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Zero Clearance Table Insert
I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself?
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"silver_18038" wrote in message
I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? Got an 8" dado stack? If so, use one of the 8" blades, not a chipper, to make the initial cut. You can also route out enough clearance for the 10" blade with a router if need be. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 6/1/07 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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"silver_18038" wrote in message I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? Got an 8" dado stack? If so, use one of the 8" blades, not a chipper, to make the initial cut. If you don't have an 8" dado set, a 7-1/4" circular-saw blade would do the job as well. You can also route out enough clearance for the 10" blade with a router if need be. That's really the easiest, especially if you have a router table. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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(Doug Miller) wrote in : In article , "Swingman" wrote: "silver_18038" wrote in message I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? Got an 8" dado stack? If so, use one of the 8" blades, not a chipper, to make the initial cut. If you don't have an 8" dado set, a 7-1/4" circular-saw blade would do the job as well. snip Well, maybe two, installed side by side. They really are narrow kerf... Depends on the blade... -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Patriarch wrote: (Doug Miller) wrote in : In article , "Swingman" wrote: "silver_18038" wrote in message I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? Got an 8" dado stack? If so, use one of the 8" blades, not a chipper, to make the initial cut. If you don't have an 8" dado set, a 7-1/4" circular-saw blade would do the job as well. snip Well, maybe two, installed side by side. They really are narrow kerf... Depends on the blade... Damn few (any?) will have large enough arbor hole to get on the tablesaw shaft, though... -- |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:36:58 +0100, silver_18038 wrote:
I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? I too have an older Craftsman TS. What I did to cut the zero clearance inserts was to install a 8" blade on the saw, then raise it to cut the slot. I then re-installed the 10" blade and finished the cut. Hope this helps. Paul T. http://www.USENETHOST.com 100% Uncensored , 100% Anonymous, 5$/month Only! |
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"silver_18038" wrote in message ... I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? -- silver_18038 Perhaps it wasn't a 10" saw when it left the store. They sold quite a few 9" saws as well. I don't know how old my Craftsman is, but it does have a repulsion induction motor which was discontinued in 1953. I mention this fact because there is ample room between the top of a 10" blade and the saw table. And, my saw will only accept a 1/8" insert. Jim |
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:36:58 +0100, silver_18038
wrote: I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? I'd check out what you can BUY, first.. I just bought 2 for my Ridgid/Craftsman TS for about $20 or $25 each from Lee Valley... Ok, they lied to me about them fitting my say, but I got them to work.. *g* Even if you make your own, check out the pictures of the factory made ones.. For one thing, you'll notice that they come as "left or right" cut... Why? They have the slot started for you, so that you can install it over the lowered blade and then raise the blade... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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mac davis wrote:
I'd check out what you can BUY, first.. I just bought 2 for my Ridgid/Craftsman TS for about $20 or $25 each from Lee Valley... Ok, they lied to me about them fitting my say, but I got them to work.. *g* I'll bet I can crank out 10-12 of them in the amount of time it took to get yours to work! G http://www.bburke.com/images/545_zci_w_splitter.jpg The first one takes all the time, the rest of the stack takes just a few minutes. I've got 'em made for common bevel cuts, different dado widths, etc... Some even have glued-in splitters. Weird plate thickness? Rout a rabbet all the way around the bottom edge, to set the insert slightly below the surface, and bring it back up with leveling set screws. As Swingman said, use a single dado end blade to make the initial cut, if necessary. They're not furniture, no need to get fancy, just whip 'em out. |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:00:18 GMT, B A R R Y wrote:
mac davis wrote: I'd check out what you can BUY, first.. I just bought 2 for my Ridgid/Craftsman TS for about $20 or $25 each from Lee Valley... Ok, they lied to me about them fitting my say, but I got them to work.. *g* I'll bet I can crank out 10-12 of them in the amount of time it took to get yours to work! G http://www.bburke.com/images/545_zci_w_splitter.jpg The first one takes all the time, the rest of the stack takes just a few minutes. I've got 'em made for common bevel cuts, different dado widths, etc... Some even have glued-in splitters. Weird plate thickness? Rout a rabbet all the way around the bottom edge, to set the insert slightly below the surface, and bring it back up with leveling set screws. As Swingman said, use a single dado end blade to make the initial cut, if necessary. They're not furniture, no need to get fancy, just whip 'em out. You probably could, Barry... because you're done them before and know what you're doing... You probably have a source for hi-tech slippy-slidy material for it near you.. I wanted it NOW for a new TS and didn't want to design and make one with whatever materials I found lying out in the desert... I'm learning the TS to improve my turning... I really don't want to take time off from turning to reinvent the wheel to save a few bucks.. I needed 2.. zero tolerance, which I could probably live without, and dado, which I figured might save a finger someday... If I ever need one for a bevel cut, after I learn what that is and if I have a need for it, I'll decide to build one.. Though I also love building jigs and stuff, I'm not interested enough in the saw to build one to save $40... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:33:05 -0700, mac davis
wrote: You probably could, Barry... because you're done them before and know what you're doing... You probably have a source for hi-tech slippy-slidy material for it near you.. What material? My inserts are waxed plywood. --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:53:07 GMT, B A R R Y wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:33:05 -0700, mac davis wrote: You probably could, Barry... because you're done them before and know what you're doing... You probably have a source for hi-tech slippy-slidy material for it near you.. What material? My inserts are waxed plywood. --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- Cool.. I can get plywood in Mexicali.. Only 3 hours away.. It would/wood only cost about 15 gallons of gas and half a day to save a few bucks by making my own.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:33:05 -0700, mac davis
wrote: Though I also love building jigs and stuff, I'm not interested enough in the saw to build one to save $40... Understood. I just wanted to make the point about duplication for the lurkers. NEVER make ONE of a cheap, useful item while the stuff is set up. G --------------------------------------------- ** http://www.bburke.com/woodworking.html ** --------------------------------------------- |
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"silver_18038" wrote in message ... I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? Some table saw book I read had this procedure. 1. Carpet tape the new insert to the old, carefully aligning. 2. Put the old insert in the table saw. The new will be "standing proud." 3. Clamp a 2x4 over the inserts, covering them completely. 4. Start the saw and slowly raise the blade. This makes the initial cut on the new insert. -- Mark |
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silver_18038 wrote: I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? -- silver_18038 Here's what I do: Put the stock insert in the saw; Lift up one end so it is slightly raised above the table. Bring the fence over til it just touches the raised insert. Lock the fence in this position. Raise the operator end of the stock insert slightly above the table, and clamp a block of wood to the fence that is just touching the front of the insert. Drop the insert into place. Put the new ZCI on top of the stock insert, with it's front end touching the block of wood. Clamp a second block to the fence on top of the ZCI. Hold the ZCI in place with a push block, start the saw, raise the blade, & cut the slot. -- Make it as simple as possible, but no simpler. Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org |
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"silver_18038" wrote in message I have an older Craftsman table saw and I want to make some zero clearance table inserts out of some 1/4" MDF. The problem I have is that the top of the 10" blade is almost even with the top of the table. How does one get to install the insert without killing himself? Buy a cheap 8" blade to make an initial cut and if necessary, with the 10" blade installed but not turning, hand cut some width of the initial cut to allow the top of the 10" blade to protrude. Then it's only a matter of turning the saw on and completing the cut. |
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