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Bandsaw blade storage w/o coiling
I know coiling the bandsaw blades is a lot more compact for storage.
But I don't want that. I want to store mine uncoiled. Does anybody have any clever ways of doing that other than a peg or nail to hang them on? I want a method that prevents the blades from touching each other. |
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In article .com,
Never Enough Money wrote: I know coiling the bandsaw blades is a lot more compact for storage. But I don't want that. I want to store mine uncoiled. Does anybody have any clever ways of doing that other than a peg or nail to hang them on? I want a method that prevents the blades from touching each other. overhead hooks? Steal the Jolly Grean Giant's tie rack? |
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Robert Bonomi wrote: In article .com, Never Enough Money wrote: I know coiling the bandsaw blades is a lot more compact for storage. But I don't want that. I want to store mine uncoiled. Does anybody have any clever ways of doing that other than a peg or nail to hang them on? I want a method that prevents the blades from touching each other. overhead hooks? Steal the Jolly Grean Giant's tie rack? Heh. I wonder why he doesn't want to coil them. Much simpler, neater, less of a space eater. My bandsaw takes 133" blades, which makes quite a loop. And when they're floating about like that, the slightest bump makes them move into each other. Much simpler to coil them. Otherwise, I'd hang pieces of 4" PVC about 6" long horizontally and put no more than three blades on each piece. I think currently I've got 15 or 16 blades, though. Not handy. |
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"Never Enough Money" wrote in message oups.com... I know coiling the bandsaw blades is a lot more compact for storage. But I don't want that. I want to store mine uncoiled. Does anybody have any clever ways of doing that other than a peg or nail to hang them on? I want a method that prevents the blades from touching each other. Lots of bicycle rims? Pegs seem a kinky way of doing it. I suppose a few minutes with a circle-cutting jig and some plywood could produce a batch of arcs in 3/4 stock, and a batch in 1/4 to tack as rims. Hope you've got a lot of wall space, and oil those puppies when you take 'em off. |
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Never Enough Money wrote:
I know coiling the bandsaw blades is a lot more compact for storage. But I don't want that. I want to store mine uncoiled. Does anybody have any clever ways of doing that other than a peg or nail to hang them on? I want a method that prevents the blades from touching each other. I'm sorry I don't have a practical suggestion for your storage problem (other than those which have already been offered) but I have to ask: "Why not coil them?" It's easy to do, makes the blade compact for storage (you can lay them in a drawer, separated by cardboard sheets) and, after all, it's how the manufacturer ships and stores them. |
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"Never Enough Money" wrote in message oups.com... I know coiling the bandsaw blades is a lot more compact for storage. But I don't want that. I want to store mine uncoiled. Does anybody have any clever ways of doing that other than a peg or nail to hang them on? I want a method that prevents the blades from touching each other. How about a separate building specifically designed for the propose |
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Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my
bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. |
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Never Enough Money wrote:
Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. No, I understand that. It's really pretty easy to do. I'll try to recall the exact directions for coiling the blades that I read years ago in a magazine article or maybe a book. First - Stop at Walgreen's or some tobacco store and buy one package (a lifetime supply) of pipe cleaners. Handy in the shop anyway but they are great to keep the blades coiled in storage - easy on, easy off and reuseable. Second - Hold the blade out in front of you, uncoiled, with the teeth pointing away from you. You should be grasping it around the middle of the loop. Third - Twist both hands in opposite directions at the same time. This will cause the blade to coil itself. The coils should be even but if not, just loosen your grip and they will be. Tie off with two pipe cleaners and lay them in a drawer or hang them on a hook. If my directions are a bit off, just keep trying variations on it in the way you twist the blade, hold it. It works like a charm. One of those things that once you do it, it becomes second nature and you won't even give it a thought. |
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Thanks, I'll try that this evening. Now I suppose my question has
morphed into how to store coiled bandsaw blades. Perhaps, a box with divideders in it. Dividers could be quarter inch hardboard...... |
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"Charlie Self" wrote in message oups.com... Steal the Jolly Grean Giant's tie rack? Heh. I wonder why he doesn't want to coil them. Much simpler, neater, less of a space eater. My bandsaw takes 133" blades, which makes quite a loop. And when they're floating about like that, the slightest bump makes them move into each other. Much simpler to coil them. Otherwise, How about just buying extra bandsaws and storing them install on the saw? |
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"Never Enough Money" wrote in message ups.com... Thanks, I'll try that this evening. Now I suppose my question has morphed into how to store coiled bandsaw blades. Perhaps, a box with divideders in it. Dividers could be quarter inch hardboard...... That will work. You can make a series of slide outs, you can use vertical dividers like on a desk, you can put them back in the box they came it (at least for a while 'til they get ragged) I hang mine on a screw in the wall. I do coil them, but if it is going right back on, I sometimes don't. Once you've coiled them a few times it is very easily done. Intimidating the fist two or three times. To release them, I just toss it on the floor away from me. |
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Never Enough Money wrote:
Thanks, I'll try that this evening. Now I suppose my question has morphed into how to store coiled bandsaw blades. Hang them on pegs -- dadiOH ____________________________ dadiOH's dandies v3.06... ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that. Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico |
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http://woodmagazine.com/wood/story.j...y/data/449.xml
Never Enough Money wrote: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. |
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"Pat Barber" wrote in message ... http://woodmagazine.com/wood/story.j.../wood/story/da ta/449.xml Interesting. That's not the way I do it though. I was taught a two handed grip and twist. I guess the result is the same. Someone should do a short video clip. It would be worth at least 1000 words. -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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Never Enough Money wrote:
Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I kind of liked the separate building comment. G Barry |
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on 5/17/2005 8:09 AM Never Enough Money said the following:
Thanks, I'll try that this evening. Now I suppose my question has morphed into how to store coiled bandsaw blades. Perhaps, a box with divideders in it. Dividers could be quarter inch hardboard...... You can do all sorts of fancy things with them but why? The tips given here are, for the most part, from guys who've been doing this for years and you see suggestions like "toss it on the floor to open," "step on the blade with one foot and twist with your hand." You coil the blade, secure it with the pipe cleaners or anything else you choose or have handy, and lay it in a drawer. Compared to either uncoiling it or re-coiling it according to the magazine article, just laying in the drawer or cabinet carefully is not apt to cause a problem with it. |
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Unquestionably Confused wrote: Never Enough Money wrote: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. No, I understand that. It's really pretty easy to do. I'll try to recall the exact directions for coiling the blades that I read years ago in a magazine article or maybe a book. First - Stop at Walgreen's or some tobacco store and buy one package (a lifetime supply) of pipe cleaners. Handy in the shop anyway but they are great to keep the blades coiled in storage - easy on, easy off and reuseable. Second - Hold the blade out in front of you, uncoiled, with the teeth pointing away from you. You should be grasping it around the middle of the loop. Third - Twist both hands in opposite directions at the same time. This will cause the blade to coil itself. The coils should be even but if not, just loosen your grip and they will be. Tie off with two pipe cleaners and lay them in a drawer or hang them on a hook. If my directions are a bit off, just keep trying variations on it in the way you twist the blade, hold it. It works like a charm. One of those things that once you do it, it becomes second nature and you won't even give it a thought. Another way (and because I take Coumadin--blood thinner--I prefer to wear gloves when working with blades of any kind): teeth facing out, grip the top with the palm facing up. Place a foot on the lower part of the coil and gently press against the floor. Twist the hand holding the blade and push down gently. I use my left hand and twist to my right. Tie off. I use shorts off #14 wire to tie it off, but pipe cleaners also work well. Toss on the floor to open, but use caution. I once tossed one and it hung on my thumbnail as it left my hand. That's the primary reason I now wear gloves. |
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"patrick conroy" wrote: "Charlie Self" wrote in message oups.com... Steal the Jolly Grean Giant's tie rack? Heh. I wonder why he doesn't want to coil them. Much simpler, neater, less of a space eater. My bandsaw takes 133" blades, which makes quite a loop. And when they're floating about like that, the slightest bump makes them move into each other. Much simpler to coil them. Otherwise, How about just buying extra bandsaws and storing them install on the saw? ...or maybe fit two blades on one saw? If one held his mouth just right, one could slice see-through veneers and peel potatoes as well? Betcha never thought of that, eh? Don't you just love a creative moment? Last time I uncoiled a blade it pinned me against the wall. I'm still there. SWMBO brought me my laptop. Nice of her, eh? |
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On 17 May 2005 05:48:43 -0700, "Never Enough Money"
wrote: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. What blade? (80, 93, 105", etc.) Maybe a multi-layer cabinet like pages in a book, with opposing "hose holder" thingies the appropriate distance apart? (- -) hmm.. try to draw hose holders, get boobs.. damned porn! mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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On 17 May 2005 06:09:05 -0700, "Never Enough Money"
wrote: Thanks, I'll try that this evening. Now I suppose my question has morphed into how to store coiled bandsaw blades. Perhaps, a box with divideders in it. Dividers could be quarter inch hardboard...... WEAR GLOVES... learning can be painful, sometimes.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message Interesting. That's not the way I do it though. I was taught a two handed grip and twist. I guess the result is the same. Someone should do a short video clip. It would be worth at least 1000 words. It has been done. I may even have it on my hard drive at home and if I do I'll post it. It may have been FWW magazine. Sure does look easy when you see it done in front of you. . |
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Robatoy wrote:
...or maybe fit two blades on one saw? If the blades were installed in opposite directions, the motor had a reversing switch, and the table were double sided, the user could have two instant setups simply by reversing the blade travel direction. Ralph Engerman's got nuttin' on me! Barry |
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I wear gloves, step on the blade and twirl. I don't like trying to coil
them with only my hands. Dave Never Enough Money wrote: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. |
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I have a 1X2 upside-down J hung on a 2X4 in the unfinished garage
ceiling with 1/4" dowels out of both sides for coiled blades. Hung above the bandsaw nacherly. On 17 May 2005 06:09:05 -0700, "Never Enough Money" wrote: Thanks, I'll try that this evening. Now I suppose my question has morphed into how to store coiled bandsaw blades. Perhaps, a box with divideders in it. Dividers could be quarter inch hardboard...... |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message news:BMmie.6324$_f7.2790@trndny01... "Never Enough Money" wrote in message ups.com... snip To release them, I just toss it on the floor away from me. I must add that I disagree with those who give the bands a toss to unwrap. That is a good way to, in descending order of import, 1) get hurt 2) hurt others 3) hurt shopdog 4) damage machinery 5) damage the band teeth. Better to wear heavy gloves and carefully unwrap the band. -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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"Never Enough Money" wrote in
ups.com: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. Check out http://www.newwoodworker.com/coilbsblde.html and watch the movie. I've found that this is much easier than the two hand method. Don |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 13:06:58 -0700, "Pounds on Wood"
wrote: I must add that I disagree with those who give the bands a toss to unwrap. You don't have a Wood-mizer, do you ? |
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Robatoy wrote: ..or maybe fit two blades on one saw? If one held his mouth just right, one could slice see-through veneers and peel potatoes as well? Betcha never thought of that, eh? AND IN ANOTHER THREAD YOU WROTE THE FOLLOWING!?!? A few are downright wrong and dangerous. How does the uninitiated know the difference? That's right... they don't. Robatoy, some uninitiated neophyte might take your comment and have a very dangerous situation on his hands - or might even lose his hands altogether. You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting such a thing in an unmoderated public forum. -- Owen Lowe The Fly-by-Night Copper Company __________ "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate States of America and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation, under debt, easily divisible, with liberty and justice for oil." - Wiley Miller, Non Sequitur, 1/24/05 |
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In article ,
Fly-by-Night CC wrote: Robatoy, some uninitiated neophyte might take your comment and have a very dangerous situation on his hands - or might even lose his hands altogether. You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting such a thing in an unmoderated public forum. Shame on me! |
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In article ,
B a r r y wrote: Robatoy wrote: ...or maybe fit two blades on one saw? If the blades were installed in opposite directions, the motor had a reversing switch, and the table were double sided, the user could have two instant setups simply by reversing the blade travel direction. Ralph Engerman's got nuttin' on me! Barry You wouldn't have to reverse the direction. Just feed the work from behind. 2 Blades would mess with the turning radius though. But if you added 15 mA of non-lethal current, you could make it work. |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 10:03:43 -0700, mac davis
wrote: WEAR GLOVES I can live without the gloves, it's my _nose_ that I worry about ! (OK, so I could lose a bit off the end and not notice. But I'd notice) |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 14:51:40 GMT, Pat Barber
wrote: http://woodmagazine.com/wood/story.j...y/data/449.xml Last step reads: "Simultaneously rotate and lower your hand as you hold the top of the blade. By the time your hand makes three-quarters to one full revolution, the blade will have popped into three coils." Ok, obviously there's something I'm misreading in that description, even with the pictures, because for this rapidly-aging reader, that translates to: "By the time your hand makes three-quarters to one full revolution, you've dislocated your shoulder." Lee |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:26:02 -0500, Don Wheeler
wrote: "Never Enough Money" wrote in oups.com: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. Check out http://www.newwoodworker.com/coilbsblde.html and watch the movie. I've found that this is much easier than the two hand method. Ok, *that* looks like I might even be able to do it without hurting myself. (Some of the descriptions here sounded like you needed to be some kind of mutant ninja contortionist.) Lee |
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Lee DeRaud wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:26:02 -0500, Don Wheeler wrote: "Never Enough Money" wrote in roups.com: Ok, ok, ok, lighten up. I'll coil the stupid things. I just got my bandsaw and coiling seems difficult, and it seems like I'd constantly be damaging the teeth. Check out http://www.newwoodworker.com/coilbsblde.html and watch the movie. I've found that this is much easier than the two hand method. Ok, *that* looks like I might even be able to do it without hurting myself. (Some of the descriptions here sounded like you needed to be some kind of mutant ninja contortionist.) That's why they say a picture (or a movie) is worth a thousand words. Can you imagine the fun we'd have trying to explain just how to tie a bow tie?g |
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Fortunately, this forum has many immoderate moderators. Some threads
generate a hell of a lot more heat than light. As the language cop in this thread, I would like to point out the redundancy in the first sentence. Now I'll post this on the bottom just to **** of _those_ folks. "Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message news Robatoy, some uninitiated neophyte might take your comment and have a very dangerous situation on his hands - or might even lose his hands altogether. You should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting such a thing in an unmoderated public forum. -- Fortunately, this forum has many immoderate moderators. Some threads generate a hell of a lot more heat than light. As the language cop in this thread, I would like to point out the redundancy in the first sentence. Now I'll post this on top just to **** of _those_ folks. |
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Robatoy wrote:
In article , B a r r y wrote: Robatoy wrote: ...or maybe fit two blades on one saw? If the blades were installed in opposite directions, the motor had a reversing switch, and the table were double sided, the user could have two instant setups simply by reversing the blade travel direction. Ralph Engerman's got nuttin' on me! Barry You wouldn't have to reverse the direction. Just feed the work from behind. 2 Blades would mess with the turning radius though. But if you added 15 mA of non-lethal current, you could make it work. I was thinking "direction" as up and down. Now you've got me thinking (4) blades! Two up, two down, facing in opposite directions. Storage problem SOLVED! Barry |
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In article ,
B a r r y wrote: Robatoy wrote: In article , B a r r y wrote: Robatoy wrote: ...or maybe fit two blades on one saw? If the blades were installed in opposite directions, the motor had a reversing switch, and the table were double sided, the user could have two instant setups simply by reversing the blade travel direction. Ralph Engerman's got nuttin' on me! Barry You wouldn't have to reverse the direction. Just feed the work from behind. 2 Blades would mess with the turning radius though. But if you added 15 mA of non-lethal current, you could make it work. I was thinking "direction" as up and down. Now you've got me thinking (4) blades! Two up, two down, facing in opposite directions. Storage problem SOLVED! Barry Would it be much of a stretch to weld on a horizontal band-saw, like those metal cutting ones? 2 blades on one of those. Now you have a machine that can turn an entire human into freedom fries. |
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On Wed, 18 May 2005 00:49:30 +0100, Andy Dingley wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2005 10:03:43 -0700, mac davis wrote: WEAR GLOVES I can live without the gloves, it's my _nose_ that I worry about ! (OK, so I could lose a bit off the end and not notice. But I'd notice) well, you can work in the shop with a bandaged nose, Andy.. harder to work with your hands all wrapped in gauze.. *g* I noticed when washing up last night that I had a slight abrasion on my arm... matches a 3 TPI blade, so I must of just lightly brushed the (NOT MOVING) blade when I swept off the table... mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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