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Ebay prices crack me up!
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Boeshield-T-9-Ru...QQcmdZViewItem Boeshield:$8 current bid. shipping $8. what's wrong with this picture? I just ordered some for $12 with NO shipping from a boat supplier. Tee hee! dave |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
yea, the shipping scame is pretty common, and cheap as hell.
If i see a seller who is going nuts with the shipping, i always send them an email asking them if they made a mistake and mean 5.00 for shipping instead of 50.00, etc etc, or something along those lines to try and **** them off. |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
If i see a seller who is going nuts with the shipping, i always send them an email asking them if they made a mistake and mean 5.00 for shipping instead of 50.00, etc etc, or something along those lines to try and **** them off. I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Beats the heck out of me why they complain, when all they have to do is bid accordingly, or not bid at all. One guy won the auction and then demanded I reduce the shipping; like he is somehow special. I told him to forget about it and I sold it to the next bidder. |
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:04:53 GMT, "Toller" wrote:
I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Well, why don't you break it down altogether: $6 house payment, $2 mortgage interest, $3.50 gas, 75¢ electricity, 50¢ tape, etc. Those are all rents that should be in the base price of the product, just like the raw materials and the machinery is to a manufacturer. It's unethical, in my opinion to break out a separate (additional) charge for "handling" when that cost should be a part of the cost of the product. It represents pure profit, so far as I'm concerned, just like extended warranties, just because someone wants to maintain a price point to make a sale. It belongs in the price. Beats the heck out of me why they complain, when all they have to do is bid accordingly, or not bid at all. No problem. I won't be bidding on yours. I sure do retain the right to bitch about it, though. -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
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"LRod" wrote in message ... On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:04:53 GMT, "Toller" wrote: I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Well, why don't you break it down altogether: $6 house payment, $2 mortgage interest, $3.50 gas, 75¢ electricity, 50¢ tape, etc. Those are all rents that should be in the base price of the product, just like the raw materials and the machinery is to a manufacturer. like the phone company? $7 for this fee, $3.75 for that fee, ad inifinitum, when all the fees are is part of the base charge anyway. It's unethical, in my opinion to break out a separate (additional) charge for "handling" when that cost should be a part of the cost of the product. It represents pure profit, so far as I'm concerned, just like extended warranties, just because someone wants to maintain a price point to make a sale. It belongs in the price. Beats the heck out of me why they complain, when all they have to do is bid accordingly, or not bid at all. No problem. I won't be bidding on yours. I sure do retain the right to bitch about it, though. -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
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"LRod" wrote in message ... On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:04:53 GMT, "Toller" wrote: I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Charge what ever you want for shipping an handling! Just be up front about it and I will decide if the total price is in line. I refuse to bid if the shipping and handling is not shown. My neighbor "won" an auction on Ebay lately. He sent an e-mail for a request for shipping charges before he bid. After the bid was done the seller sent him a e-mail for the total, with shipping, and HANDLING! The shipping was as quoted, but the added handling charge was more than the shipping. It was a small item, but with all the charges it was more than he would have wanted bid/pay for the item. Greg |
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"Greg O" wrote:
"LRod" wrote in message ... On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:04:53 GMT, "Toller" wrote: I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Charge what ever you want for shipping an handling! Just be up front about it and I will decide if the total price is in line. I refuse to bid if the shipping and handling is not shown. My neighbor "won" an auction on Ebay lately. He sent an e-mail for a request for shipping charges before he bid. After the bid was done the seller sent him a e-mail for the total, with shipping, and HANDLING! The shipping was as quoted, but the added handling charge was more than the shipping. It was a small item, but with all the charges it was more than he would have wanted bid/pay for the item. Greg I always ask for shipping And handling, though frequently I'll pass an auction that does not quote S&H or provide a calculator. |
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Greg O wrote:
Charge what ever you want for shipping an handling! Just be up front about it and I will decide if the total price is in line. I refuse to bid if the shipping and handling is not shown. My neighbor "won" an auction on Ebay lately. He sent an e-mail for a request for shipping charges before he bid. After the bid was done the seller sent him a e-mail for the total, with shipping, and HANDLING! The shipping was as quoted, but the added handling charge was more than the shipping. It was a small item, but with all the charges it was more than he would have wanted bid/pay for the item. I agree, if the S/H charges are listed, or seller states he won't charge a handling fee, it's possible to figure out what your max bid will be. It's a feature. Can any sellers say whether Ebay charges extra to have the shipping calculator on your page? er -- email not valid |
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"LRod" wrote in message
... On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:04:53 GMT, "Toller" wrote: I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Well, why don't you break it down altogether: $6 house payment, $2 mortgage interest, $3.50 gas, 75¢ electricity, 50¢ tape, etc. Those are all rents that should be in the base price of the product, just like the raw materials and the machinery is to a manufacturer. It's unethical, in my opinion to break out a separate (additional) charge for "handling" when that cost should be a part of the cost of the product. It represents pure profit, so far as I'm concerned, just like extended warranties, just because someone wants to maintain a price point to make a sale. It belongs in the price. Well, it's a little harder to build the price in on an auction. Since the seller doesn't know what the final price will be, it makes sense for the shipping and handling to be factored in by the buyer. I think it's different for a seller who auctions something here and there than it is for an established business who actually knows their fixed and variable costs and can factor them into the sales price. For me, I take the actual shipping cost and throw in $2 for supplies. I don't think it's unethical to break out a handling cost. What I think is unethical is one of the other stories in this thread where the bidder asked for the shipping cost prior to bidding and then when the auction is over a handling charge is sneaked in. todd |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:11:47 -0600, "todd" wrote:
Well, it's a little harder to build the price in on an auction. Since the seller doesn't know what the final price will be, it makes sense for the shipping and handling to be factored in by the buyer. I think it's different for a seller who auctions something here and there than it is for an established business who actually knows their fixed and variable costs and can factor them into the sales price. For me, I take the actual shipping cost and throw in $2 for supplies. I don't think it's unethical to break out a handling cost. What I think is unethical is one of the other stories in this thread where the bidder asked for the shipping cost prior to bidding and then when the auction is over a handling charge is sneaked in. The seller doesn't know what the price of the product is? Of course they do, they bought it and are now trying to sell it! If it costs them $10, then they should set the minimum bid no lower than $10. If they know it's going to cost them an additional $2 for shipping supplies, then they should set the minimum bid no lower than $12. The problem is that these people are setting their minimum bids at $1, then charging $30 for shipping because they want to make up the profit for their item without having eBay charge them fees for it. If the auction goes to $20 and they charge $30 shipping, then they make $50 on the deal, rather than if the item went for $20 and they charged what it actually cost to ship, which might be $5. In the end, shipping isn't supposed to be a way to make a profit, it's supposed to be a way to get the product to a customer. |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
"It's unethical, in my opinion to break out a separate (additional)
charge for "handling" when that cost should be a part of the cost of the product." That is idiotic for a number of reasons. There is absolutely NOTHING unethical about charging a fee for a necessary service as long as the fee is disclosed in advance. It is also not a "scam." Only a moron believes they are scammed when they are told that shipping costs $x.xx if they buy something. Simple math will prove that $19 for a product + $1 for shipping = $20 just like is $15 for a product + $5 for shipping = $20. Now maybe some people are fooled by the difference and feel a whole lot better and I'm certain the advertisers just love having those kind of folks around. However the rest of us don't much care about anything more than the all-in cost of $20, because that's what we are paying. If you had ever shipped anything you would know that it costs money to buy packing tape, boxes and bubble wrap. People get really ****ed off when the stuff they bought arrives damaged because it wasn't properly packaged. "I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping." The only jerkoff is the one who can't clearly see that they are paying $45 for a $20 item and go ahead and make the purchase. "Don't your customers have to "handle" it too? " Yes they do. And they are more then welcome to bill themselves for their trouble. |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
A.M. Wood wrote: "I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping." The only jerkoff is the one who can't clearly see that they are paying $45 for a $20 item and go ahead and make the purchase. In my case I won't buy from any seller who has to resort to that kind of tactic because it screams "DON'T TRUST THIS PERSON". If a traditional store with an on-line service can deliver a washing machine for $30, why do some ebay sellers require the same amount for an item that will fit in your mail box? We know that ratings and feedback on ebay are no longer credible guides to a buyer/seller's integrity. Common sense has to rule. From now on whenevr I see one of these obvious overcharges, the seller is going to get a pointed comment which will also be copied in to ebay. FoggyTown |
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A.M. Wood wrote:
There is absolutely NOTHING unethical about charging a fee for a necessary service as long as the fee is disclosed in advance. We all have our own ideas about what is ethical and what exactly is a necessary service I suppose. To me it's a simple matter. To me sellers that offer a low low price and make up for it with very high and mandatory "shipping & handling" charges are unethical and of low character... and buyer be very aware. You know who you are and you know full well that what you are doing is wrong. My opinion. |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
Every buy something from a traditional retailer or catalog warehouse then
have it shipped? There is usually a shipping AND handling charge. Are these merchants being unethical? "LRod" wrote in message ... On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:04:53 GMT, "Toller" wrote: I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Well, why don't you break it down altogether: $6 house payment, $2 mortgage interest, $3.50 gas, 75¢ electricity, 50¢ tape, etc. Those are all rents that should be in the base price of the product, just like the raw materials and the machinery is to a manufacturer. It's unethical, in my opinion to break out a separate (additional) charge for "handling" when that cost should be a part of the cost of the product. It represents pure profit, so far as I'm concerned, just like extended warranties, just because someone wants to maintain a price point to make a sale. It belongs in the price. Beats the heck out of me why they complain, when all they have to do is bid accordingly, or not bid at all. No problem. I won't be bidding on yours. I sure do retain the right to bitch about it, though. -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
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"Roger amd Missy Behnke" wrote in message
... Every buy something from a traditional retailer or catalog warehouse then have it shipped? There is usually a shipping AND handling charge. Are these merchants being unethical? They can be, depending on how they do it. I have no problem with a shipping and handling charge but they can be used in a bogus manor. In the case of these EBay sellers, many of them are using the S&H charge to both rip off PayPal and EBay as well as fool the buyer into thinking they are getting the item for less money. Another problem with this crap that may not apply to EBay so much but could happen is screwing you if you return it. You buy an interesting widget for the unbelievably low price of $19.99 but it has a $200 S&H charge. You the buyer reasons (like many in here have) as this thing is easily worth the $220 combined cost, probably more like $300 and it has a money back guarantee so who cares how the price is laid out. So you order it and it shows up a week later in perfect condition but it proves to be both an advertising scam and a piece of junk. No problem you say, it has a guarantee and send it back for your refund. The seller of course honors his commitment and sends you back a refund check ....... for $19.99. Hey, wait a minute, it cost you far more than that and you call the seller to get this corrected. His response is... I'm sorry Sir, but you paid $19.99 for the product which we fully refunded, the $200 was payment for our excellent shipping and handling service and is not refundable. -- If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
Don't your customers have to "handle" it too? They have to take
delivery (sometimes that means picking it up from UPS, USPS, etc.), unpack it, and dispose of the packing materials. Why can't you take your effort into account in the selling price? Toller wrote: I've gotten a number of complaints like that because I (like everyone else on eBay) charge about $5 handling. It takes time to pack it up and ship it. Beats the heck out of me why they complain, when all they have to do is bid accordingly, or not bid at all. One guy won the auction and then demanded I reduce the shipping; like he is somehow special. I told him to forget about it and I sold it to the next bidder. |
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wow - my S/H woes got more responses than I expected - no time to read
through them all "_ Anyway, im not bitching about the person who charges a couple bucks handling fees - it makes sense and is fine to offset the cost/gas of going to the post office, time spent foing so, etc. My complaint was soley for the people (and there are plenty of these on EBay) who try to hook you with a an item thats: - Worth around $50.00 - Auction is listed for $10.00 - And hope people wont notice the $75.00 shipping and handling fee. |
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oups.com... wow - my S/H woes got more responses than I expected - no time to read through them all "_ Anyway, im not bitching about the person who charges a couple bucks handling fees - it makes sense and is fine to offset the cost/gas of going to the post office, time spent foing so, etc. My complaint was soley for the people (and there are plenty of these on EBay) who try to hook you with a an item thats: - Worth around $50.00 - Auction is listed for $10.00 - And hope people wont notice the $75.00 shipping and handling fee. Before Christmas, I was hoping to buy my wife a new computer chair. I checked Staples, Office Max and local stores, and found a couple that looked good, and were low cost. For giggles, I checked EBay. Yeah, right. Same chairs, 1/3 the price, and the shipping charge was almost exactly what Staples et. al. charge for the chair itself. I didn't see any bids on that one, and I sure didn't make a bid. |
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yea, the shipping scame is pretty common, and cheap as hell. If i see a seller who is going nuts with the shipping, i always send them an email asking them if they made a mistake and mean 5.00 for shipping instead of 50.00, etc etc, or something along those lines to try and **** them off. I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. Joe Barta |
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My brother in law bought a bicycle on ebay with a really high shipping and handling price (even for a bicycle). The only thing was he was from the same city as the seller and he told him he would pick it up. The seller demanded he have it shipped, my BIL said no, so the seller refused to go thru with the sale.
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toolmiser writes:
My brother in law bought a bicycle on ebay with a really high shipping and handling price (even for a bicycle). The only thing was he was from the same city as the seller and he told him he would pick it up. The seller demanded he have it shipped, my BIL said no, so the seller refused to go thru with the sale. I was looking at Dell computers on Ebay before Christmas and saw lots of good prices. But, the price became ripoffs when shipping of $75 to $100 was added. I ended up buying from the Dell Outlet. One seller even had a different price listed for local pickup that was like $50 higher than the regular Buy It Now price. He was basically adding on the profit he normally makes on shipping. Brian Elfert |
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"toolmiser" wrote in message ... My brother in law bought a bicycle on ebay with a really high shipping and handling price (even for a bicycle). The only thing was he was from the same city as the seller and he told him he would pick it up. The seller demanded he have it shipped, my BIL said no, so the seller refused to go thru with the sale. Unless the seller says he allows pickups, you are required to ask before bidding if you want to pick up. A number of people have refused to allow pickups or charged a handling charge. I asked first, so I didn't bid, and now filter their listings out. No big problem. I have never refused a pick up, though it has just happened once. It is easier than shipping, and worth forgoing my $5 handling charge. Obviously other sellers don't feel that way, but they have the right to run their auction any way they want, as long as they conform to eBay requirements. Your BIL deserves a negative feedback for backing out of a purchase; though I expect the seller just let it go because it wasn't worth the hassle. |
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Joe Barta writes:
I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. I know guys who sold Xbox 360s at huge profits on Ebay before Christmas. They charged $40 to $50 shipping and justified it as covering shipping, Ebay, and Paypal fees. The 50% to 100% profit they made couldn't cover the Ebay and Paypal fees?? Shipping fees should cover the cost to get something to me, not be a huge profit margin for the seller. Some sellers sell stuff for 1 cent and charge $19.95 shipping to get around Ebay fees as Ebay doesn't charge their cut on shipping. Brian Elfert |
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Brian Elfert wrote:
Shipping fees should cover the cost to get something to me, not be a huge profit margin for the seller. Some sellers sell stuff for 1 cent and charge $19.95 shipping to get around Ebay fees as Ebay doesn't charge their cut on shipping. Why doesn't e-bay go after them? I see a lot of this and it is blatently obvious that they are avoiding the e-bay fees. |
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Lobby Dosser wrote:
Brian Elfert wrote: Shipping fees should cover the cost to get something to me, not be a huge profit margin for the seller. Some sellers sell stuff for 1 cent and charge $19.95 shipping to get around Ebay fees as Ebay doesn't charge their cut on shipping. Why doesn't e-bay go after them? I see a lot of this and it is blatently obvious that they are avoiding the e-bay fees. I never thought of that. I've sold stuff on ebay and I use Paypal.. the fees for both are pretty low. But I suppose if you sell a lot of stuff and start with a nearly full retail price, those fees might add up. I'm sure ebay is aware of this and either they don't care, or they'll do something about it eventually. Capitalism... gotta love it :-) Joe Barta |
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"Brian Elfert" wrote in message ... Joe Barta writes: I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. I know guys who sold Xbox 360s at huge profits on Ebay before Christmas. They charged $40 to $50 shipping and justified it as covering shipping, Ebay, and Paypal fees. The 50% to 100% profit they made couldn't cover the Ebay and Paypal fees?? It is against one's user agreement with PayPal to "charge back" PayPal fees. Shipping fees should cover the cost to get something to me, not be a huge profit margin for the seller. Some sellers sell stuff for 1 cent and charge $19.95 shipping to get around Ebay fees as Ebay doesn't charge their cut on shipping. That's also contrary to eBay policy. I don't know why they don't crack down on it, since it's money out of their pocket. Brian Elfert todd |
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Shipping fees should cover the cost to get something to me, not be a huge
profit margin for the seller. Some sellers sell stuff for 1 cent and charge $19.95 shipping to get around Ebay fees as Ebay doesn't charge their cut on shipping. That's also contrary to eBay policy. I don't know why they don't crack down on it, since it's money out of their pocket. Hundred of thousands of auctions. Not sure how they could monitor such things on an item by item level without any complaints. They may do some sampling, however. |
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"todd" writes:
They charged $40 to $50 shipping and justified it as covering shipping, Ebay, and Paypal fees. The 50% to 100% profit they made couldn't cover the Ebay and Paypal fees?? It is against one's user agreement with PayPal to "charge back" PayPal fees. They weren't/aren't chargin back the Paypal fees. They are just justifying inflated shipping by saying they need to cover the Paypal and Ebay fees. That's also contrary to eBay policy. I don't know why they don't crack down on it, since it's money out of their pocket. It may be against Ebay policy, but many sellers do it. There would probably be a seller rebellion if they started charging their cut on shipping as some sellers pass along true costs and some items cost hundreds to ship. Brian Elfert |
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:14:33 -0600, "todd" wrote:
It is against one's user agreement with PayPal to "charge back" PayPal fees. And you have to report it to PayPal and they'll do something about it. That's also contrary to eBay policy. I don't know why they don't crack down on it, since it's money out of their pocket. Part of the problem is that eBay doesn't have enough people to watch the auctions and catch all of this without being told about it, and the other is that eBay's claim to fame is having millions of auctions going on. If it starts going after a lot of the small-time cheats, etc. they wouldn't be able to claim that. If you take the time to report a violation to eBay, they will usually step in and stop it, but if you think they're going to go looking on their own, you're out of luck. |
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"Brian Elfert" wrote in message
... Joe Barta writes: I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. I know guys who sold Xbox 360s at huge profits on Ebay before Christmas. They charged $40 to $50 shipping and justified it as covering shipping, Ebay, and Paypal fees. The 50% to 100% profit they made couldn't cover the Ebay and Paypal fees?? Shipping fees should cover the cost to get something to me, not be a huge profit margin for the seller. Some sellers sell stuff for 1 cent and charge $19.95 shipping to get around Ebay fees as Ebay doesn't charge their cut on shipping. I got a friend to Ebay some old books for me, stuff I hadn't looked at in a decade or more, but that was useful and costly when bought and might be useful to others. Most sold for $1.50 or so. I listed a flat $5 shipping, no deals. Most cost $1.40 for postage and a buck for the envelope. I "made" $2 or so extra on each book because of the postage...but I had to address the envelopes, drive them into town and stand in line to ship the suckers. My decision: I'd rather throw the books away next time it happens. It's a PITA, got my buddy six or seven neutral feedbacks because of the shipping costs, and basically didn't bring in enough to cover the time and energy of entering the books on Ebay. |
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Charles Self wrote:
I got a friend to Ebay some old books for me, stuff I hadn't looked at in a decade or more, but that was useful and costly when bought and might be useful to others. Most sold for $1.50 or so. I listed a flat $5 shipping, no deals. Most cost $1.40 for postage and a buck for the envelope. I "made" $2 or so extra on each book because of the postage...but I had to address the envelopes, drive them into town and stand in line to ship the suckers. My decision: I'd rather throw the books away next time it happens. It's a PITA, got my buddy six or seven neutral feedbacks because of the shipping costs, and basically didn't bring in enough to cover the time and energy of entering the books on Ebay. I don't understand this. Why not start the bidding at $3.50 and charge a $2.50 S/H fee? er -- email not valid |
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Ebay prices crack me up!
there's also the bit about return policy. I bought an external drive
case- couple of bucks, 15 or so shipping. I thought, sleazy, but it adds up to the right amount, so I bought it. when it came, the case was badly sub-par quality. wouldn't recognize. the vendor's return policy was sale price refund only, and I have to pay shipping return. so I'd be paying $3 shipping to get a $2 refund. lesson learned. |
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"Joe Barta" wrote in message .. . wrote: yea, the shipping scame is pretty common, and cheap as hell. If i see a seller who is going nuts with the shipping, i always send them an email asking them if they made a mistake and mean 5.00 for shipping instead of 50.00, etc etc, or something along those lines to try and **** them off. I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. Geez, when you see an item you decide how much you want to pay for it; say $40. If shipping is $5 you bid $35. If shipping is $30 you bid $10. What is so damn hard about understanding that? And what is lame or dishonest about it? |
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"Toller" wrote:
"Joe Barta" wrote in message .. . wrote: yea, the shipping scame is pretty common, and cheap as hell. If i see a seller who is going nuts with the shipping, i always send them an email asking them if they made a mistake and mean 5.00 for shipping instead of 50.00, etc etc, or something along those lines to try and **** them off. I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. Geez, when you see an item you decide how much you want to pay for it; say $40. If shipping is $5 you bid $35. If shipping is $30 you bid $10. What is so damn hard about understanding that? And what is lame or dishonest about it? e-bay does not collect a fee on "shipping". Let's say the "true" shipping and handling cost is $10. If you charge $30, you get $20 that is not dinged with a fee. On another note, one technique I have found useful as a buyer is to query sellers for a 'best price to my doorstep'. I've used this technique when buying multiples of an item and usually query as many sellers as I can find selling the same or similar items. The seller then sets up a private auction for the agreed upon price. I have seen sellers load more than 50% of the quote into the shipping come auction time. |
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Toller wrote:
"Joe Barta" wrote in message .. . wrote: yea, the shipping scame is pretty common, and cheap as hell. If i see a seller who is going nuts with the shipping, i always send them an email asking them if they made a mistake and mean 5.00 for shipping instead of 50.00, etc etc, or something along those lines to try and **** them off. I have no use for jerkoffs that sell a $20 item for $5 then charge $40 for shipping. They might as well have tattooed on their forehead... "I'm a dishonest putz but I don't have the wit or the courage to be any good at it." I never buy anything from those types because you don't know what other lame surprises are in store for you. Geez, when you see an item you decide how much you want to pay for it; say $40. If shipping is $5 you bid $35. If shipping is $30 you bid $10. What is so damn hard about understanding that? I understand it perfectly. Confusion is not the problem. And what is lame or dishonest about it? So if I sold you a car for $100 and charged you a $15,000 delivery fee that wouldn't be lame? (and *of course* you can't pick it up dummy) If I sell you a tire for $5 but I charge $80 for mounting and balancing.... that's not dishonest? (and no, you can't mount it yourself sir... all tires come with mounting and balancing as a courtesty) Buy one widget for $10 and we'll throw in a second widget for FREE... just pay the shipping and handling (which happens to be $12.95... EACH) It's not at all difficult to understand.... and if YOU want to do business with folks that play these games, that's your option. But when you get bit in the ass by one of them, I hope you don't complain too loudly because this guy won't be feelin no sympathy! Joe Barta P.S. And if you think it's just okie dokie to skate past ebay's fees... if someone were to use a loophole to skate past paying YOU what you might otherwise be owed, I wonder if you'd think it was perfectly ok. |
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And what is lame or dishonest about it? So if I sold you a car for $100 and charged you a $15,000 delivery fee that wouldn't be lame? (and *of course* you can't pick it up dummy) Okay, the car costs $15,100. Is that lame or dishonest? Seems perfectly honest and straight forward to me. And who said you can't pick it up? I sold a large piece of exercise equipment on Ebay. For anyone wanting it shipped I charged "the actual freight cost plus $50 handling" The buyer paid $355 for the machine, $50 for handling, and $65 for freight. The buyer knew the story before bidding and was delighted with her bargain. I didn't bother to figure out in advance what the shipping would be, because I assumed the buyer would be local and pick it up. Then there would be no freight and no handling. Was I lame or dishonest? If I sell you a tire for $5 but I charge $80 for mounting and balancing.... that's not dishonest? (and no, you can't mount it yourself sir... all tires come with mounting and balancing as a courtesty) Well, lets see. The tire costs $85. And that is dishonest how? It's not at all difficult to understand.... and if YOU want to do business with folks that play these games, that's your option. But when you get bit in the ass by one of them, I hope you don't complain too loudly because this guy won't be feelin no sympathy! How could I get bit when the cost is known to me before I bid? If I am too stupid or lazy to add in the shipping before bidding then I certainly deserve what I get. Joe Barta P.S. And if you think it's just okie dokie to skate past ebay's fees... if someone were to use a loophole to skate past paying YOU what you might otherwise be owed, I wonder if you'd think it was perfectly ok. Ebay doesn't seem to have a problem with people charging handling; they would just charge commission on the entire transaction rather than just the product if they cared. Why on earth do you? Or are you just trolling on this and I bit? |
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And what should I bid to the guy that was selling labels for my Dymo
Labelwriter for $9.99 and was charging $25 flat rate for shipment to Canada? |
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oups.com... And what should I bid to the guy that was selling labels for my Dymo Labelwriter for $9.99 and was charging $25 flat rate for shipment to Canada? I don't know what those labels cost in a store, but I'd say you shouldn't bid if the combined price bothers you. |
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