In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

On Fri, 20 May 2005 01:25:29 GMT, Marty Escarcega
wrote:

In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

So... which pieces of the furniture and cabinetry did you make? :-)

Looks like a nice place. Green grass in Arizona, imagine that. Strike
that, lots of green grass in Arizona, imagine that. [I have the token 20 x
50 foot lawn in my backyard, the rest of the place is rocks.]




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If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough

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Thats incredibel. tom

Marty Escarcega wrote:
In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

445 grand for 1/2 acre?

In Mesa?

Pass

On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:33:48 -0400, Steve Decker
wrote:

Marty Escarcega wrote:
In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

445 grand for 1/2 acre?

In Mesa?

Pass

My son lives in Mesa and wants to move up. The prices are insane. He
sent me the inspection report he had done on a $375K place that showed
beautifully but under the skin was a piece of crap. I told him to
pass.

Just like (okay worse than) Tucson, all the Californians tired of the
rat race there are to moving to AZ with big bucks and driving up the
price of housing here. And bringing the rat race with them.
California "investors" are putting a payment down on yet to be
completed houses and then flipping them when they're complete. Some
builders are trying to institute clauses that require the buyer to
actually live in the place.

Sure makes the tax assessors happy tho.

On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:33:48 -0400, Steve Decker
wrote:

Marty Escarcega wrote:
In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

445 grand for 1/2 acre?

In Mesa?

Pass

Question of perspective, I guess.

If you were reading this from southern California, you'd be thinking
that price is way *low*. That property here would be $750K minimum.

Lee

Nice home. What is the motorcycle you are working on? Like the tax rate,
better than California. Good luck on selling.
Bruce
Marty Escarcega wrote:
In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

I agree. I live in San Diego. My neighborhood was decimated by the
2003 firestorm. A recently rebuilt 3000sf tract home was just put on
the market for $1M - insane...

I agree. I live in San Diego. My neighborhood was decimated by the
2003 firestorm. A recently rebuilt 3000sf tract home was just put on
the market for $1M - insane...

Lee DeRaud wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:33:48 -0400, Steve Decker
wrote:


Marty Escarcega wrote:

In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

445 grand for 1/2 acre?

In Mesa?

Pass


Question of perspective, I guess.

If you were reading this from southern California, you'd be thinking
that price is way *low*. That property here would be $750K minimum.

Lee

Maybe. But this house is not even in one of the "desirable" sections of
Mesa.

Wes Stewart wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:33:48 -0400, Steve Decker
wrote:

Marty Escarcega wrote:
In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this
summer. http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

445 grand for 1/2 acre?

In Mesa?

Pass

My son lives in Mesa and wants to move up. The prices are insane. He
sent me the inspection report he had done on a $375K place that showed
beautifully but under the skin was a piece of crap. I told him to
pass.

Just like (okay worse than) Tucson, all the Californians tired of the
rat race there are to moving to AZ with big bucks and driving up the
price of housing here. And bringing the rat race with them.
California "investors" are putting a payment down on yet to be
completed houses and then flipping them when they're complete. Some
builders are trying to institute clauses that require the buyer to
actually live in the place.

Welcome to California! The Californians did the same thing here in Oregon
starting in the early 1970s. A lot of them were buying places based on no
more than a Polaroid taken from the front of the property!


Sure makes the tax assessors happy tho.

On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:48:00 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

[snip]

Welcome to California! The Californians did the same thing here in Oregon
starting in the early 1970s. A lot of them were buying places based on no
more than a Polaroid taken from the front of the property!


I live to the west of Tucson, a few hundred feet from Saguaro Nat.
Park. Across the private road that is my drive, there were four
parcels for sale. A local speculator bought 20 acres for $250K a few
years ago and sliced it up into the 4 pieces. Seven+ acres with the
back fence being the park boundary he kept for himself. The other
three, 4.1 acre parcels he sold for about 150K each. One buyer is
from CA, one from WA, and the third is local, although he's made no
building progress despite being a contractor and I suspicion he will
sell to an outsider for a profit. Two houses abutting these lots
recently sold to people from CA and OR. The whole area is being
Californicated.

The guy from WA sold a doll house (I saw the photos) on Puget Sound
for $650K. He's got a builder doing a 3000' home for about $120/ft so
he'll have half a mill in the place. But he's complaining about the
$8K fees to the county. I told him he's getting a bargain considering
the impact he and the other folks moving here have on the traffic and
water supply.

As I told him over a few beers, as an individual he's a nice guy, just
as individually, illegal aliens might be nice guys, but collectively
they're ruining the place.

In article kppje.33$Px1.10@trnddc07, Lobby Dosser wrote:

Welcome to California! The Californians did the same thing here in Oregon
starting in the early 1970s. A lot of them were buying places based on no
more than a Polaroid taken from the front of the property!

That would explain the bumper stickers I saw on a trip thru Oregon in '75:
"Don't Californicate Oregon!"

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

(Doug Miller) wrote:

In article kppje.33$Px1.10@trnddc07, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Welcome to California! The Californians did the same thing here in
Oregon starting in the early 1970s. A lot of them were buying places
based on no more than a Polaroid taken from the front of the property!

That would explain the bumper stickers I saw on a trip thru Oregon in
'75: "Don't Californicate Oregon!"

YEP! and "Visit Oregon. Just don't forget to leave."

We had another influx of them in the 1980s when it was fairly dry (west
of the Cascades) and they all started whining when we went back to normal
rainfall.


--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his
butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?

On Fri, 20 May 2005 19:07:31 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:



We had another influx of them in the 1980s when it was fairly dry (west
of the Cascades) and they all started whining when we went back to normal
rainfall.

Yep, they come here, move to the fringes of town 50 miles from work
and then bitch because the traffic's too congested. So they want a
freeway plowed through *someone else's* neighborhood so they can get
to work on time.

I've often said that we should ban air-conditioned cars and houses.
Drive with the windows down and have evaporative cooling at home.

If you can't take it then you don't belong here, it's desert for
goodness sake, go back to where you came from.

"Wes Stewart" wrote in message
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On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:48:00 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

Snip

The guy from WA sold a doll house (I saw the photos) on Puget Sound
for $650K. He's got a builder doing a 3000' home for about $120/ft so
he'll have half a mill in the place. But he's complaining about the
$8K fees to the county. I told him he's getting a bargain considering
the impact he and the other folks moving here have on the traffic and
water supply.

As I told him over a few beers, as an individual he's a nice guy, just
as individually, illegal aliens might be nice guys, but collectively
they're ruining the place.

Now you know how us native WA folks feel after we got all of them bloody CA
people wanting to make us into another CA. I wonder if the fellow is a
"native" of WA - probably one of them looneys from down south . . .

AZ is a nice place but not sure if my webs between the toes could survive
the lack of moisture - they tend to crack a bit without rain you know. . .

BillyB

Lee DeRaud wrote:

On Fri, 20 May 2005 09:33:48 -0400, Steve Decker
wrote:


Marty Escarcega wrote:

In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

445 grand for 1/2 acre?

In Mesa?

Pass


Question of perspective, I guess.

If you were reading this from southern California, you'd be thinking
that price is way *low*. That property here would be $750K minimum.

Lee

In Albuquerque this home would go for under $200k, probably around
$175k. Quite a difference in RE costs for sure. But then a 'high
paying job' here is around $12/hrsigh.
Grandpa John

On Fri, 20 May 2005 21:04:15 GMT, "BillyBob"
wrote:

[snip]

AZ is a nice place but not sure if my webs between the toes could survive
the lack of moisture - they tend to crack a bit without rain you know. . .

The weather channel web site shows the 12PM temp in Tucson as 100 F,
but it "feels like" only 96 F. The RH is 14%... plenty wet for a
desert rat [g].

Wes Stewart writes:

AZ is a nice place but not sure if my webs between the toes could survive
the lack of moisture - they tend to crack a bit without rain you know. . .

The weather channel web site shows the 12PM temp in Tucson as 100 F,
but it "feels like" only 96 F. The RH is 14%... plenty wet for a
desert rat [g].

I would rather have 100F at 12% RH than the 60 to 70F dewpoints at 85 to
90F we get in Minnesota.

When I go out to the desert in Nevada, it will be 95F, but it feels nice
to me because of the lack of humidity.

Brian Elfert

On Fri, 20 May 2005 01:25:29 GMT, Marty Escarcega
wrote:

In case anyone might be interested in relocating :-)
Selling our home with shop and getting ready to move later this summer.
http://www.glennloper.com/f-properties.html
Click on the link Country Living in the City Limits

That's just wrong... your house costs about 6X what mine did, and my
property taxes are higher. That's almost a reason to relocate right
there!

On Fri, 20 May 2005 17:19:04 -0600, John DeBoo
wrote:

In Albuquerque this home would go for under $200k, probably around
$175k. Quite a difference in RE costs for sure. But then a 'high
paying job' here is around $12/hrsigh.

You're not alone there- that about sums up the situation in northern
Wisconsin as well. As an employer once told me- you might starve, but
at least you don't have to wait for the weekend to go into the woods
and play with your toys.

Grandpa John