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Totally OT Ford attempts to dazzle the customer
Well the 500 did not do well so Ford decided to make a BOLD move to please
the customer and rename it the Taurus. I guess they figure the average buyer will not know the difference. They are so proud of that decision that they have renamed one of their SUV's, the Escape or the Freestyle I don't recall which, the Taurus X. Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line |
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"Leon" wrote in message t... Well the 500 did not do well so Ford decided to make a BOLD move to please the customer and rename it the Taurus. I guess they figure the average buyer will not know the difference. They are so proud of that decision that they have renamed one of their SUV's, the Escape or the Freestyle I don't recall which, the Taurus X. Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line Sounds fair. All the good Italian and French names are in use by the competition. |
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"Leon" wrote in message t... Well the 500 did not do well so Ford decided to make a BOLD move to please the customer and rename it the Taurus. I guess they figure the average buyer will not know the difference. They are so proud of that decision that they have renamed one of their SUV's, the Escape or the Freestyle I don't recall which, the Taurus X. Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line No mention of retail price but I can hardly wait. Max |
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on 10/16/2007 6:47 PM Max said the following:
"Leon" wrote in message t... Well the 500 did not do well so Ford decided to make a BOLD move to please the customer and rename it the Taurus. I guess they figure the average buyer will not know the difference. They are so proud of that decision that they have renamed one of their SUV's, the Escape or the Freestyle I don't recall which, the Taurus X. Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line No mention of retail price but I can hardly wait. Max Ford has a history of changing names and ****ing up their best sellers. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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Article says $950.00 Wonder if you have to pay using those oversized
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:33:11 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: ... Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. If nothing else about it is a clue, this statement makes the report preposterous: "... the company will save millions of dollars by paying workers on the man-powered assembly lines—once considered a revolutionary breakthrough—wages at 1911 rates. ..." Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA |
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Tom Veatch wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:33:11 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. If nothing else about it is a clue, this statement makes the report preposterous: "... the company will save millions of dollars by paying workers on the man-powered assembly lines-once considered a revolutionary breakthrough-wages at 1911 rates. ..." TheOnion.com is the tongue in cheek give away. A newspaper version of SNL. Ford has however renamed 2 different vehicles with the Taurus name. |
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On Oct 17, 12:20 am, "Leon" wrote:
Tom Veatch wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:33:11 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. If nothing else about it is a clue, this statement makes the report preposterous: "... the company will save millions of dollars by paying workers on the man-powered assembly lines-once considered a revolutionary breakthrough-wages at 1911 rates. ..." TheOnion.com is the tongue in cheek give away. A newspaper version of SNL. Ford has however renamed 2 different vehicles with the Taurus name. Taurus was Napoleon's middle name. Napoleon Taurus Bonaparte. (Say it quickly) ....ain't that a knee-slapper? |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:20:20 -0500, "Leon"
wrote: TheOnion.com is the tongue in cheek give away. A newspaper version of SNL. ... Thanks. This was my first encounter with "TheOnion". Did look over the page somewhat, but didn't see any disclaimers indicating the non-serious nature of the reporting. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA |
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On Oct 17, 12:20 am, "Leon" wrote:
Tom Veatch wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:33:11 GMT, "Leon" wrote: Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. If nothing else about it is a clue, this statement makes the report preposterous: "... the company will save millions of dollars by paying workers on the man-powered assembly lines-once considered a revolutionary breakthrough-wages at 1911 rates. ..." TheOnion.com is the tongue in cheek give away. A newspaper version of SNL. Ford has however renamed 2 different vehicles with the Taurus name. I remember a Zephyr being an absolute piece of crap. Now it's a hoity- toity Lincoln. The name Vauxhall and Firenza bring back some very disturbing memories. (Ford didn't have an exclusive on name badgering.) Then there was the Ford Granada from the late 70's..now THAT was a price winner. The European Ford Grenada was a great car. I rented it there when I could. Let's not even begin to talk about such miscarriages as the Bobcat and Pinto...Ford has come up with trash, I tell ya. ..and..and WHO can forget that Thunderbird which came in blue with brown straps on the farking trunk lids...maaaaan what an abomination. Then there was the GT40, which made it all better....what a nice piece that was. I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 17, 12:20 am, "Leon" wrote: I remember a Zephyr being an absolute piece of crap. Now it's a hoity- toity Lincoln. WAS, it is already no longer. I think it is the Milan now. I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. That's the new Taurus now. |
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On Oct 17, 12:39 am, Tom Veatch wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:20:20 -0500, "Leon" wrote: TheOnion.com is the tongue in cheek give away. A newspaper version of SNL. ... Thanks. This was my first encounter with "TheOnion". Did look over the page somewhat, but didn't see any disclaimers indicating the non-serious nature of the reporting. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA The Onion did a parody on the moon landing. See if you can find it....it brings tears to my eyes every time I read it. |
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Tom Veatch wrote:
Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. Not familiar with "The Onion"? G |
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Tom Veatch wrote:
Thanks. This was my first encounter with "TheOnion". Did look over the page somewhat, but didn't see any disclaimers indicating the non-serious nature of the reporting. On occasion, "The Onion" has had some real side splitters, the Ford article isn't their best work. |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:02:34 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote: Tom Veatch wrote: Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. Not familiar with "The Onion"? G Ok, I'll admit to being a little behind the power curve since I'd never heard of it until now. But, based on other posts, it's got a strong potential for making my list of favorites. I'm always open to a humorous read; Patrick F. McManus being one of my most enjoyed authors. Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA |
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Tom Veatch wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:33:11 GMT, "Leon" wrote: ... Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line Tongue-in-cheek? Satire? A gentle tug on the leg? Or something else. Whatever it is, you can bet that's not a serious report. If nothing else about it is a clue, this statement makes the report preposterous: "... the company will save millions of dollars by paying workers on the man-powered assembly lines-once considered a revolutionary breakthrough-wages at 1911 rates. ..." Tom Veatch Wichita, KS USA Not very familiar with "The Onion" huh Tom. Max |
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"Leon" wrote in message et... "Robatoy" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 17, 12:20 am, "Leon" wrote: I remember a Zephyr being an absolute piece of crap. Now it's a hoity- toity Lincoln. WAS, it is already no longer. I think it is the Milan now. Lincoln MKZ. Changes include a 3.5L, 263 Hp over the 3.0L, 202 HP, a smoooooth 6 speed tranny, improved suspension. Nice little car. Just bought one for my wife. Max I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. That's the new Taurus now. |
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On Oct 16, 11:43 pm, Robatoy wrote:
SNIP I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. You know, I don't think I have ever read anything really bad about this car, and for the most part it seem to be seeing positive reports on most aspects of this model. But I just don't think that American comsumers care anymore about Ford and their lousy products. After putting out crap for so many years, they are simply irrelevant. All that bad capital they have built over the years will truly be almost impossible to overcome. I wonder if any tool makers are following along on the home version of this story... Robert |
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on 10/17/2007 7:04 AM B A R R Y said the following:
Tom Veatch wrote: Thanks. This was my first encounter with "TheOnion". Did look over the page somewhat, but didn't see any disclaimers indicating the non-serious nature of the reporting. On occasion, "The Onion" has had some real side splitters, the Ford article isn't their best work. How much did the Onion say the T would cost. You can buy a real T for about $13,000. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:04:05 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote: Tom Veatch wrote: Thanks. This was my first encounter with "TheOnion". Did look over the page somewhat, but didn't see any disclaimers indicating the non-serious nature of the reporting. On occasion, "The Onion" has had some real side splitters, the Ford article isn't their best work. The article about Harry Reid kicking the ranch dog sure made the rounds in a hurry! Until people realized the source! Sure sounded believable. |
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On Oct 17, 4:39 pm, "
wrote: On Oct 16, 11:43 pm, Robatoy wrote: SNIP I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. You know, I don't think I have ever read anything really bad about this car, and for the most part it seem to be seeing positive reports on most aspects of this model. I'm an Audi guy. I have messed with BMW, even Mercedes. (Never any real 'upscale' versions like AMG's or M5's). So, I have a bit of a feel for handling and power and such. Nothing I like more than being able to throw around big cars at small car- speeds. That ride in that Ford 500 was a real surprise for me. It had all kinds of throttle, LOTS of cornering ability, and plenty of brakes. I likened it to a 540 BMW in all aspects. For WAY less than half the money of an Audi A6 with a 4.2 litre V-8, the 500 was one helluva deal. (Fit and finish weren't quite there...and neither was the 'scent'..but dammit, it was a nice car.) But I just don't think that American comsumers care anymore about Ford and their lousy products. After putting out crap for so many years, they are simply irrelevant. All that bad capital they have built over the years will truly be almost impossible to overcome. *sigh*... what a a frickin' shame. Really. That mind-set is so hard to overcome. So much has to do with people feeling 'let down'. I have a parking lot full of stories. My guys love some of my old GMC rolling stock, but can't stand the newer stuff. I wonder if any tool makers are following along on the home version of this story... I repeat. It is a crying shame. It's like a huge collective enema was shoved up an entire nation and deflated any and all loyalties out from under them. *I* am a Canadian. *I* take pride in buying something that says MADE IN USA. *I* am NOT sucking up to anybody here. It is a FACT! My big brother to the south of me can do AMAZING things. Moonshots. Big Bombs even. You sunsabitches kicked some whoopass in Europe back in '45. You got some awesome women down there. (My sister's one of them... so are 3 nieces who suffered tornadoes and dead husbands...) Hell...even your Bourbon is kinda wicked and cool. So, lose Bush, Cheney, and Doug Miller, and I'll love you again. You DO know I'm kidding, right? (well maybe not ALL of it...) |
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wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 16, 11:43 pm, Robatoy wrote: SNIP I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. You know, I don't think I have ever read anything really bad about this car, and for the most part it seem to be seeing positive reports on most aspects of this model. Yeah, ths only thing I have heard negative about the 500 was the new shiftless transmission. Apparently it is lack luster and sluggish. But I just don't think that American comsumers care anymore about Ford and their lousy products. After putting out crap for so many years, they are simply irrelevant. All that bad capital they have built over the years will truly be almost impossible to overcome. American cars in genereal. I worked for GM dealerships and can assure you that the lack of quality, the lack of "caring" is what has gotten them in the spot they are in today. I clearly recall single part numbers that would go bad year after year with no design improvements. I clearly recall the GM rep grabbing a hand full of warranty parts and rejecting the warranty claims simply because our dealer hip was replacing more than the zone average. Might I add that we were awarded a Service Excelence award by GM for having the fewest customer complaints amoung other things. I wonder if any tool makers are following along on the home version of this story... Robert |
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On Oct 18, 8:44 am, "Leon" wrote:
Yeah, ths only thing I have heard negative about the 500 was the new shiftless transmission. Apparently it is lack luster and sluggish. Lackluster in the sense that it isn't something you can feather and slam about. I like the more direct feel too, but it sure was smooth. |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 18, 8:44 am, "Leon" wrote: Lackluster in the sense that it isn't something you can feather and slam about. I like the more direct feel too, but it sure was smooth. .. The car is probably exactly as they intended, a replacement for the Crown Vic. Most of those buyers are more concerned with smooth over performance. |
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"willshak" wrote in message ... on 10/17/2007 7:04 AM B A R R Y said the following: Tom Veatch wrote: Thanks. This was my first encounter with "TheOnion". Did look over the page somewhat, but didn't see any disclaimers indicating the non-serious nature of the reporting. On occasion, "The Onion" has had some real side splitters, the Ford article isn't their best work. How much did the Onion say the T would cost. You can buy a real T for about $13,000. Didn't Ford just re-engineer the Model T for the 100th aniversary of the Henry Ford Museum. I think they built 20 of them for you to drive around the village last year. Maybe that is where this blurb came from, I think it cost them over $100,000 to build them.... Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On Oct 17, 9:39?pm, "
wrote: On Oct 16, 11:43 pm, Robatoy wrote: SNIP I drove a Ford 500 recently and thought it was just fine. I quite liked it. You know, I don't think I have ever read anything really bad about this car, and for the most part it seem to be seeing positive reports on most aspects of this model. But I just don't think that American comsumers care anymore about Ford and their lousy products. After putting out crap for so many years, they are simply irrelevant. All that bad capital they have built over the years will truly be almost impossible to overcome. Robert If Tom McCahill was still around you can bet he'd have a few choice words on the subject. (God I miss his reviews.) Car model naming seems to have become more wierd over the years. (Unless you really prefer Mercedes' and BMW's uninspired alpha-numeric approach.) I succeeded in never riding in a Datsun Cherry FoggyTown |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... "Robatoy" wrote in message ps.com... On Oct 18, 8:44 am, "Leon" wrote: Lackluster in the sense that it isn't something you can feather and slam about. I like the more direct feel too, but it sure was smooth. . The car is probably exactly as they intended, a replacement for the Crown Vic. Most of those buyers are more concerned with smooth over performance. Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. |
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"George" wrote in message et... "Leon" wrote in message ... Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. Well, that "usta" be true but ever since the problem with the gas tanks exploding in a collision way back when, the Crown Vic's were dropped immediately in the SE Texas area. |
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"FoggyTown" wrote in message oups.com... If Tom McCahill was still around you can bet he'd have a few choice words on the subject. (God I miss his reviews.) Car model naming seems to have become more wierd over the years. (Unless you really prefer Mercedes' and BMW's uninspired alpha-numeric approach.) I succeeded in never riding in a Datsun Cherry FoggyTown I think all the Asian cars have a rather strange name. When I worked for an Isuzu dealership in the 80's our factory rep indicated, IIRC the Pickup, "Pup" was called Lotus Blossom, in Japan. |
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Leon wrote:
"George" wrote in message et... "Leon" wrote in message ... Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. Well, that "usta" be true but ever since the problem with the gas tanks exploding in a collision way back when, the Crown Vic's were dropped immediately in the SE Texas area. Maybe, but that certainly wasn't general. -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "George" wrote in message et... "Leon" wrote in message ... Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. Well, that "usta" be true but ever since the problem with the gas tanks exploding in a collision way back when, the Crown Vic's were dropped immediately in the SE Texas area. Maybe, but that certainly wasn't general. Huh? This was pretty well know via most all national TV networks. It was reported that "many" law enforcement agencies were getting rid of them. |
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Leon wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "George" wrote in message et... "Leon" wrote in message ... Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. Well, that "usta" be true but ever since the problem with the gas tanks exploding in a collision way back when, the Crown Vic's were dropped immediately in the SE Texas area. Maybe, but that certainly wasn't general. Huh? This was pretty well know via most all national TV networks. It was reported that "many" law enforcement agencies were getting rid of them. I guess it was the "immediately" that flagged my attention -- there were jurisdictions around here that didn't replace them w/ Vic's, but couldn't afford to get rid of them until rotation time came up... -- |
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"dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "George" wrote in message et... "Leon" wrote in message ... Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. Well, that "usta" be true but ever since the problem with the gas tanks exploding in a collision way back when, the Crown Vic's were dropped immediately in the SE Texas area. Maybe, but that certainly wasn't general. Huh? This was pretty well know via most all national TV networks. It was reported that "many" law enforcement agencies were getting rid of them. I guess it was the "immediately" that flagged my attention -- there were jurisdictions around here that didn't replace them w/ Vic's, but couldn't afford to get rid of them until rotation time came up... There are still plenty of them in service in El Paso. Max |
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Max wrote:
"dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "dpb" wrote in message ... Leon wrote: "George" wrote in message et... "Leon" wrote in message ... Most drivers of the Crown Victoria have good, overbuilt transmissions rather than fuel-saving smooth types, because they're cops. Well, that "usta" be true but ever since the problem with the gas tanks exploding in a collision way back when, the Crown Vic's were dropped immediately in the SE Texas area. Maybe, but that certainly wasn't general. Huh? This was pretty well know via most all national TV networks. It was reported that "many" law enforcement agencies were getting rid of them. I guess it was the "immediately" that flagged my attention -- there were jurisdictions around here that didn't replace them w/ Vic's, but couldn't afford to get rid of them until rotation time came up... There are still plenty of them in service in El Paso. Here as well. In fact, back when it became a flap, the local county maintenance supervisor, being an old farm boy, took all of the ones used for patrol and welded a plate to the frame behind the tank to stop the penetration of the stray piece--problem solved for probably 99% of the cases, much less expensive than buying new. -- |
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On Oct 15, 3:33 pm, "Leon" wrote:
Well the 500 did not do well so Ford decided to make a BOLD move to please the customer and rename it the Taurus. I guess they figure the average buyer will not know the difference. They are so proud of that decision that they have renamed one of their SUV's, the Escape or the Freestyle I don't recall which, the Taurus X. Now Ford is reintroducing the Model-T http://www.theonion.com/content/news...s_model_t_line Ford's Euro version of the Escape SUV is named Maverick. |
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"Max" wrote in message . net... There are still plenty of them in service in El Paso. Max Smaller towns then not to rack up the miles as quickly and the budgets are usually pretty tight. |
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"Leon" wrote in message ... "Max" wrote in message . net... There are still plenty of them in service in El Paso. Max Smaller towns then not to rack up the miles as quickly and the budgets are usually pretty tight. 650,000 population. 1200 man police force. 20 - 2007 Ford Crown Victorias 6 - 2007 Dodge Chargers numerous older Crown Vics |
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