My present(s) to myself arrive today via Fed Ex Home on saturday
delivery...

Although I have a plane or two that will benefit from the nifty Mark II
that will relegate my Mark I to the corner, the real impressive piece
was the heft of that new 24" steel straight edge they sell!

Also I almost sprang for a Starrett, it would not be as thick and is
nearly 2X the price.

Most impressive piece of steel.. Now if they would make them in longer
lengths too!

Alan

arw01 wrote:
My present(s) to myself arrive today via Fed Ex Home on saturday
delivery...

Although I have a plane or two that will benefit from the nifty Mark II
that will relegate my Mark I to the corner, the real impressive piece
was the heft of that new 24" steel straight edge they sell!

Also I almost sprang for a Starrett, it would not be as thick and is
nearly 2X the price.

Most impressive piece of steel.. Now if they would make them in longer
lengths too!

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=12676310

1/4" x 1-1/2" x 36", with decent tolerances, pre-hardened, ground steel
(4142) stock (brake die.)

Not cheap (you might do better elsewhere than enco), but not bad.

er
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I was just wondering. Are thier tools made in the USA? Last I knew
Starrett still is. And thats a good thing.

I haven't been to an Enco in quite some years but, in the 80s and early 90s,
Enco was what Harbor Freight is now though all their stuff was Indian and
Taiwanese.

"Enoch Root" wrote in message
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arw01 wrote:
My present(s) to myself arrive today via Fed Ex Home on saturday
delivery...

Although I have a plane or two that will benefit from the nifty Mark II
that will relegate my Mark I to the corner, the real impressive piece
was the heft of that new 24" steel straight edge they sell!

Also I almost sprang for a Starrett, it would not be as thick and is
nearly 2X the price.

Most impressive piece of steel.. Now if they would make them in longer
lengths too!


http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=12676310

1/4" x 1-1/2" x 36", with decent tolerances, pre-hardened, ground steel
(4142) stock (brake die.)

Not cheap (you might do better elsewhere than enco), but not bad.

er
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CW wrote:
"Enoch Root" wrote in message
...

arw01 wrote:

My present(s) to myself arrive today via Fed Ex Home on saturday
delivery...

Although I have a plane or two that will benefit from the nifty Mark II
that will relegate my Mark I to the corner, the real impressive piece
was the heft of that new 24" steel straight edge they sell!

Also I almost sprang for a Starrett, it would not be as thick and is
nearly 2X the price.

Most impressive piece of steel.. Now if they would make them in longer
lengths too!


http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=12676310

1/4" x 1-1/2" x 36", with decent tolerances, pre-hardened, ground steel
(4142) stock (brake die.)

Not cheap (you might do better elsewhere than enco), but not bad.

I haven't been to an Enco in quite some years but, in the 80s and
early 90s, Enco was what Harbor Freight is now though all their
stuff was Indian and Taiwanese.

Enco does sell cheap drill bits, but they also sell good ones. The
steel flat stock they sell is either Starrett steel or US made, and it's
good stuff.

But like I implied, I aint married to enco, and you can probably beat
the price elsewhere (or get the Starrett precision ground low-carbon
stock instead).

er
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For a straight edge I think the first question you need to ask is just how
straight do you need it? If for instance if you could live with it being
out of straight by .005 in 3 feet you might be able to find that in an off
the shelf piece of cold rolled steel. If you needed it more precise than
that, you might be able to get the edge ground.

Do you really need it hardened? If not the plain steel is probably going to
do you just fine. Do you even need steel? If all you are doing is drawing
straight lines or checking a piece of lumber, you can get a piece of
aluminum, set your jointer to shave off .005" or so and dress the edge your
self. If you ever drop it and bugger the edge you can always flatten it
again.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?


"Enoch Root" wrote in message
...
arw01 wrote:
My present(s) to myself arrive today via Fed Ex Home on saturday
delivery...

Although I have a plane or two that will benefit from the nifty Mark II
that will relegate my Mark I to the corner, the real impressive piece
was the heft of that new 24" steel straight edge they sell!

Also I almost sprang for a Starrett, it would not be as thick and is
nearly 2X the price.

Most impressive piece of steel.. Now if they would make them in longer
lengths too!


http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=12676310

1/4" x 1-1/2" x 36", with decent tolerances, pre-hardened, ground steel
(4142) stock (brake die.)

Not cheap (you might do better elsewhere than enco), but not bad.

er
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Roger Shoaf wrote:
For a straight edge I think the first question you need to ask is just how
straight do you need it? If for instance if you could live with it being
out of straight by .005 in 3 feet you might be able to find that in an off
the shelf piece of cold rolled steel. If you needed it more precise than
that, you might be able to get the edge ground.

Do you really need it hardened? If not the plain steel is probably going to
do you just fine. Do you even need steel? If all you are doing is drawing
straight lines or checking a piece of lumber, you can get a piece of
aluminum, set your jointer to shave off .005" or so and dress the edge your
self. If you ever drop it and bugger the edge you can always flatten it
again.

All true. Or you can buy specified stock and not worry yourself with
questions.

er
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I was just wondering. Are thier tools made in the USA? Last I knew
Starrett still is. And thats a good thing.

MOST of Starrett still is. But they too have a factory (supposedly
their own) in China. Anything that says "Gobal Series" is made in
Chaiwan.

I can't vouch for the quality of their overseas stuff, but I will say
the quality of their American stuff is plumetting. Just bought a set
of their 12" Yankeee dividers. At $43 a pop, you would think the legs
would have been straight.

But you would have been wrong.

Same goes for a tape measure I bought from them. It advertised a
Chrome case. I suppose there was chrome in the paint covering the
****ty flimsy plastic, but make no mistake about it...it was still
****ty flimsy plastic. My girlfriend even looked at it and said "what
a piece of ****."

Disappointing their case was not metal. I've been wanting a metal
Starrett tape measure, will have to check them inside the package to
see if a magnet will stick before I spend the money.

Alan

"arw01" wrote in message
oups.com...
Disappointing their case was not metal. I've been wanting a metal
Starrett tape measure, will have to check them inside the package to
see if a magnet will stick before I spend the money.


Most metal tape measure cases would be die cast zinc alloy and those would
not interact with a magnet. Plastic can be a good, or even a superior
material in many instances.

BTW Starrett bought out Lufkin so these kinds of products are the old L
Lufkin designs with a Starrett sticker on them.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?

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"arw01" wrote in message

Disappointing their case was not metal. I've been wanting a metal
Starrett tape measure, will have to check them inside the package to
see if a magnet will stick before I spend the money.


Most metal tape measure cases would be die cast zinc alloy and those would
not interact with a magnet. Plastic can be a good, or even a superior
material in many instances.

BTW Starrett bought out Lufkin so these kinds of products are the old L
Lufkin designs with a Starrett sticker on them.

The only thing from LV I've been disappointed with thus far is their tape
measures I have.

I have three LV "Cabinetmaker's" tape measures and they all exhibit the same
behavior - their 'hooks' lift/slip off the workpiece more than slightly
during extension, making for erratic measurements of at least a 1/16", or
more depending upon length.

Probably not fair to bring it up in a public forum since I basically decided
to chalk it up to experience and went back to my usual Stanley twelve
footers, but I have wondered if I just have a bad run of three, or if anyone
else has noticed this?

Just looking at the way they're made, it appears to me that a fix would
involve a slightly longer hook, with the edges not quite so finished/rounded
off, and with just a touch more angle to it.

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"Swingman" wrote in message

Just looking at the way they're made, it appears to me that a fix would
involve a slightly longer hook, with the edges not quite so
finished/rounded
off, and with just a touch more angle to it.

Did you mention it to LV's customer service? At the very least, a call to
them might possibly result in an improved hook. I don't know if they
manufacture them or they're just an agent for the real manufacturer, but a
comment couldn't hurt.

No thanks, if it was a big enough deal to be worth the time to me I'd have
already done so. The above is the only comment I'm going to go out of my way
to make, and that was solely due to a spur-of-the moment, early morning,
topical opportunity.

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On Sat, 06 May 2006 16:59:40 -0700, Enoch Root
wrote:

arw01 wrote:
My present(s) to myself arrive today via Fed Ex Home on saturday
delivery...

Although I have a plane or two that will benefit from the nifty Mark II
that will relegate my Mark I to the corner, the real impressive piece
was the heft of that new 24" steel straight edge they sell!

Also I almost sprang for a Starrett, it would not be as thick and is
nearly 2X the price.

Most impressive piece of steel.. Now if they would make them in longer
lengths too!

http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=12676310

1/4" x 1-1/2" x 36", with decent tolerances, pre-hardened, ground steel
(4142) stock (brake die.)

Not cheap (you might do better elsewhere than enco), but not bad.

er

I don't think the advertised tolerances necessarily imply that the
stock is straight, It could be bent in an arc with a 4-foot radius
and still meet the specifications (with the possible exception of the
"squareness" tolerance, however that is measured). There is no
specification that I can see for flatness.

Regards,
Ed