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![]() "Ante Topic Mimara" ] wrote in message news:LVI8SSJ438625.7865740741@anonymous... I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and enough time that they would be willing to help me out. I have a drawing of two simple items, and I would like to open a dialogue with a hobbyist who is interested and willing to help. I can be reached at aegis365 at hotmail dot com if needed, so that I can forward the drawing. Just a friendly hint. Unless you can figure a way out to do this over the internet, it may be an idea to include a physical, real world location. A city, a country, etc........ Unless, of course, you live off planet or are just a figment of our collective imagination. HTH |
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Ante Topic Mimara wrote:
Unless you can figure a way out to do this over the internet, it may be an idea to include a physical, real world location. What a horse's ass you are. My shop, which is located in Charlotte, NC is not available to you even if you happen to live across the street. It was a reasonable request. If you had just said you lived in Boston or San Francisco, nobody else living outside those cities would need reply. As it is, I doubt anybody will. If you need a shop, buy one. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN |
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I've come to the conclusion, after Googling your previous newsgroup
postings, that you're quite an interesting person - and quite paranoid, for some reason or another. You're posting through anonymous remailers. You don't want to give even a general physical location. (How that equates to your "mailing address," I don't know.) Ante Topic Mimara obviously isn't your real name. Heck, you might not even be a man. You came here asking for help. Asking for a general physical location isn't unreasonable. Eric |
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![]() E. Hill wrote: I've come to the conclusion, after Googling your previous newsgroup postings, that you're quite an interesting person - and quite paranoid, for some reason or another. You're posting through anonymous remailers. You don't want to give even a general physical location. (How that equates to your "mailing address," I don't know.) Ante Topic Mimara obviously isn't your real name. Heck, you might not even be a man. You came here asking for help. Asking for a general physical location isn't unreasonable. Eric I think those Google-archived posts are from everyone who uses that remailer service (which Google sees as all having come from one person) but they are not all really by the OP, no? I'm in Cleveland, Ohio & they can't use my shop either ![]() Bert |
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![]() "Ante Topic Mimara" ] wrote in message A city, a country, etc... Not pertinent information until such time as an agreement to work on the project is decided upon. After a point where I as the seeker find someone to help (the helper), and we actually agree on how much it would cost for materials, expertise, and labor, then I would be more than pleased to provide my personal contact information via a private e-mail, rather than post it to some Usenet newsgroup where anyone can find it, for whatever nefarious reasons. One can never be too careful on the internet, as I have found out in the past. I don't need your mailing address but I'm certainly not going to spend a lot of time figuring costs, materials, etc only to find you are 1500 miles away. If you were within 50 miles, I'd contact you. Given your attitude, I don't want you in my shop anyway. |
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On 30 Sep 2005 22:52:40 -0000, Ante Topic Mimara
] wrote: I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and enough time that they would be willing to help me out. I have a drawing of two simple items, and I would like to open a dialogue with a hobbyist who is interested and willing to help. As others have pointed out, it's pointless to "open a dialogue" on the subject if the parties are a half a continent or more away. You don't have to give your address and phone number out...just say, "I'm in Pulaski, TN" or "the Pacific Northwest" so people who aren't can move on and not waste anyone's time, including yours. Nobody will ever be able to track you down and stalk you with that scant information, but it's all the difference in the world in getting useful responses to your request. I can be reached at aegis365 at hotmail dot com Red flag #1 to me. I use an email remailer myself, but hotmail addresses are too often associated with ne'er-do-wells... This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services. Red flag #2. Anonymous remailers are too often associated with ne'er-do-wells AND miscreants. Red flag #3. If you can't even bother to give a simple description of the sort of project you're wishing to accomplish, why should anyone bother "open[ing] a dialogue" to find out whether it's even within their skill level to pursue. Although we're all enthusiasts here, we're not all highly accomplished or professional woodworkers. So far you don't sound like someone I want to bother with. You now have an opportunity to rectify that perception. -- LRod Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999 http://www.woodbutcher.net Proud participant of rec.woodworking since February, 1997 |
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I think those Google-archived posts are from everyone who uses that
remailer service (which Google sees as all having come from one person) but they are not all really by the OP, no? I didn't Google the e-mail address... I Googled "Ante Topic Mimara" for newsgroup postings. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=An...coring=d&hl=en Eric |
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![]() "Ante Topic Mimara" ] Lee Michaels says... snip my e-mail address What a world class scumbag. I purposely munge my email addy. And this creep unmunges it so the various spambots can my harvest my addy. And does this while hiding behind various remailers and an alias. I think that we can safely conclude that this guy is bad news Approach at your own risk!! "Ante Topic Mimara" wrote: I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and enough time that they would be willing to help me out. I have a drawing of two simple items, and I would like to open a dialogue with a hobbyist who is interested and willing to help. I can be reached at aegis365 at hotmail dot com if needed, so that I can forward the drawing. Just a friendly hint. Unless you can figure a way out to do this over the internet, it may be an idea to include a physical, real world location. Are you volunteering to discuss the project, or do you just wish to regulate how people post requests? It may come as a shock to you, but the internet is global. It is like saying there is a good store down the block. It is information that is beneficial for locals. Not people on the other side of the planet. Idiots do this all the time. They say that they have an item for sale that can not be easily shipped. Who cares if no location is supplied? Location is an important component of anything that is done locally. Do you really not understand this? A city, a country, etc... Not pertinent information until such time as an agreement to work on the project is decided upon. After a point where I as the seeker find someone to help (the helper), and we actually agree on how much it would cost for materials, expertise, and labor, then I would be more than pleased to provide my personal contact information via a private e-mail, rather than post it to some Usenet newsgroup where anyone can find it, for whatever nefarious reasons. One can never be too careful on the internet, as I have found out in the past. Location is not pertinent information?? Maybe if you are going to pay fifty times the going rate. But if time and money are involved, location is incredibly important. Besides it is courteous to supply enough information to make it easy for people to decide if they want to deal with you. I'll post my mailing address, as soon as everyone else on this group posts theirs. I was just asking for woodworking advice and assistance. I didn't realize I had to open up my private information to the whole world to satisfy you. Well you posted my e-mail addy without my permission. And we are not asking for an intimate medical report. A town or state or something to narrow it down. Is this hard for you to understand? And it has nothing to do with my satisfaction. It is the nature of usenet. It is both global and local. If you demand that everybody be global (and anonymous) only, don't expect assistance with anything local. You can not have it both ways. Unless, of course, you live off planet or are just a figment of our collective imagination. By no means am I a figment of anyone's information, and the last time I looked, I was just as earthbound as everyone else who isn't in the employ of, say, NASA... Why is it so important to you to know where I can be found? Believe me, I can only hope that you don't live near me. I made a friendly suggestion and you go nuts. Again, another friendly hint. You might try to make nice when making requests. Your chances for assistance with your project would be much higher. But feel free to dismiss this suggestion out of hand as well. It is, no doubt, also some kind of demented plot. Unless of course you really don't intend to do anything other than criticize my request for assistance with a project, quibbling over my abject failure to post to your satisfaction, instead of inquiring about the project itself. Which is what I should have expected. My satisfaction?? My, my, you must have an unusually high opinion of yourself. I made a friendly suggestion. On the off hand chance that you did know how to make such an inquiry. These sinister plots and murky underworld dealings you are alluding to are all a figment of your imagination. You might try to scam a victim elsewhere. I don't think you are gaining many friends here. And this bunch is one of the friendliest and helpful groups of folks on usenet. ****ing them off collectively is quite an accomplishment. You must be so proud. |
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Ante Topic Mimara wrote:
A city, a country, etc... Not pertinent information until such time as an agreement to work on the project is decided upon. After a point where I as the seeker find someone to help (the helper), and we actually agree on how much it would cost for materials, expertise, and labor, then I would be more than pleased to provide my personal contact information via a private e-mail, rather than post it to some Usenet newsgroup where anyone can find it, for whatever nefarious reasons. One can never be too careful on the internet, as I have found out in the past. I'll post my mailing address, as soon as everyone else on this group posts theirs. I was just asking for woodworking advice and assistance. I didn't realize I had to open up my private information to the whole world to satisfy you. What a bizarre response to Lee's suggestion that you mention what city you are in. He didn't ask you for your street address! Get a grip! With an attitude like yours you are unlikely to receive any assistance here. Dave |
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![]() Lee Michaels wrote: "Ante Topic Mimara" ] Lee Michaels says... snip my e-mail address What a world class scumbag. I purposely munge my email addy. And this creep unmunges it so the various spambots can my harvest my addy. And does this while hiding behind various remailers and an alias. I think that we can safely conclude that this guy is bad news Approach at your own risk!! "Ante Topic Mimara" wrote: I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and enough time that they would be willing to help me out. I have a drawing of two simple items, and I would like to open a dialogue with a hobbyist who is interested and willing to help. I can be reached at aegis365 at hotmail dot com if needed, so that I can forward the drawing. Just a friendly hint. Unless you can figure a way out to do this over the internet, it may be an idea to include a physical, real world location. Are you volunteering to discuss the project, or do you just wish to regulate how people post requests? It may come as a shock to you, but the internet is global. It is like saying there is a good store down the block. It is information that is beneficial for locals. Not people on the other side of the planet. Idiots do this all the time. They say that they have an item for sale that can not be easily shipped. Who cares if no location is supplied? Location is an important component of anything that is done locally. Do you really not understand this? A city, a country, etc... Not pertinent information until such time as an agreement to work on the project is decided upon. After a point where I as the seeker find someone to help (the helper), and we actually agree on how much it would cost for materials, expertise, and labor, then I would be more than pleased to provide my personal contact information via a private e-mail, rather than post it to some Usenet newsgroup where anyone can find it, for whatever nefarious reasons. One can never be too careful on the internet, as I have found out in the past. Location is not pertinent information?? Maybe if you are going to pay fifty times the going rate. But if time and money are involved, location is incredibly important. Besides it is courteous to supply enough information to make it easy for people to decide if they want to deal with you. I'll post my mailing address, as soon as everyone else on this group posts theirs. I was just asking for woodworking advice and assistance. I didn't realize I had to open up my private information to the whole world to satisfy you. Well you posted my e-mail addy without my permission. And we are not asking for an intimate medical report. A town or state or something to narrow it down. Is this hard for you to understand? And it has nothing to do with my satisfaction. It is the nature of usenet. It is both global and local. If you demand that everybody be global (and anonymous) only, don't expect assistance with anything local. You can not have it both ways. Unless, of course, you live off planet or are just a figment of our collective imagination. By no means am I a figment of anyone's information, and the last time I looked, I was just as earthbound as everyone else who isn't in the employ of, say, NASA... Why is it so important to you to know where I can be found? Believe me, I can only hope that you don't live near me. I made a friendly suggestion and you go nuts. Again, another friendly hint. You might try to make nice when making requests. Your chances for assistance with your project would be much higher. But feel free to dismiss this suggestion out of hand as well. It is, no doubt, also some kind of demented plot. Unless of course you really don't intend to do anything other than criticize my request for assistance with a project, quibbling over my abject failure to post to your satisfaction, instead of inquiring about the project itself. Which is what I should have expected. My satisfaction?? My, my, you must have an unusually high opinion of yourself. I made a friendly suggestion. On the off hand chance that you did know how to make such an inquiry. These sinister plots and murky underworld dealings you are alluding to are all a figment of your imagination. You might try to scam a victim elsewhere. I don't think you are gaining many friends here. And this bunch is one of the friendliest and helpful groups of folks on usenet. ****ing them off collectively is quite an accomplishment. You must be so proud. To the original poster. You may be better off checking your local phone book and finding a business that does contract work. Then you can do all the non-disclosure agreements etc that you might feel you need. I have obtained mostly helpful advice from this newsgroup and people seem generally willing to help. A general location wether it be city or state is not unreasonable and allows a lot of people to opt out of further discussion. If you are resident in the USA then all mexican, Canadian, Indian, Pakistan, England, France, Germany etc readers of the newsgroup probably are not interested. And a general comment, I use a Yahoo mail account so that all mailing lists wind up at an address that I can ususally scan and delete. Anonymous remailers are in my opinion very tacky and make you look like a person up to no good. |
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Ante Topic Mimara ] writes:
I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and Just come to my office, we can discuss in person... -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 |
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Tom Quackenbush wrote:
Juergen Hannappel wrote: Ante Topic Mimara writes: I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and Just come to my office, we can discuss in person... Excellent. R, Tom Q. Don't mind the 4 men in white coats, they are just here to help ![]() |
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![]() "David" wrote in message ... ! With an attitude like yours you are unlikely to receive any assistance here. Dave I doubt that he really wanted any work done anyway. Just trolling. From his comments, it would seem that he does this often enough that someone has tracked him down and given him some trouble over it, hence the anonymity. |
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Ante Topic Mimara (in LVI8SSJ438625.7865740741@anonymous) said:
| I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in | mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking | someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and | enough time that they would be willing to help me out. I have a | drawing of two simple items, and I would like to open a dialogue | with a hobbyist who is interested and willing to help. Fairly decent shop with 4'x8' CNC router that can accept DXF drawing inputs. I have a bit of experience, never enough time, and can read drawings of most simple items. I listen fairly well and am generally willing to help anyone willing to help themselves. If it's a matter of "do for" rather than "help", then my participation probably won't be gratis. Stop by my shop whenever you like (It's a good idea to call first so I can be sure to be there when you arrive). Follow the link for contact info - you'll also find a visitors' link if you'd like to look around before you arrive (though the shop has been re-arranged several times since those photos were taken). -- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/ |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:33:08 +0200, Juergen Hannappel
wrote: Ante Topic Mimara ] writes: I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and Just come to my office, we can discuss in person... Good one there Juergen. :-) +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough +--------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |
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On 30 Sep 2005 22:52:40 -0000, Ante Topic Mimara
] wrote: I have little to no means to do a small project that I have in mind, (a circular saw, a drill, and that's it!) and I am seeking someone who has a fairly decent shop, a bit of experience, and enough time that they would be willing to help me out. I have a drawing of two simple items, and I would like to open a dialogue with a hobbyist who is interested and willing to help. _____________________ /| /| | | ||__|| | Please do not | / O O\__ | feed the | / \ | Trolls | / \ \|_____________________| / _ \ \ || / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | _|| / / \ |____| || / | | | --| | | | |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ | || / _ \\ | / `' * / \_ /- | | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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Can you show us in your post where you asked for woodworking advice
or assistance? All I saw was a request for a private meeting, which would entail knowing where you are. Rather than jumping on everybody who responds, maybe you should consider the limits of your own communications. Ante Topic Mimara wrote: I'll post my mailing address, as soon as everyone else on this group posts theirs. I was just asking for woodworking advice and assistance. I didn't realize I had to open up my private information to the whole world to satisfy you. |
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