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Need advice on hammerdrill - Christmas present for husband
Hi,
My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne |
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If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is
awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. WL "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne |
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Wilson wrote:
If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. WL "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne Hilti should pop up on that list as well since they are pretty much the best of the best. Rather overkill for home use though. Makita also has a decent hammer drill. I'd tend to avoid cordless for several good reasons: 1) A hammer drill is an infrequently used tool for home use. Batteries tend to die if they aren't used regularly. 2) Cordless costs a lot more and provides little benefit unless you are a contractor doing a big commercial job. 3) Corded models are lighter and generally more powerful. Pete C. (Yes, I have a Hilti hammer drill (TM7SVSR) for home use, but I'm nuts) |
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Jeanne wrote:
I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. Pick one, you won't go wrong. SFWIW, I had a standard 1/2", 18VDC, DeWalt Drill that saw a lot of service in the 10 years before it was stolen. Had to replace the batteries, but that was it. Lew |
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Jeanne wrote: Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I never had Milwaukee, but very familiar with Porter Cable and Dewalt, got a bosch hammer dril a few years ago, corded heavy duty Bull Dog for about $200 which is good for heavy use and not for shop at all. If he is using for Shop, I would get a 18V Bosch, I have two 14V not hummer and love them, quick recharch and lots of power. 18V HD would be the best I would buy. But you do not go wrong with Porter-Cable and or Makita (I say makita because I like it more than other names like Milwaukee and DeWalt). Good Lock MaxEN I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne |
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Jeanne wrote:
Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I've owned the Milwaukee 18 volt hammer drill for about two and a half years or so. So far, no problems with the batteries.... it recharges FAST and seems to hold a charge for a very long time. I have no doubt your husband would be very pleased to find one of these under his tree at Christmas: http://www.toolsforless.com/product/53.html $239 for the kit with the drill, two batteries, rapid charger and carrying case. You may find it cheaper somewhere else... I don't know. At the time I bought mine, this was as good a deal as I could find on or offline. Delivery was pretty quick, too. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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I have the MIlwaukee version and recently upgraded to the V18 LiOn batteries
and love it. Plenty of power for home use. If it is for work, I would recommend the Hilti. Allen "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne |
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2) should be even better. Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that the batteries are interchangeable. Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be fine. As far as places to buy go, http://www.coastaltool.com is a very reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store that also runs an internet business). |
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"J. Clarke" wrote:
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2) should be even better. Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that the batteries are interchangeable. Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be fine. As far as places to buy go, http://www.coastaltool.com is a very reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store that also runs an internet business). Second the recommendation for Coastal Tool, an excellent place. I used to work fairly close to their store (both the old one with no parking and the new one) and it was a frequent stop when I went out to lunch (I'm now 1,700 miles away). In fact I just got a couple gift certificates from them for holiday presents to send to friends. Pete C. |
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For Jeannie's edification; A hammer drill is one that can be switched from
a normal drill that rotates the drill bit to one that in addition to rotating the drill bit also moves the bit in and out a bit. This is helpful when drilling through concrete and the like. Don Dando "Pete C." wrote in message ... "J. Clarke" wrote: On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2) should be even better. Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that the batteries are interchangeable. Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be fine. As far as places to buy go, http://www.coastaltool.com is a very reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store that also runs an internet business). Second the recommendation for Coastal Tool, an excellent place. I used to work fairly close to their store (both the old one with no parking and the new one) and it was a frequent stop when I went out to lunch (I'm now 1,700 miles away). In fact I just got a couple gift certificates from them for holiday presents to send to friends. Pete C. |
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Wilson wrote:
If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne |
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J. Clarke wrote:
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:22:35 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). I've got one of the first deWalt 18v hammerdrills and it's lovely. It's one of the few tools that I can recommend to someone completely without reservation. The newer ones with the 3 speed gearboxes (mine has 2) should be even better. Big question--does he have other 18v cordless tools--if so then if there's no reason to do otherwise it's best to buy into the same system so that the batteries are interchangeable. Ah. Good point. I'll check. Among the dewalts the 925KA is the current model that I'd go for but if you find a good deal on a 988KA which is last year's model it should be fine. As far as places to buy go, http://www.coastaltool.com is a very reliable source for portable power tools (they're a brick and mortar store that also runs an internet business). |
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How about a box with a home made coupon for whatever he wants.
He's probably be excited if you offered to go with him to get it. Trying to guess is always a trial and puts both people in a bind, unless he will tell you what he wants. WL "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne |
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:16:47 -0500, Jeanne
wrote: Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne If I can assume that what he wants is a fairly heavy duty cordless drill with the hammer feature (as opposed to a dedicated hammerdrill), then I can recommend the DeWalt 18V RXP unit for home shop use. I am also sure that the others mentioned would be great for this use. Just so you know, what I am talking about is a cordless drill with a setting that turns the hammer feature on or off as needed and would mostly be used for regular drilling and screw driving and periodically used for heavy work in masonry, etc. with the hammer feature. If he already owns a cordless drill or two and really wants a dedicated hammerdrill that will be heavily used, then I can't give you any advice other than the maintenance guys at work "demand" Hilti drills for that kind of stuff and for core drilling - big $$$$$. Dave Hall |
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On Dec 6, 7:16 am, Jeanne wrote: I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). I have a corded Bosch hammer drill that I got for about $160 a few years ago at Sears. It is perfect for home shop work - not too big, plenty of power, inexpensive. I agree with the earlier post saying that a hammer drill is not the best candidate for cordless. A Hammer Drill usually isn't used all that often, and when it is used, you want all the power you can get. On the other hand, if your husband already has a few cordless tools with batteries bigger than 14 volts, then it would make sense to get the same brand/battery size as the existing tools so that the batteries and charger can be shared. This would make for an even better gift, because he'd have a new tool, AND extra batteries for tools he already has. Mike |
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Dave Hall wrote in
: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:16:47 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne If I can assume that what he wants is a fairly heavy duty cordless drill with the hammer feature (as opposed to a dedicated hammerdrill), then I can recommend the DeWalt 18V RXP unit for home shop use. I am also sure that the others mentioned would be great for this use. Just so you know, what I am talking about is a cordless drill with a setting that turns the hammer feature on or off as needed and would mostly be used for regular drilling and screw driving and periodically used for heavy work in masonry, etc. with the hammer feature. If he already owns a cordless drill or two and really wants a dedicated hammerdrill that will be heavily used, then I can't give you any advice other than the maintenance guys at work "demand" Hilti drills for that kind of stuff and for core drilling - big $$$$$. Dave Hall Impact driver is what I think you were trying to describe, Dave. I started to respond when Jeanne first posted, then backed off. All I know about is the impact driver. I have a 12v Bosch, and like it al lot. Used it quite a bit in assembling the kitchen I'm building for my daugher-in-law, as well as a lot of other places. Drives screws reliably and fast, without serious wear and tear on the shoulder and elbows. Not too heavy, and not too hard on the Visa card, either. http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-23612-Impactor-12-Volt- Cordless/dp/B0002VAFUC If this isn't what he wants, I apologize to all. Patriarch |
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"Peter Huebner" wrote in message t... In article , says... Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch. Wouldn't buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my needs, that is). Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4 inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill? On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still works very well. I inherited it from my Dad. gw |
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On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
"Peter Huebner" wrote in message t... In article , says... Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch. Wouldn't buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my needs, that is). Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4 inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill? On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still works very well. I inherited it from my Dad. What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one of these things? http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341? If so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill. I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill holes. As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:47:56 -0600, Patriarch
wrote: Dave Hall wrote in : On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 07:16:47 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne If I can assume that what he wants is a fairly heavy duty cordless drill with the hammer feature (as opposed to a dedicated hammerdrill), then I can recommend the DeWalt 18V RXP unit for home shop use. I am also sure that the others mentioned would be great for this use. Just so you know, what I am talking about is a cordless drill with a setting that turns the hammer feature on or off as needed and would mostly be used for regular drilling and screw driving and periodically used for heavy work in masonry, etc. with the hammer feature. If he already owns a cordless drill or two and really wants a dedicated hammerdrill that will be heavily used, then I can't give you any advice other than the maintenance guys at work "demand" Hilti drills for that kind of stuff and for core drilling - big $$$$$. Dave Hall Impact driver is what I think you were trying to describe, Dave. I started to respond when Jeanne first posted, then backed off. All I know about is the impact driver. I have a 12v Bosch, and like it al lot. Used it quite a bit in assembling the kitchen I'm building for my daugher-in-law, as well as a lot of other places. Drives screws reliably and fast, without serious wear and tear on the shoulder and elbows. Not too heavy, and not too hard on the Visa card, either. http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-23612-Impactor-12-Volt- Cordless/dp/B0002VAFUC If this isn't what he wants, I apologize to all. Patriarch No, I am talking a hammer drill. My DeWalt 18 v. has a hammer drill setting, but is seldom used as such. The clutch has the normal low to high settings, the drill setting and the hammer setting. If you only have one decent sized cordless and little (but some) need for hammer drill capabilities, this is a nice setup. If you are hammer drilling on a regular basis, get a dedicated hammer drill (corded in my opinion), but for my use this drill fits my overall needs. Impact drivers, as far as I know, are great for driving screws and bolts in heavy duty situations like deck building. I have never used an impact driver other than a pneumatic for lug nuts. Core drills are another thing altogether given the lubrication needs while drilling and the wetness of their world. Dave Hall |
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I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more
recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave "Jeanne" wrote in message . .. Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html |
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P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just
hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block all. --dave "Dave Jackson" wrote in message ink.net... I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave "Jeanne" wrote in message . .. Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html |
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Hi Jeanne I have several battery hammerdrills ( 18v
Milwaukee, 14.4v Porter cable, 36v Hilti) . The battery hammerdrills are OK for a few holes (1/4", 3/8" ) in concrete that hasn't cured for too many years. If he has a project that requires drilling a lot of holes or larger diameter holes then he'll need a corded hammerdrill or rotary hammer(bigger). SDS type of chuck works great. This type of drill is rated to about 1" drills max.. If I have to drill more than a couple of 1/4" holes in older concrete I use the corded type SDS chuck rotary hammer. If he only wants to drill an few 1/4" holes and will use the drill most of the time for wood, metal, and as a screw driver the smaller battery hammerdrills are OK. Jack |
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On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:32:24 +0000, Dave Jackson wrote:
P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block all. --dave I suspect that that's gross overkill unless he's building a Usonian house or something. "Dave Jackson" wrote in message ink.net... I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave "Jeanne" wrote in message . .. Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote: "Peter Huebner" wrote in message t... In article , says... Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch. Wouldn't buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my needs, that is). Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4 inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill? On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still works very well. I inherited it from my Dad. What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one of these things? http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341? If so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill. I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill holes. As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) The url you provided is exactly as I described. It will do 3x as much work as a standard battery drill. Check it out. I've been using battery drills since they've been invented, and the impact drill fits the bill for all battery drilling. Use one once and you'll buy it. Why so cranky? GW |
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"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote: "Peter Huebner" wrote in message t... In article , says... Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch. Wouldn't buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my needs, that is). Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4 inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill? On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still works very well. I inherited it from my Dad. What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one of these things? http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341? If so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill. I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill holes. As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot ne In addition, I used to use star drills when I was working as a kid. That makes me very old. Go easy on me. I'm just happy to be here talking with you. gw |
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:25:41 -0500, Gwidman wrote:
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:21:55 -0500, Gwidman wrote: "Peter Huebner" wrote in message t... In article , says... Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I'd also like to throw the name Metabo into the discussion. Metabo make *excellent* drills and hammerdrills, corded and cordless. I've had Metabo corded (hammer)drills for 32 years now and they've all been top notch. Wouldn't buy anything else. (Considering that a Hilti would be over the top for my needs, that is). Not meaning to hijack this thread, but last year I switched all my drilling operations to cordless impact drills. I have a Dewalt and a Ryobi, and I love them equally. They get used every day. My question is: has anybody tried hammerdrilling with them? The chucks of impact drills only hold 1/4 inch hex drills or bits, but I haven't seen any cement bits other than round, making it impossible to chuck in impact drills. Anybody have any experience with trying to drill in cement with an impact drill? On topic, I have a very old Skil hammerdrill that I just happened to need to use last week. It's 20+ years old and has been used lightly, but it still works very well. I inherited it from my Dad. What in the name of God is an "impact drill"? Are you talking about one of these things? http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=6341? If so, that's not a drill and is not sold as a drill and the manufacturer makes no assertion that it is usable as a drill. I suppose if you put a hex-shank drill bit in it it will drill holes but I can't imagine tossing a purpose-made drill to use one of those to drill holes. As to using it on concrete, Sears has some hex-shank masonry bits that should fit, but I'd be very surprised if it worked very well--a hammer drill hammers on the end of the bit--torque is not the issue. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) The url you provided is exactly as I described. It will do 3x as much work as a standard battery drill. Check it out. I've been using battery drills since they've been invented, and the impact drill fits the bill for all battery drilling. Use one once and you'll buy it. Why so cranky? If you liked that URL check out _this_ one. http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/dewalt/dw056k-2.htm?L+coastest+knfb3654ff7b3f7b+1165679669 DeWalt has a rebate on their 18v impact driver. The rebate is an 18v hammerdrill. I've never seen an impact wrench as an alternative to a drill. I know that others use it this way, I consider it to be misusing the tool. I've used impact drivers. The one time in my life that I've missed one was when I had a flat tire on a car with wheel locks that someone had put on with an impact driver. There was just no way they were coming off with the standard lug wrench. I've never felt any desire for one working with wood, although I suppose if I was building decks or docks or something for a living I'd find it to be handy. -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Dave Jackson wrote:
P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block all. --dave So, if he had to (hypothetically, of course) chip away part of a concrete patio (the part that is blocking a hypothetical window well), this would do it? Thanks, Jeanne "Dave Jackson" wrote in message ink.net... I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave "Jeanne" wrote in message . .. Wilson wrote: If he is putting anchors in concrete, the Porter Cable corded one is awesome, but way too much for general use in the shop. Tell us more. W Thanks. I knew Porter Cable was overkill (and pricey) for what my husband does (home shop) - that's why I didn't mention PC (or Makita). Jeanne "Jeanne" wrote in message news Hi, My husband asked for a hammerdrill for Christmas. I had never even heard of one before he mentioned the word(s?). I've tried to do some research but as usual, there are way too many suspects even within one single brand. I think I'm looking for a cordless 18 volt hammerdrill. Certainly no larger. The three names that keep popping up are DeWalt, Bosch, and Milwaukee. I welcome any suggestions for specific models and where to buy them (online if necessary). TIA, Jeanne I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html |
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Dave Jackson wrote:
I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave Dave, May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded) rotary hammer (like this: http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tool...54915&I=67521). Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me. Thanks, Jeanne |
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
Dave Jackson wrote: I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave Dave, May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded) rotary hammer (like this: http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tool...54915&I=67521). Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me. Bulldog is not cordless. If he wants a cordless SDS hammer then look at http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/bosch/11536vsr.htm?L+coastest+hsvj0109ff7e6c7e+116571884 4, http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/a/dewalt/dw005k-2.htm?L+coastest+hsvj0109ff7e6c7e+1165718844, or for some other brands froogle "sds cordless hammer". Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway. The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that only fit rotary hammers. Thanks, Jeanne -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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J. Clarke wrote:
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Dave Jackson wrote: I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave Dave, May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded) rotary hammer (like this: http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tool...54915&I=67521). Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me. Bulldog is not cordless. Understood. When I read that corded hammerdrills probably made more sense, I asked my husband if he minded a corded one. He said no, he realized having the cordless traded away too much power and usability for his needs. Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway. Understood. The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that only fit rotary hammers. Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like the rotary hammer is a better tool for that. Thanks Jeanne |
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On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:56:11 -0500, Jeanne wrote:
J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Dave Jackson wrote: I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave Dave, May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded) rotary hammer (like this: http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tool...54915&I=67521). Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me. Bulldog is not cordless. Understood. When I read that corded hammerdrills probably made more sense, I asked my husband if he minded a corded one. He said no, he realized having the cordless traded away too much power and usability for his needs. Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway. Understood. The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that only fit rotary hammers. Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like the rotary hammer is a better tool for that. That sounds more like a job for a breaker hammer. Never had occasion to bust up concrete myself so can't really say how much tool is enough, but suspect you're in the realm where rental will make more sense than buying. Thanks Jeanne -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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snip Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like the rotary hammer is a better tool for that. For a job like that I'd rent an electric chipping hammer such as this: http://www.envisupply.com/rentals/su...Jackhammer.htm -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA |
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Dave Jackson wrote:
P.S. One other nice thing about the Bulldog is it can be set to just hammer, and not drill. A chisel can be purchased that will fit in the drill basically making it into a small jack hammer. This feature will come in very handy if the hubby ever wants to demolish a brick or block all. --dave Technically the hammer only feature differentiates that unit as a "rotary hammer" and not a "hammer drill". A rotary hammer is another step up on the heavy duty scale from a hammer drill. Pete C. |
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"J. Clarke" wrote:
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:56:11 -0500, Jeanne wrote: J. Clarke wrote: On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:43:39 -0500, Jeanne wrote: Dave Jackson wrote: I've have both 18volt Dewalt and Bosch cordless hammer drills and more recently purchased a Bosch bulldog corded hammer drill. The cordless ones cannot compare to the Bulldog, it will drill and can drive anchors in concrete with little effort, and quickly. The bits for the bulldog are SDS shanks which means they won't fit in a conventional drill. The bulldog is for production drilling in concrete pretty much exclusively. However, if your hubby just needs a hammerdrill for occasional drilling and driving anchors in concrete, the cordless ones will be just fine. They will take a little longer to get the job done, but are more versatile in they can also be used with regular bits to drill wood, metal etc. The Bosch bulldog is somewhat less expensive than the big 18volt cordless models too. --dave Dave, May I have the model name and number of the Bosch Bulldog? When I read your PS to my husband, he said that was what he wanted. When I tried searching for Bosch Bulldog, I got the Bosch Bulldog Xtreme (corded) rotary hammer (like this: http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tool...54915&I=67521). Obviously, power tools have their own jargon and the distinction between a rotary hammer and a hammer drill is too fine for me. Bulldog is not cordless. Understood. When I read that corded hammerdrills probably made more sense, I asked my husband if he minded a corded one. He said no, he realized having the cordless traded away too much power and usability for his needs. Cordless rotary hammers aren't cheap, not good ones anyway. Understood. The difference between a hammerdrill and a rotary hammer is that a hammerdrill is a carpentry tool--it will make good-sized holes in wood and in sheet metal and occasionally small ones in concrete all day, the sort of thing one does when building houses and wood-frame commercial buildings. A rotary hammer is a heavy construction tool, it will make big holes in concrete and structural steel all day, using special bits that only fit rotary hammers. Oh good. That sounds like what he wants. The previous owner of our house covered up the window wells when the back patio was poured. We want to get rid of the concrete over the window wells. It sounds like the rotary hammer is a better tool for that. That sounds more like a job for a breaker hammer. Never had occasion to bust up concrete myself so can't really say how much tool is enough, but suspect you're in the realm where rental will make more sense than buying. I'd think the best option for that would be a masonry blade in an angle grinder to make a clean cut line a good inch deep to isolate the to be removed section from the remaining patio. At that point just a sledge should be able to break up the to be removed material. A hammer drill or rotary hammer really aren't applicable (except for a very big rotary hammer) and a breaker is just over kill to break up a few square feet of patio slab. Pete C. |
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