 16' (clear span building out of wood
framed construction (have you priced OSB lately? and forget plywood!) for
less than the base building cost of 18k for the metal building I paid. You
would have to also include the shingles and paint!

William.....



"Bob Schmall" wrote in message
...
Doug,
Your total comes to well over $40,000 for the finished shed. (Is this
American dollars?)
That's a bit scary, since I hope to build one in a few years. What
alternatives did you check out?

Bob



"doug houseman" wrote in message
...
I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered
them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am
insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and
have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250
watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop,
seeing
as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted
by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we
spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for
comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce /
reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

the building cost about 65K total. Its fully heated/cooled, has a full
oneida DC system (3HP), and is currlty the kids playroom, or my shop,
depending on what day it is......
The price also includes a smaller attached room - about the size of a large
1 car garage, with poured floor, 14' cieling, and finished walls.

--JD


"Bob Schmall" wrote in message
...
JD:
What was the cost, and what do you use the building for?

Bob

"jduprie" wrote in message
news:A6Epb.100104$Tr4.266608@attbi_s03...
I did a bunch of reserach on this a few years ago. Turned out that the
total
cost for a traditional balloon frame (stud) building was about the same
as
the cost for a metal building. Mine is 52x40. The interior is faced with
OSB, the floor is Advantec (a composite plywood), the cieling is
unfinished
drywall. I've also got a 5' basement, and an "attic" that has an area
about
20x52 that could easily be finished (the roof trusses used up about 10'
on
each side). the best part is that it matches the other buildings on the
property - I don't have to deal with the ugly metal building look.....

--JD




"Bob Schmall" wrote in message
...
Doug,
Your total comes to well over $40,000 for the finished shed. (Is this
American dollars?)
That's a bit scary, since I hope to build one in a few years. What
alternatives did you check out?

Bob



"doug houseman" wrote in message
...
I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost
another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered
them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is
used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am
insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and
have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250
watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for
someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop,
seeing
as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any
detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted
by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we
spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for
comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce /
reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

I think you misread - its 40x52. Vinyl siding takes care of the paint
problem.

I agree that there's no way I could match the *base* price for a prefab
metal building - I was talking about hte *complete* price of the structure.
It would probably cost a bit more now - plywood prices have gone kinda
crazy, but when I did the pricing out, the metal buildings came out about as
expensive as traditional. I included the maintenance costs, and figured on a
20 year ocupancy. Traditional construction came out a bit less expensive up
front, and a bit less in the long run too. Some of the factors that probably
made a difference:
I have lots of windows (windows for metal buildings are expensive for
some reason)
I needed a clear span (advantage in metal building - the trusses I ended
up using were expensive)
I needed a 2 story structure (cost a *lot* more to add the second story
in metal)
I needed something that would match the existing house, as it's attached
(added a lot to the metal building cost)

The reality was (for me, anyway) that the balloon (the actual shell of the
building - what the metal buildings call the "base package") was pretty
inexpensive compared to the overall project. Foundation, windows, roof,
heat, electric, etc all added up. Any savings that might have been realized
inteh "base package" were lost because of special considerations that needed
to be taken into account for the rest - things like you can't just staple up
wiring, siding to match the existing place is extra, finished interior walls
can't be aniled or screwed up - first you have to provide nailers, etc.....

Anyway, in my case, metal buildings were just not a good (read economical)
solution.....

-_JD


"William" wrote in message
news:HLRpb.106304$e01.365096@attbi_s02...

"jduprie" wrote in message
news:A6Epb.100104$Tr4.266608@attbi_s03...
I did a bunch of reserach on this a few years ago. Turned out that the
total
cost for a traditional balloon frame (stud) building was about the same
as
the cost for a metal building. Mine is 52x40. The interior is faced with
OSB, the floor is Advantec (a composite plywood), the cieling is
unfinished
drywall. I've also got a 5' basement, and an "attic" that has an area
about
20x52 that could easily be finished (the roof trusses used up about 10'
on
each side). the best part is that it matches the other buildings on the
property - I don't have to deal with the ugly metal building look.....

--JD



I find that rather hard to believe, I don't see how you could build ( for
the basic structure ) a 100' x 50' x 16' (clear span building out of wood
framed construction (have you priced OSB lately? and forget plywood!) for
less than the base building cost of 18k for the metal building I paid. You
would have to also include the shingles and paint!

William.....



"Bob Schmall" wrote in message
...
Doug,
Your total comes to well over $40,000 for the finished shed. (Is this
American dollars?)
That's a bit scary, since I hope to build one in a few years. What
alternatives did you check out?

Bob



"doug houseman" wrote in message
...
I had Wick build a 30 x 45 foot Gambrel Roof 12 foot side wall Steel
(pole) builidng for me.

The quoted cost - less concrete - a loft and interior finishing was
about 24,000

Concrete with rat walls and all - I went with a 6 inch slab - was
another 8,000

The interior loft I did myself in sections - and it has cost
another
about 3,000 (I used 12mm plywood from Canada for the floor - it only
comes in AB, so it is a bit pricy).

I did 24 inch on center 2x6 studs and filled them with 6 inch R-19
batting for the walls - all the way to the end peaks - then covered
them
with T-111. Another about 4,000

I did some interior partitions as well.

The finals size of the shop is 20 x 27 - the rest of the barn is
used
for other things.

I am adding a Hot Dawg from ACME this fall for heat and I am
insulating
the underside of the loft and putting enamaled hardboard up for a
ceiling.

I use 2 - 250 Watt Sodium Vapor lights for general illumination and
have
6 - 2 tube 40Watt 4' lights for area work as will as two mobile 250
watt
spots for when I want to do detail work.

Wick did a great job - it is the 17th barn they have built for
someone
in my family!

Hope this helps.

Doug

In article ,
"George M. Kazaka" wrote:

Graig, I did a little looking into on steel building for a shop,
seeing
as
how i had no dirt to erect one on i didn't pursue it into any
detail

I have been waiting for you to post, I got your e-mail and deleted
by
accident so i do not have your address in reference to the pine we
spoke
about send it again and I promise not to erase is again, G

George in Mesa,


"Pops" wrote in message
.net...
I am going to be putting up a steel building and am looking for
comments.
Listed below are of particular interest:

1. Any companies that have good or bad customer serivce /
reputation.
2. Quoted cost to finish cost.
3. Buy from a local or natioanl firm.
4. How easy is it to insulate?
5. Words of wisdom.

Thanks
Craig Orput
Cave Creek, AZ

I think you misread - its 40x52. Vinyl siding takes care of the paint
problem.

No, I used 50x100x16 because it's the size I just finished ( well almost
finished:-) building and I knew the price of it.


I agree that there's no way I could match the *base* price for a prefab
metal building - I was talking about hte *complete* price of the
structure.
It would probably cost a bit more now - plywood prices have gone kinda
crazy, but when I did the pricing out, the metal buildings came out about
as
expensive as traditional. I included the maintenance costs, and figured on
a
20 year ocupancy. Traditional construction came out a bit less expensive
up
front, and a bit less in the long run too. Some of the factors that
probably
made a difference:

I have lots of windows (windows for metal buildings are expensive for
some reason)

I will give you that, the windows are much more $$ for the metal walls and
I'm not sure why, must be a volume thing.

I needed a clear span (advantage in metal building - the trusses I
ended
up using were expensive)

I needed a 2 story structure (cost a *lot* more to add the second
story
in metal)

Well the really expensive part of the second floor is the same the floor
joists and plywood for the floor is common for both building methods.

The metal building does require that you support the ends of the joists on
some sort of wall so I just used 2x6 studs to frame out an inside wall on
the perimeter of the building where I have the 2 floors.


I needed something that would match the existing house, as it's
attached
(added a lot to the metal building cost)

yep would be a problem with a metal building.


The reality was (for me, anyway) that the balloon (the actual shell of the
building - what the metal buildings call the "base package") was pretty
inexpensive compared to the overall project. Foundation, windows, roof,
heat, electric, etc all added up. Any savings that might have been
realized
inteh "base package" were lost because of special considerations that
needed
to be taken into account for the rest - things like you can't just staple
up
wiring, siding to match the existing place is extra, finished interior
walls
can't be aniled or screwed up - first you have to provide nailers,
etc.....


Most of the costs are similar for both buildings, they all need
foundations, electric, heat, etc.... The roof is cheaper on the metal
building by far, and lasts a lot longer than most shingles too. For the
electrical I wanted to run all of it in conduit, so the cost for me would be
a wash.

Hey maybe I should start a new thread with how to install the wires for my
service. Can I run the 600 amps @480 Volt for my service drop on 18 gauge
lamp cord instead of the dual 350 kcml I'm running:-)


Anyway, in my case, metal buildings were just not a good (read economical)
solution.....

I did not mean to imply that in your case that the solution you did was not
a good choice, but rather for most buildings ( that don't have to match or
attach to an existing structure ). The metal building is just about the
cheapest way to build a larger building. On some smaller structures, or
special cases like yours that might not be the case.

William.....


-_JD


"William" wrote in message
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"jduprie" wrote in message
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I did a bunch of reserach on this a few years ago. Turned out that the
total
cost for a traditional balloon frame (stud) building was about the
same
as
the cost for a metal building. Mine is 52x40. The interior is faced
with
OSB, the floor is Advantec (a composite plywood), the cieling is
unfinished
drywall. I've also got a 5' basement, and an "attic" that has an area
about
20x52 that could easily be finished (the roof trusses used up about
10'
on
each side). the best part is that it matches the other buildings on
the
property - I don't have to deal with the ugly metal building look.....

--JD



I find that rather hard to believe, I don't see how you could build (
for
the basic structure ) a 100' x 50' x 16' (clear span building out of
wood
framed construction (have you priced OSB lately? and forget plywood!)
for
less than the base building cost of 18k for the metal building I paid.
You
would have to also include the shingles and paint!

William.....