I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding capability.
Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several, but I keep blowing motor
bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.

TIA

Robatoy wrote:
I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding capability.
Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several, but I keep blowing motor
bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.


I have been using a Ryobi belt sander for several years. If you are
concerned about the long term viability of Ryobi, a nearly identical
sander is available from Bosch. It is a model 1274DVS. It is variable
speed and compact. Belt changing and tracking adjustments are quick
and simple.

As far as flatness is concerned, I have never quite understood the need
for precise flatness in a belt sander platen. I only use a belt sander
for coarse sanding.

One sander I would avoid is the Dewalt. I used one on a project at
church and found it to be a horrid design. It is hard to hold onto the
front of it without sanding your fingertips off. YMMV

Dick Durbin

I had the Ryobi and now have the Bosch. And, as a surprise to me, I
actually miss the Ryobi. The Bosch is fine, but the tensioning lever
flops about, and it's not the fit/finish I expected from a once-proud
name. This came after a VS Router battle I had. No Bosch for me. The
Ryobi served me w/o complaint for years until an alternate user sucked a
rag up and bent one of the spindles.

Olebiker wrote:
Robatoy wrote:

I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding capability.
Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several, but I keep blowing motor
bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.



I have been using a Ryobi belt sander for several years. If you are
concerned about the long term viability of Ryobi, a nearly identical
sander is available from Bosch. It is a model 1274DVS. It is variable
speed and compact. Belt changing and tracking adjustments are quick
and simple.

As far as flatness is concerned, I have never quite understood the need
for precise flatness in a belt sander platen. I only use a belt sander
for coarse sanding.

One sander I would avoid is the Dewalt. I used one on a project at
church and found it to be a horrid design. It is hard to hold onto the
front of it without sanding your fingertips off. YMMV

Dick Durbin

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding
capability.
Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several, but I keep blowing
motor
bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.

TIA

I know you said no PC - However, and as good as testimonial evidence is, I
offer this info. I have used a PC 363 4x24 for years, under rough
conditions. (Sanding stainless steel and wood.) and it has held up great.
This work killed my other brands. I will generally use the belt sander
first then finish flat sanding with the all to bitchen, PC505 1/4 sheet
sander.

Dave



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Olebiker wrote:

Robatoy wrote:

I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding capability.
Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several, but I keep blowing motor
bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.



I have been using a Ryobi belt sander for several years. If you are
concerned about the long term viability of Ryobi, a nearly identical
sander is available from Bosch. It is a model 1274DVS. It is variable
speed and compact. Belt changing and tracking adjustments are quick
and simple.

As far as flatness is concerned, I have never quite understood the need
for precise flatness in a belt sander platen. I only use a belt sander
for coarse sanding.

One sander I would avoid is the Dewalt. I used one on a project at
church and found it to be a horrid design. It is hard to hold onto the
front of it without sanding your fingertips off. YMMV

Dick Durbin



I second the Ryobi. I paid a lot more than they are selling for now, so
I'd consider the Ryobi a bargain deluxe. I've had mine for over 15
years or so and it works like the day I got it. It's very compact.
like the Bosch.

dave

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding
capability.
Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several, but I keep blowing
motor
bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

Don't get Sears. For mine, the manual says it takes a standard n x m belt,
but the one it needs is anything but standard. Your only choice is to buy
from Sears at inflated prices.

- Owen -

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.


Too much?? How much have all these other sanders cost?

I've also had a ryobi for about 15 years. Another good design feature
is that you can lay the sander on its back and turn it into a mini
stationary sander. You don't even have to clamp it down - it just stays
there. This configuration is great for shaping small pieces of wood.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

hylourgos wrote:


heard you the first time...and the second...and now the third!

Dave

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

Robatoy wrote:

I DAG-ed it. Not much real info.

Here's the 'need'. A 3 x 21 with variable speed and flush sanding
capability. Not cordless.. NOT a Porter Cable. (I have had several,
but I keep blowing motor bearings.)
I tried the new Ridgid, and it failed to be 'flat' enough.

What do you fine Wreckers use? Why do you like/dislike which ones?

The PC ChooChoo is too much money. Period.

TIA

I'll 4th or 5th on recommending the Ryobi. Just finished taking the high
spots off about 100 square feet of sub floor with mine. I've had it for
more than ten years and it gets a Lot of use - some of it more like abuse.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

I've really liked my Makita VS 3 x 21. When I was doing a small room
and didn't want to rent a drum sander, I went out and bought a cheap
B&D. That lasted for about 3 minutes. Oh, it spun the paper around, but
otherwise it was worthless. No power, wouldn't track correctly, motor
smelled like it would burn up any second, etc. After burning a couple
rolls of sandpaper in those 3 minutes, I took it back. The I read some
reviews, then tried out all the ones at both Borgs just to see how they
feel and sound. The Makita spoke to me, but the PC seemed OK too. I
didn't have the opportunity to try out the Bosch. But the Makita has
performed often for the last 7 years without a hiccup, it's been great.


H.

PS: one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better
brands.

Geeezz.... we get it HYLOURGOS. You like the damn sander. A lot.

I have this Hitachi sander and have used it for some time (years?) out
on the job:

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/tylertool/hitachi8.html

It has been dependable as hell, and has been used for everything from
sanding custom display cases to (literally) sanding concrete to cut
down uneven movement expansion cracks in a slab before installing
flooring. I have even used it with a 80 grit belt on it to resurface
metal plate before painting. Then blown out at the end of the day, it
is ready to go again for the next project. I have had it so long I
don't know where the dust bag is, because I never used except once or
twice. Can't say about dust collection.

But for a nifty little sander that is quiet I have used the Makita 9003
(?) and it seems like nice tool. It is easy on my nail
gun/saw/router/CMS ruined hearing (apparently the lack of noise is used
as a selling op on this tool) and has plenty of power for woodwork. It
is sturdy, lightweight, and seems to do a good job at flush sanding. I
don't have one, but one of my amigos does, and he swears by it. It is
a small sander for a 3X21, but with the right belts, like all these
*******s you can still quickly ruin any project. Doesn't seem heavy
enough to use as a utility surfacer like I use the Hitachi, but a nice
tool.

If that damn Hitachi would have the decency to quit so I could get off
my cheap ass and by another belt sander I think I would try that one.
I like the nifty side handle they have for this so you can get just a
little more control and reach.

Robert

In article . com,
wrote:

[ snipped Hiatchi endorsement]

After inadvertently getting stuck with a M12V Hitachi router, I have
become a believer. Hitachi can make nice tools. I went and bought
another. Aside from the fact that the M12V is low cost, it has a lot of
balls and doesn't want to break.
Nothing like it as far as plunge routers is concerned.... for me.
The accuracy of the locked-mode rivals any fixed base routers I own.
(Milwaukees).

Maybe I will give that Hitachi 3x21 SB75 belt sander a try.

"Geeezz.... we get it HYLOURGOS. You like the damn sander. A lot."

Calm down, it wasn't me. Trust me, I clicked on "post" but once. I've
taken the opportunity to remove the superfluous ones.

H.

No, you heard me only once, I have no idea how the second, third et al.
posts appeared (I clicked only once on "post"), but they're removed
now.

Deep breath...
H

On 8 Dec 2005 13:53:13 -0800, hylourgos wrote:
"Geeezz.... we get it HYLOURGOS. You like the damn sander. A lot."

Calm down, it wasn't me. Trust me, I clicked on "post" but once. I've
taken the opportunity to remove the superfluous ones.

Ah. About that...don't bother with cancel messages, very few ISPs
actually honor them. Decades ago the cancel messages were heavily
abused as a way for people to control what other people had posted, so
most ISPs don't honor control messages of that nature anymore.

Easier, and better, to just shrug it off. We've all done it, either
manually or due to flaky software.

Dave Hinz

"one thing I learned from reading reviews is that there's quite a
step up in quality and durability when you go beyond 3x21 in the better

brands. "

Could you or someone else expand on this?

I have always favored 3x21 for the belts being easily available.

Are the larger belts more expensive?

If one would go larger, which brand?

Thanks

TMT

I simply use Google Groups via the web, using OmniWeb on a Mac. On each
post, it has a "show options" link, under which is a "remove" link--but
only if it's your own post. In this thread, that one post I left
somehow turned into about 10 more, so I used "remove" for all except
one, and it seems to have succeeded, in Google Groups on my browser at
least. Are you saying that others who read it via a newsreader still
see my 10 or more identical posts?

H