Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

My new train table for my son has three new design features for me. Mitered
half laps, curved apron, and loose M&T's.

Finished it, now applying finish. Will post pics soon if your interested.

On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:04:40 GMT, "stoutman" .@. wrote:

Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

If you mean where one piece is beveled on the end, but half-lapped
square, and the other cut square and the lap mitered, I've done a a
mess of them as picture/mirror frames. It's picky.

That's the one.

I needed to make a rabbet inside a frame that holds the train table top. I
thought miters would be the best way because you can do through rabbets
before assembly (regular miters are to weak for this project, end grain to
end grain). The other option was regular half laps than rabbet with a
router. This would of given me rounded corners that I would have to chisel
out, didn't want to do that. Im happy with the way 3 of the four mitered
half laps came out. 3 out of 4 isn't bad I guess...




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On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:04:40 GMT, "stoutman" .@. wrote:

Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

If you mean where one piece is beveled on the end, but half-lapped
square, and the other cut square and the lap mitered, I've done a a
mess of them as picture/mirror frames. It's picky.

I've never done one. I looked on the web to make sure I was thinking of
the same joint you are discussing. I guessed correctly. I'm now
wondering if they could be made with an accurate miter gauge setting
using a dado blade for the first piece. Then cut the miter on the
second piece and then run it on the TS with the miter gauge and dado
blade, making sure the height of the blade is dead on correct. Slide
work piece and repeat as necessary.

Did you use a router?

Dave

stoutman wrote:

Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

My new train table for my son has three new design features for me. Mitered
half laps, curved apron, and loose M&T's.

Finished it, now applying finish. Will post pics soon if your interested.

Actually, doing mitered half laps is a breeze with a RA saw and a dado
set

John


On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:04:40 GMT, "stoutman" .@. wrote:

Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

My new train table for my son has three new design features for me. Mitered
half laps, curved apron, and loose M&T's.

Finished it, now applying finish. Will post pics soon if your interested.

I did them on the router table using two different jigs and a pattern bit.
I tried them on the table saw with dado blade on scrap wood. My crappy dado
blade doesn't produce a clean cut so I went with the router.



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I've never done one. I looked on the web to make sure I was thinking of
the same joint you are discussing. I guessed correctly. I'm now
wondering if they could be made with an accurate miter gauge setting using
a dado blade for the first piece. Then cut the miter on the second piece
and then run it on the TS with the miter gauge and dado blade, making sure
the height of the blade is dead on correct. Slide work piece and repeat
as necessary.

Did you use a router?

Dave

stoutman wrote:

Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

My new train table for my son has three new design features for me.
Mitered half laps, curved apron, and loose M&T's.

Finished it, now applying finish. Will post pics soon if your
interested.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:09:22 GMT, "stoutman" .@. wrote:

I did them on the router table using two different jigs and a pattern bit.
I tried them on the table saw with dado blade on scrap wood. My crappy dado
blade doesn't produce a clean cut so I went with the router.

I did that, but made the first cross-cut, lap-depth with the saw, both
for the miter cut and the straight cut, then finished cleaning out the
rest with the router.

"stoutman" .@. wrote in
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Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

My new train table for my son has three new design features for me.
Mitered half laps, curved apron, and loose M&T's.

Finished it, now applying finish. Will post pics soon if your
interested.


You bet. Let's see the pics. Sounds like a beauty.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:09:22 GMT, "stoutman" .@. wrote:

I did them on the router table using two different jigs and a pattern bit.
I tried them on the table saw with dado blade on scrap wood. My crappy dado
blade doesn't produce a clean cut so I went with the router.

Instead of doing it on the table, wouldn't it be easier to do this one
with the router in hand? I'd get a piece of sacrificial stock with a
45 degree angle cut into it that you can slide the piece to be routed
into (to support the router base as you work) and use a couple of
c-clamps to make a temporary fence for the router base to reference
itself against. The idea one of the others had about cutting the egde
of the joint to the correct depth on the TS before routing would work
as well as the temporary fence for this, if you prefer to free-hand
it.

Posted in ABPW.





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"stoutman" .@. wrote in
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Doing mitered half laps is HARD!

My new train table for my son has three new design features for me.
Mitered half laps, curved apron, and loose M&T's.

Finished it, now applying finish. Will post pics soon if your
interested.


You bet. Let's see the pics. Sounds like a beauty.