I've been somewhat interested in the Bessey sale, but not interested enough
to buy one of the various packages. I don't like to buy sizes that I really
don't want just to get a good price. I found that Hartville Tool is selling
the clamps one at a time at the sale price. This was perfect. I wanted four
12" clamps. They are backordered right now, but expect new shipment in 2-3
weeks. I am willing to wait.

Bob

BillyBob wrote:
I've been somewhat interested in the Bessey sale, but not interested enough
to buy one of the various packages. I don't like to buy sizes that I really
don't want just to get a good price. I found that Hartville Tool is selling
the clamps one at a time at the sale price. This was perfect. I wanted four
12" clamps.

How do the 12" Besseys help you?

I could never get myself to pull the trigger on short K-Bodies. I love
the longer versions due to the low deflection beam, etc... that are
weaknesses of lighter clamps.

Convince me. G

Barry

"BillyBob" wrote in message
. net...
I've been somewhat interested in the Bessey sale, but not interested
enough
to buy one of the various packages. I don't like to buy sizes that I
really
don't want just to get a good price. I found that Hartville Tool is
selling
the clamps one at a time at the sale price. This was perfect. I wanted
four
12" clamps. They are backordered right now, but expect new shipment in
2-3
weeks. I am willing to wait.

Bob


Price and shipping are about the same as LV, plus they offer more kit
options, and individual clamp pricing .

However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping date
is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to believe
"supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not. It would
be a shame to miss such a good sale. I got mine from LV delivered in 4
days.
Gary

"Gary" do not wrote in message
...

Price and shipping are about the same as LV, plus they offer more kit
options, and individual clamp pricing .

However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping date
is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to
believe
"supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not. It
would
be a shame to miss such a good sale. I got mine from LV delivered in 4
days.

Gary, Lee Valley web page only offers sale prices on pre-packaged kits.
That's why I passed them by. Their price on individual 12" clamps is
$27.59. Hartville is $19.95.

Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I double-checked
with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.

Bob

"B a r r y" wrote in message
.. .

How do the 12" Besseys help you?

One of the first things I discovered about the K-bodies, outside of clamping
cabinets was that they worked in holding situations where it was a battle
to get my F-clamps to "sit still". I've got some Bessey F-clamps so they
are good quality. I constantly find myself using a 24" k-body for utility
situations, where 1 clamp will get the job done and it takes 2-3 F clamps
and a lot of aggravation. In most of these situations I could have gotten
by with a 6-8" clamp and its a pain to have that 24" handle sticking out.
Buying the 12" is a luxury I would not allow at full price. I think a lot of
people would use them if it weren't for the psychological block of paying
nearly $30 for "just" a 12" clamp.

Bob

"BillyBob" wrote in message
k.net...

"Gary" do not wrote in message
...

Price and shipping are about the same as LV, plus they offer more kit
options, and individual clamp pricing .

However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping
date
is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to
believe
"supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not. It
would
be a shame to miss such a good sale. I got mine from LV delivered in 4
days.

Gary, Lee Valley web page only offers sale prices on pre-packaged kits.
That's why I passed them by. Their price on individual 12" clamps is
$27.59. Hartville is $19.95.


Yes that is what I meant when I said "...plus they offer more kit options
(24X40's, w/or w/o blocks), and individual clamp pricing (12's, 24's, 40's,
50's, etc.)."



Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I
double-checked
with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.

Good for you!! I agree, being able to pick out the specific clamps you want
is better. I'm just leery when they say "while supplies lasts" and deliver
October 30. What's up with that? Do they have their "supplies" in a
warehouse and are waiting until October 30 to ship the all out on that date?
Or is their advertised prices just a come on, and they have very limited
"supplies". Call me cynical.

Gary

"Gary" do not wrote in message
...

Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I
double-checked
with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.

Good for you!! I agree, being able to pick out the specific clamps you
want
is better. I'm just leery when they say "while supplies lasts" and
deliver
October 30. What's up with that?

I really don't know. What is up is their reputation. I got an email that
said "Due to the high demand created by the 25th Bessey Anniversary Sale,
the clamps are currently on backorder. Our apologies for the delay. We do
expect our next shipment withing the next 2-3 weeks and will ship them out
for you asap after they arrive."

Nobody else that I could find would sell individual clamps so I have nothing
to lose. If they do not honor this order, they will permanently go on my "do
not buy" list and I will, of course, dutifully whine and moan about it in
here. Like many people here, when we order over the internet, we start with
Lee Valley. I'm sure that Robin Lee would clearly state that sometimes their
business conditions are such that they cannot compete or won't.

Bob

In article t,
BillyBob wrote:

"Gary" do not wrote in message
...

Hartville has already accepted my order at the sale price. I
double-checked
with them - its only a matter of delayed delivery - not a coin toss.

Good for you!! I agree, being able to pick out the specific clamps you
want
is better. I'm just leery when they say "while supplies lasts" and
deliver
October 30. What's up with that?

I really don't know. What is up is their reputation. I got an email that
said "Due to the high demand created by the 25th Bessey Anniversary Sale,
the clamps are currently on backorder. Our apologies for the delay. We do
expect our next shipment withing the next 2-3 weeks and will ship them out
for you asap after they arrive."

Nobody else that I could find would sell individual clamps so I have nothing
to lose. If they do not honor this order, they will permanently go on my "do
not buy" list and I will, of course, dutifully whine and moan about it in
here. Like many people here, when we order over the internet, we start with
Lee Valley. I'm sure that Robin Lee would clearly state that sometimes their
business conditions are such that they cannot compete or won't.

Bob

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the heads-up.

I was thinking that only LV & WCraft had some sort of deal.
I have ordered (router bits) from Hartville recently and have
been very satisfied with their service.

I think that this is a good time to expand (if not complete)
my Bessey "collection." I want to make one more clamp
buy before the end of the month. Gives me more to think
about.

I also find the 12 inchers very ueful - in some ways,
more so than larger sizes (clamping to bench etc).

Again, thanks.

Lou

"loutent" wrote in message
...

I also find the 12 inchers very ueful - in some ways,
more so than larger sizes (clamping to bench etc).

I've never used the 12", but I just knew they would be useful. You've made
me anxious to get them.

Bob

BillyBob wrote:
"B a r r y" wrote in message
.. .

How do the 12" Besseys help you?

One of the first things I discovered about the K-bodies, outside of clamping
cabinets was that they worked in holding situations where it was a battle
to get my F-clamps to "sit still". I've got some Bessey F-clamps so they
are good quality.

I have a mountain of "F" clamps. What do you mean by "sit still"? I
can see where the smaller K's would stand up on the bench, but usually
if I'm using a short clamp, it's not a big deal. This could simply be
differences in the projects we build.

I constantly find myself using a 24" k-body for utility
situations, where 1 clamp will get the job done and it takes 2-3 F clamps
and a lot of aggravation.

Me too. My 24 & 31 inch "K"'s are heavily used. I like the way they
stand up, stay square, don't mark the work, and don't flex.

Buying the 12" is a luxury I would not allow at full price. I think a lot of
people would use them if it weren't for the psychological block of paying
nearly $30 for "just" a 12" clamp.

Exactly. I get 12" Bessey "F" clamps locally for $8. I've even looked
at the lighter-duty, gray Bessey's (Uniclamps?), but I can't seem to
pull out the $16 to buy them.

I so want to buy some 12" K's... G

Thanks for the insight!
Barry

"Gary" do not writes:

However they all seem to be back ordered, and site says "Sale prices good
through October 31, 2005, or while supplies last." Earliest shipping date
is October 30. Since they can not ship immediately, I'm inclined to believe
"supplies" is gone. So you might get them but then you might not.

I talked to the local Woodcraft store. They sold hundreds in days.
But they are working with Bessey to honor all October sales.

I heard delivery is scheduled for December.
You might not get them until 2006, however...

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loutent writes:

I was thinking that only LV & WCraft had some sort of deal.
I have ordered (router bits) from Hartville recently and have
been very satisfied with their service.



Also check out Amazon (Grizzly).

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=507846

2x24" + 2x40" + 4 KP blocks = 119.95


At Woodcraft, this is $125.15+shipping


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Bruce Barnett writes:

Also check out Amazon (Grizzly).

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=507846

2x24" + 2x40" + 4 KP blocks = 119.95


Correction. I found a better deal on Amazon through Highland Hardware.

Search for "Bessey KBK2440 Cabinet Door Clamp Kit"
Featureed Item. Price too low to show.

Kit includes two 24-inch clamps, two 40-inch clamps, and one KP block set
List Price $239.75
Total Cost = $99.94 w/Free Shipping

So if you want to be a savvy shopper, get it from Amazon/Grizzly, and
then get them to match the Amazon/Highland Hardware price plus 10%
discount.

However, The Grizzy item is "Bessey H2389 K-Body / Block Set"
while the Highland Hardware is "Bessey KBK2440 Cabinet Door Clamp Kit"

As far as I can tell, these are the same item.
both had 2x24" and 2x40" plus the KP Blocks set.

Have fun, and let us know if it works.
I bought the KBK2440 set with a $50 certificate, for $49.94.

Let's see if I get it in 7 days. Last few items I got from Amazon
have been delayed months. :-(


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"B a r r y" wrote in message
.. .

I have a mountain of "F" clamps. What do you mean by "sit still"? I
can see where the smaller K's would stand up on the bench, but usually

Sorry I did not reply sooner. I did not realize this thread was still active
(gotta bet me a better newsreader).

"won't sit still" is my description of what happens when an F-clamp is used
to clamp something that has less than 2" wide flat surface. A good example
is using the f-clamp with the screw side "button" face against a 3/4" wood
edge. Unless you center it perfectly, it will tend to slide off to the
slide. A bessey k-body clamps just fine across a relatively thin edge, if
there is something flat on the other side.

Bob