"J. Clarke" wrote in message
FWIW, fabric softener does not have much effect on the static cling of
microfiber. I made the mistake of buying a microfiber jacket a while
back.
It has been fabric-softened several times and will still pull the fur off
a
pushstick at 20 paces.

Try Static Guard spray.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:24:22 GMT, the inscrutable Unquestionably
Confused spake:

Larry Jaques wrote:

I use a damp cloth on my face shield (which seems to work fine) but
wonder if something like Rain-X or Fog-X would help not only the
static but the smaller scratches. I'll have to try it.

I don't think that Rain-X will do anything for the scratches and might
react with the plastic. I'll have to check - for some reason I thought
that there might be a warning against using it on plastics or getting
the solution on the car's finish.

What might work better - asssuming one can find it is a product called
"Slipstream" an aircraft polish that was made to polish the plexiglass

Rain-X is also used on aircraft windshields, so I'm sure it's OK.
I polished my computer and reading glasses with it and the polycarb
lenses on both are fine.


windscreens, etc. on aircraft. That I HAVE used on plastic and it does
a great job. Also a great job on painted metal. I think I still have
some left and I know I have a face shield that needs to be thrown away.
If I can find both I'll introduce them to each otherg

Bueno.


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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:15:09 -0700, the inscrutable mac davis
spake:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:17:39 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:
snip

I use a damp cloth on my face shield (which seems to work fine) but
wonder if something like Rain-X or Fog-X would help not only the
static but the smaller scratches. I'll have to try it.

larry.. I used rain-ex anti fog on the inside of a face shield..

good news: It worked great and never fogged...

bad news: the smell of the stuff never went away and I couldn't stand wearing
the sucker..

What do they use in it, buffalo snot?


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Larry Jaques wrote:

Rain-X is also used on aircraft windshields, so I'm sure it's OK.
I polished my computer and reading glasses with it and the polycarb
lenses on both are fine.

Okay as far as damaging the poly but I was more concerned that the
Rain-X would do nothing to remove the smaller scratches you referenced.
I took a look at the Rain-X bottle I have and this not billed as a
cleaner but rather a topping after you have the windshield scrupuously
cleaned with other chemicals, etc. To remove the scratches there should
be some microabrasive component to the Rain-X, no?

Also the ingredients are two kinds of alcohol and siloxyate (Sp?) Could
this be a dreaded silicone act alike? It's a stretch but should any
product with silicones even be in the shop? That **** is so persistent
you never can get rid of it.

windscreens, etc. on aircraft. That I HAVE used on plastic and it does
a great job. Also a great job on painted metal. I think I still have
some left and I know I have a face shield that needs to be thrown away.
If I can find both I'll introduce them to each otherg

Haven't found the can yet, but haven't spent much time digging yet - nor
have you seen my garage and shop areag

What I did do is search on the product using Google and came up empty.
Could be that even if it does work, if you don't already have a can
you're out of luck. Still looking thoughg

Larry Jaques wrote:

bad news: the smell of the stuff never went away and I couldn't stand wearing
the sucker..


What do they use in it, buffalo snot?

Hell, shaving cream would have the same effect. It will keep the
mirrors in the bathroom fog-free. Downside is that it would probably
negate the effect of any anti-static spray. Sometimes, you just can't win.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:20:31 GMT, Unquestionably Confused
wrote:

To remove the scratches there should
be some microabrasive component to the Rain-X, no?

No, they do it the other way - there's a gap-filling aspect to it that
will infill the finer scratches and make them disappear optically,
rather than physically.

Also the ingredients are two kinds of alcohol and siloxyate (Sp?) Could
this be a dreaded silicone act alike?

Yes. I'd never let Rain-X anywhere near the workshop.

I'd also not use it on my car. I did use it once, and it worked
pretty well. Then it started to wear and the streaking was _awful_.
Once you've used it once, you really have to keep up using it. You
can't stop, and you can't clean it off.

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:20:31 GMT, the inscrutable Unquestionably
Confused spake:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Rain-X is also used on aircraft windshields, so I'm sure it's OK.
I polished my computer and reading glasses with it and the polycarb
lenses on both are fine.

Okay as far as damaging the poly but I was more concerned that the
Rain-X would do nothing to remove the smaller scratches you referenced.
I took a look at the Rain-X bottle I have and this not billed as a
cleaner but rather a topping after you have the windshield scrupuously
cleaned with other chemicals, etc. To remove the scratches there should
be some microabrasive component to the Rain-X, no?

Not necessarily. The film portion (left after wiping) fills in the
scratches so they pass instead of reflecting light. I was amazed at
how good my 14 year old windshield looked after the first application.
And I love the dance raindrops do on a freshly Rain-Xed windshield.
I'm on my 3rd bottle, and have bought the large size since finishing
the small one years ago. Good schtuff, Maynard.


Also the ingredients are two kinds of alcohol and siloxyate (Sp?) Could
this be a dreaded silicone act alike? It's a stretch but should any
product with silicones even be in the shop? That **** is so persistent
you never can get rid of it.

I believe it's an acrylic polymer coating, a plastic, with none of
those silly cones. That said, I'd use the pair of nitrile gloves I
keep with the Rain-X to buff the face shield.

The painter I used to work with used naphtha to remove any trace of
silicone from the cars before he painted them. You're probably
thinking ArmorAll, the bane of all it touches. The wash kid" at work
had it all over him, and he almost killed me once after he ArmorAlled
the steering wheel, gas and brake pedals in a car I had to test
drive. I got to the bottom of the driveway and my foot slipped right
off the brake pedal as I slid sideways into the street. Luckily no
trucks were coming by at the time. I just love that ArmorAll sh*t.
The kid was using ArmorAll right next to the paint shop one day and
Dennis nearly killed the guy when he saw that the job he'd just
prepped and sprayed was ruined by it. Dennis was the guy who knew his
paint gun so well that he could lay metalflake on metalflake and stand
the flake at just the right angle to match perfectly in full sunlight.
He was a true artist with a perfect eye for color, too.


Haven't found the can yet, but haven't spent much time digging yet - nor
have you seen my garage and shop areag

That's my current task in the shop: Finding countertops, benchtops,
and the bloody _floor_.


What I did do is search on the product using Google and came up empty.
Could be that even if it does work, if you don't already have a can
you're out of luck. Still looking thoughg

I found Davies Klear-to-Land, Plexus, Myles Supercoat, Diamondite,
303, LP Aero Plastics 210, and AeroShell Plexicoat, but no
"Slipstream".


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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:04:04 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

larry.. I used rain-ex anti fog on the inside of a face shield..

good news: It worked great and never fogged...

bad news: the smell of the stuff never went away and I couldn't stand wearing
the sucker..

What do they use in it, buffalo snot?

dunno, that might be better than that perfume/chemical smell..

BTW, the fog-x is great for bathroom mirrors, except that at my age, you WANT
them fogged up when you get out of the shower..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:22:59 -0700, mac davis
wrote:

BTW, the fog-x is great for bathroom mirrors, except that at my age, you WANT
them fogged up when you get out of the shower..

You need one of these
http://www.livejournal.com/users/que...34.html#cutid1

Andy Dingley wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 08:22:59 -0700, mac davis
wrote:


BTW, the fog-x is great for bathroom mirrors, except that at my age, you WANT
them fogged up when you get out of the shower..


You need one of these
http://www.livejournal.com/users/que...34.html#cutid1


Hmmm

Maybe a group order would be in order.


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Occasional Techno-geek

Andy Dingley wrote:

Yes. I'd never let Rain-X anywhere near the workshop.

I'd also not use it on my car. I did use it once, and it worked
pretty well. Then it started to wear and the streaking was _awful_.
Once you've used it once, you really have to keep up using it. You
can't stop, and you can't clean it off.

After you apply it, give it 30 min. to cure and then wipe gently with
pure ethanol. No more streaking. BTW, for those who have to scrape
frost from their windows on a regular basis, rain-x is brilliant.

Ken Muldrew

(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:20:31 GMT, the inscrutable Unquestionably
Confused spake:
Also the ingredients are two kinds of alcohol and siloxyate (Sp?) Could
this be a dreaded silicone act alike? It's a stretch but should any
product with silicones even be in the shop? That **** is so persistent
you never can get rid of it.

I believe it's an acrylic polymer coating, a plastic, with none of
those silly cones.

It's full of silicone oligomers. Best to keep it away from the wood.

Ken Muldrew

(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:17:01 GMT, the inscrutable
(Ken Muldrew) spake:

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:20:31 GMT, the inscrutable Unquestionably
Confused spake:
Also the ingredients are two kinds of alcohol and siloxyate (Sp?) Could
this be a dreaded silicone act alike? It's a stretch but should any
product with silicones even be in the shop? That **** is so persistent
you never can get rid of it.

I believe it's an acrylic polymer coating, a plastic, with none of
those silly cones.

It's full of silicone oligomers. Best to keep it away from the wood.

I would even if it had no silicone. Where did you find a chemical
breakdown for it? The msds had nothing but water, ethanols, and a
surfactant.


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