I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps. I have a dado blade but don't know if it could make a
deep enough cut, and I wanted to avoid doing it all with my jig saw.
Any ideas?

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I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps. I have a dado blade but don't know if it could make a
deep enough cut, and I wanted to avoid doing it all with my jig saw.
Any ideas?


It might help if you were to tell us just what you have in terms of tools to
make the cuts.

Two thoughts come to mind when looking at that picture.

One is that the individual shelves are each supported by a wood angle
underneath. You could just construct each shelf individually and put some
kind of common board on the back to brace/support it. Make sure everything
is glued and fastened well and it would provide adequate strength for the
clamps. You would essentially be putting this whole thing together from a
number of component parts.

The other idea is to go ahead and make the top piece out of one piece of
plywood. But drill a big hole with a hole saw towards the back. Then cut
to meet the hole with a regular saw. You could do this on the table saw,
radial arm saw, miter saw, circular saw, etc. And if a small peice is still
there holding the wood together, then use your jigsaw.

Good point about tools. I have a pretty full shop minus a bandsaw.
Which as I write this would be a easy way to do it. After I posted
this, I did get the idea like you mentioned of drilling out the end of
the slots with a Forster bit and then completing the cut with either
the Table saw or jig saw.

I have about 12-15 clamps I need to store (for now) so I'm not sure if
that justifies making a router template.

It sounds like you're thinking the rack should be a shelf with notches
cut out, like the horizontal piece is all one board. why? Why not
cross cut all the pieces so that they're separate, then attach them to
the clete separately? If you're worried about strength, you could put
a piece of 1x1 across the top of all the boards to tie them together.

brian

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I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
Any ideas?

Here is a plan for the Bessys in my shop.
http://www.teamcasa.org/workshop/images/ClampRack.jpg
http://www.teamcasa.org/workshop/images/shop_09.jpg

Simple, Strong and easy to make.

Dave




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brianlanning wrote:
It sounds like you're thinking the rack should be a shelf with notches
cut out, like the horizontal piece is all one board. why? Why not
cross cut all the pieces so that they're separate, then attach them to
the clete separately?

Because that is a logical & simple solution?


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"brianlanning" wrote in message
ups.com...
It sounds like you're thinking the rack should be a shelf with notches
cut out, like the horizontal piece is all one board. why? Why not
cross cut all the pieces so that they're separate, then attach them to
the clete separately? If you're worried about strength, you could put
a piece of 1x1 across the top of all the boards to tie them together.

brian

No, no no. It must be far, far more complicated than that. It must involve
at least every tool in the shop, preferably twice. And at least a coupla'
trips to the hardware store. And maybe two trips to the lumber yard. It
should have inlays, dovetails, wedged through tenons (with ebony wedges, of
course) and a nice mixture of stainless, brass and brushed aluminum
hardware. Finish should be french polish, nothing else will do.

Yeesh!

-Tim

(Whose clamp rack is 1x2 strips nailed across the studs)

And you could always do what I did, because I was in a bit of a hurry.
A 4 foot 2x4, two pieces 3 1/2 inch long of the same 2x4 for spacers,
and glue/screw the thing on the wall in a good location. Strong
enough, I had the piece of 2x4, and the clamps come off, go on, with
enough ease to actually use the thing.

If it's too complicated, expensive, or whatever, the clamps will sit on
your bench, adorn a garbage can lip, or just get in the way.

Oh, if you have a lot of clamps, use a 6 foot 2x4.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Rich


Tim and Steph wrote:
"brianlanning" wrote in message
ups.com...
It sounds like you're thinking the rack should be a shelf with notches
cut out, like the horizontal piece is all one board. why? Why not
cross cut all the pieces so that they're separate, then attach them to
the clete separately? If you're worried about strength, you could put
a piece of 1x1 across the top of all the boards to tie them together.

brian

No, no no. It must be far, far more complicated than that. It must involve
at least every tool in the shop, preferably twice. And at least a coupla'
trips to the hardware store. And maybe two trips to the lumber yard. It
should have inlays, dovetails, wedged through tenons (with ebony wedges, of
course) and a nice mixture of stainless, brass and brushed aluminum
hardware. Finish should be french polish, nothing else will do.

Yeesh!

-Tim

(Whose clamp rack is 1x2 strips nailed across the studs)

On 3 Jan 2006 12:30:17 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
quickly quoth:

I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps. I have a dado blade but don't know if it could make a
deep enough cut, and I wanted to avoid doing it all with my jig saw.
Any ideas?

I made the A-frame style so the clamps just hang onto the angled
"ladder" sides. With a framed box on the bottom, I can store my
C-clamps and wooden clamps, too.


--
If you turn the United States on its side,
everything loose will fall to California.
--Frank Lloyd Wright

On 3 Jan 2006 18:01:43 -0800, "rich" wrote:

And you could always do what I did, because I was in a bit of a hurry.
A 4 foot 2x4, two pieces 3 1/2 inch long of the same 2x4 for spacers,
and glue/screw the thing on the wall in a good location.

I use a 1x2 with a back piece that will screw into the wall joists. I
simply clamp the clamps onto the 1x2, and loosen off as needed. They
don't need to be clamped really tight, just a couple of easy quarter
turns after running the bottom part up to secure to the wood.
Slightly fussy for one or two, but I have a few seconds to spare.

Tim and Steph wrote:

(Whose clamp rack is 1x2 strips nailed across the studs)

Hey! Mine is too. I thought that was an original idea :-(

Yeah, few feet of 1x2 and a hammer and BAM... groovy clamp rack ;-)

I always raised an eyebrow at those woodworkers that spend most of
their time making kewl stuff for their woodshop.

"Tim and Steph" wrote:

"brianlanning" wrote in message
ups.com...
It sounds like you're thinking the rack should be a shelf with
notches cut out, like the horizontal piece is all one board. why?
Why not cross cut all the pieces so that they're separate, then
attach them to the clete separately? If you're worried about
strength, you could put a piece of 1x1 across the top of all the
boards to tie them together.

brian

No, no no. It must be far, far more complicated than that. It must
involve at least every tool in the shop, preferably twice. And at
least a coupla' trips to the hardware store. And maybe two trips to
the lumber yard. It should have inlays, dovetails, wedged through
tenons (with ebony wedges, of course) and a nice mixture of stainless,
brass and brushed aluminum hardware. Finish should be french polish,
nothing else will do.

You did forget that it Must Require the purchase of a new tool. Perhaps a
Bandsaw, as the OP did mention he does not own one.


Yeesh!

-Tim

(Whose clamp rack is 1x2 strips nailed across the studs)

wrote:

Good point about tools. I have a pretty full shop minus a bandsaw.
Which as I write this would be a easy way to do it. After I posted
this, I did get the idea like you mentioned of drilling out the end of
the slots with a Forster bit and then completing the cut with either
the Table saw or jig saw.

I have about 12-15 clamps I need to store (for now) so I'm not sure if
that justifies making a router template.


What a Wonderful Excuse to buy a bandsaw!!

You did forget that it Must Require the purchase of a new tool. Perhaps a
Bandsaw, as the OP did mention he does not own one.

Slaps forehead, shakes head in disgust...

Wow! I am slipping! Jeez. Thanks for covering for me!

wrote:
I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps.

Drill holes at the back of each slot with a forstner bit. Use whatever
saw you have to remove the side waste.

Barry

FYI
Check out the space saving mobile clamp cart in the February 2006 edition of
Workbench magazine. It looks like a neat unit to build and doesn't take a
lot of high priced material to make. It's going to be my next project.


"B a r r y" wrote in message
m...
wrote:
I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps.

Drill holes at the back of each slot with a forstner bit. Use whatever
saw you have to remove the side waste.

Barry

Wed, Jan 4, 2006, 4:14am (EST+5) (Joe*Barta) puzzedly
mumbles:
snip I always raised an eyebrow at those woodworkers that spend most
of their time making kewl stuff for their woodshop.

I don't much go that route either, but every once in awhile it's
fun to make some very fancy gadget, made just to hang some cheape tool,
or whatever, on, in the shop.

What puzzles me is the guys who ask these very basic questions,
that 20 sec of thought on the throne, or just asking their mother, would
give the answer.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

Tim and Steph wrote:
"brianlanning" wrote in message
ups.com...
It sounds like you're thinking the rack should be a shelf with notches
cut out, like the horizontal piece is all one board. why? Why not
cross cut all the pieces so that they're separate, then attach them to
the clete separately? If you're worried about strength, you could put
a piece of 1x1 across the top of all the boards to tie them together.

brian

No, no no. It must be far, far more complicated than that. It must involve
at least every tool in the shop, preferably twice. And at least a coupla'
trips to the hardware store. And maybe two trips to the lumber yard. It
should have inlays, dovetails, wedged through tenons (with ebony wedges, of
course) and a nice mixture of stainless, brass and brushed aluminum
hardware. Finish should be french polish, nothing else will do.

Yeesh!

-Tim

(Whose clamp rack is 1x2 strips nailed across the studs)

Why do you guys keep building clamp racks? I thought every shop had
them built in. Isn't that what those two long track-like things that
come up from the side of that big door that never gets opened are for?
My clamps hang from just one of them, but that is because I haven't
built up a reasonably modest collection of Bessies or Jorgies yet, just
8 or so of them and 10 or 12 pipe and bar clamps. I haven't yet found a
good way of using these built-in clamp racks to hold the C's, the
wooden screw clamps or the picture frame clamps yet and, while most of
my longer quick-grips are on the rack, they are a little too high for
the smaller ones ... but what do you want for clamp racks built into
the shop before it was even a shop. I have been trying to remember what
this room was before it became my shop so that I can understand why
those clamp racks were put there, but it escapes me. Maybe my wife can
remind me after she comes in from scraping the ice off of her
windshield....

Dave Hall

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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Why do you guys keep building clamp racks? I thought every shop had
them built in. Isn't that what those two long track-like things that
come up from the side of that big door that never gets opened are for?

Never gets opened??? How do you get the '51 Dodge that you just got done
painting, out of the woodshop then?

My clamps hang from just one of them,

How do you keep from getting overspray on them when you're painting all of
the small pieces?

I haven't yet found a
good way of using these built-in clamp racks to hold the C's, the
wooden screw clamps or the picture frame clamps yet and,

Isn't that what the big shiney flat surface on the table saw is for?


--

-Mike-

Mike Marlow wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
ups.com...



Why do you guys keep building clamp racks? I thought every shop had
them built in. Isn't that what those two long track-like things that
come up from the side of that big door that never gets opened are for?

Never gets opened??? How do you get the '51 Dodge that you just got done
painting, out of the woodshop then?

Well, I would probably just pick it up to carry it to my grandson's
matchbox track ;-)


My clamps hang from just one of them,

How do you keep from getting overspray on them when you're painting all of
the small pieces?

Ahhh, they are just clamps.

I haven't yet found a
good way of using these built-in clamp racks to hold the C's, the
wooden screw clamps or the picture frame clamps yet and,

Isn't that what the big shiney flat surface on the table saw is for?

--

-Mike-

J T wrote:

What puzzles me is the guys who ask these very basic questions,
that 20 sec of thought on the throne, or just asking their mother,
would give the answer.

Call me a crabby old ****, but I suspect that many of these basic
questions are for projects that never get beyond the "I was thinking
of..." and "how do I..." stage.

Not directed at the OP because he did have several clamps and you
probably wouldn't have several clamps unless you've actually built a
few things. Actually I'd say the number of clamps one has is probably
a good barometer of how much woodworking actually gets beyond that
"thinking of" stage... and that rusty pair of C-clamps on the shelf
don't count. Now... if those two rusty C-clamps are hanging on their
own nifty glued and screwed smartly labeled plywood clamp holder...

I have been trying to remember what
this room was before it became my shop so that I can understand why
those clamp racks were put there, but it escapes me.

In these parts (Northern Vermont, close to the Canadian border), it's called
a "garage", and it's pronounced "Ga-rarj". Note that there's an extra R in
there. It's an Algonquin word that means "place that you put your tools in
and park your car in front of". The flatlanders (non-natives, Jeff), god
bless 'em, actually put their cars INSIDE this space (no, really!), and as
such have to store their clamps on fancy clamp racks.

I don't much go that route either, but every once in awhile it's
fun to make some very fancy gadget, made just to hang some cheape tool,
or whatever, on, in the shop.

That's true. I've built some goofy jigs over the years, just because.
Sometimes, you just have to do a complicated solution.

What puzzles me is the guys who ask these very basic questions,
that 20 sec of thought on the throne, or just asking their mother, would
give the answer.

Well, if you're new to the game, you (or, I do, anyway) have a tendency to
seek answers, just to make sure you're not missing something basic.


Nice Granny quote, BTW!

Actually I'd say the number of clamps one has is probably
a good barometer of how much woodworking actually gets beyond that
"thinking of" stage...

Or how tolerant your respective SWMBOs are of your rust hunting...

Tim and Steph wrote:

Actually I'd say the number of clamps one has is probably
a good barometer of how much woodworking actually gets beyond that
"thinking of" stage...

Or how tolerant your respective SWMBOs are of your rust hunting...



Mine's not always so tolerant... but I straighten her ass out damn
quick ;-)

Or how tolerant your respective SWMBOs are of your rust hunting...



Mine's not always so tolerant... but I straighten her ass out damn
quick ;-)

Lotta clamps come in handy for that?

Tim and Steph wrote:

Or how tolerant your respective SWMBOs are of your rust hunting...



Mine's not always so tolerant... but I straighten her ass out damn
quick ;-)

Lotta clamps come in handy for that?



Clamps and a roll of duct tape. Seriously though, been divorced for a
few years now so you can see I'm probably not someone you'd want
'handlin women' advice from (unless you want them handled out the
door). I did learn that straightening out women works very well in
theory. In practice... well... let's say there are a few kinks.

Thu, Jan 5, 2006, 12:51am (EST+5) (Joe*Barta) who wants
to be called names, doth sayeth:
Call me a crabby old ****, but I suspect that many of these basic
questions are for projects that never get beyond the "I was thinking
of..." and "how do I..." stage.
Not directed at the OP because he did have several clamps and you
probably wouldn't have several clamps unless you've actually built a few
things. Actually I'd say the number of clamps one has is probably a good
barometer of how much woodworking actually gets beyond that "thinking
of" stage... snip

Oh, I don't know. I know of people who have a whole shop full of
tools, and haven't used a one.

My belief is, that a lot of these guys just want someone else to do
their thinking for them. Their first implulse is to ask someone how to
do whatever. Either that, or they are so lacking confidence in their
abilities, they think they can't do it on their own.

Apparently my background is radically different, because my first
impulse is always, "How can I do this myself?". I've got about 10
clamps in my living room, on a small stand I made for doing small jobs
in the house. Took about 3 seconds to decide that a bar along each side
would take clamps hanging from it. I suppose, if you worked at it, you
could make it more complicated, but it wouldn't work any better.
Designed the stand too, no steenkin' plans - all glued, no fasteners,
held together with clamps until the glue set - works fine. The only
prob is, I need to put it out in the shop, and make a more advanced
version for in the house. The design for that one will be worked out in
my mind, same as the first one.



JOAT
You'll never get anywhere if you believe what you "hear".
What do you "know"?
- Granny Weatherwax

wrote:
I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps. I have a dado blade but don't know if it could make a
deep enough cut, and I wanted to avoid doing it all with my jig saw.
Any ideas?

One comment: I started with clamp racks like the one you indicated and
when removing them, inevitably some would get yanked out along with the
one I was removing. I ended up building a rolling cart, very similar to
the one from New Yankee Workshop:
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207

If your set on the design you indicated, I built mine by cutting 1"
diameter holes into 3/4" plywood and then cutting slots from the board
edge to the hole. The slots hold the pipes. Then it's a matter of
securing them. Good luck.

~Mark.

Check out the MOBILE CLAMP CART in this months WorkBench magazine.

"Woody" wrote in message
...
wrote:
I want to make a clamp rack for my bar and bessy clamps. Looking for
something along these lines
http://www.shoptours.org/member2/jypipeclamp.jpg
I'm struggeling to figure out how to efficiently cut all the slots for
the clamps. I have a dado blade but don't know if it could make a
deep enough cut, and I wanted to avoid doing it all with my jig saw.
Any ideas?

One comment: I started with clamp racks like the one you indicated and
when removing them, inevitably some would get yanked out along with the
one I was removing. I ended up building a rolling cart, very similar to
the one from New Yankee Workshop:
http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0207

If your set on the design you indicated, I built mine by cutting 1"
diameter holes into 3/4" plywood and then cutting slots from the board
edge to the hole. The slots hold the pipes. Then it's a matter of securing
them. Good luck.

~Mark.